Brigette macron hits Emmanuel

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has anyone seen this on the news?! What do we all think, it’s all a bit bizarre

A tiny glimpse into their world. It must be exhausting for people to maintain the mask in public. I often think this applies to the Royals. Although it has slipped.

Did she come out and say it had been going on for a long time? I don't recall that?

If it was fake they wouldn’t have responded to the videos circulating.

It's not good for him on the world stage is it?

There must be lots of hideous "jokes" flying about.

I'm in my 70s and everyone I knew just thought he was a dirty old man and why wasn't her mother protecting her.

Politicians private lives should be just that, private. But to consider this incident a private matter and not mention it on the news is stretching privacy a bit far.

It accidentally played out in public the wife of the president shoving him with both hands - that merits a mention at the very least!

Which pre-pubscent children was she attracted to?

I've been married for 40 years and yes we've had rows but have never hit each other. Its not on to get physical because you're angry.

If you're referring to Bill Wyman and 13-year old Mandy - if I remember rightly her mother married Wyman's son, so no motherly protection there!

It's possible of course, but if that were the case and she was becoming unpredictable and prone to behaving aggressively or inappropriately, do you think he'd be allowing her to join him on official visits, knowing how it would look if she appeared befuddled on camera or said/did something wildly inappropriate?

We all know Joe Biden was doing it for years and it was painful to watch, but he was the actual president. If it had been his wife who was the embarrassing loose cannon she'd surely have been encouraged to stay at home.

If BM is behaving like this because of dementia then it's just going to fuel media discussion about how she's now a batty old lady while he's in his prime. I don't think he'd be doing anything that invites that if he can help it.

Well exactly. I don't understand people thinking it was normal back then.

I can only think people saying that she might have been wiping his mouth have only seen the still picture, because on the film it is a two handed shove in the face. I watched it with an open mind and was prepared (even happy) to be wrong, but it is clear, to me at least and it seems many others.

Or Macron’s acceptance that it wasn’t faked?

No, she's spoken about it since. She was going to nightclubs and mixing with these men when she was a child. It was so wrong.

2019 - not the same thing, of course, but some of you might want to over-analyse it.

I've never been interested in this couple before but, having just spent hours reading about them and scrolling acres of photos, they really do seem in love. Quite unusual for an 18-year marriage, and very rare for a high-profile couple.

And they have rows, as the whole world's now seen.

And she gets physically abusive. Funny sort of way to show your love. I suppose the old saying "love hurts" Is appropriate. No

Exactly - it really wasn’t. In fact Wyman (aged 52) married Mandy Smith when she was 18 to try to rehabilitate his public image, by which time she says he’d been having sex with her for over 4 years. It was a scandal; it was always a scandal. The tabloids loved it for tawdry purposes, because the public were genuinely sickened.

Mandy has since said she was already desolate and broken inside. She weighed 80lb on her wedding day. Eighty bloody pounds.

Why are people equating "having rows" with "shoving someone in the face with both hands", they are not part and parcel of the same thing. It's like we've gone back to the old days of "it's just a domestic" so if someone's getting assaulted it's OK because they're in a relationship? It's not OK.

She groomed him. Its a very disturbing relationship, and now she's seen hitting him. Awful. I hope he divorces her but I expect he's been conditioned for so long that he'll stay.

GarlicPile I have seen similar photos and clips of them together, but it's always Brigitte who is doing the "playful" hitting or telling him off for something. She seems to always be monitoring him and correcting him in an "exasperated controlling mother" tone. I think he was always her project and she likes to be in charge...

I think this is the ONLY possible explanation that their team could make to make this even half way understandable or recoverable form

my Dad had dementia, Lewy body..first thing that is lost with cognitive decline is inhibitions ..that includes physical restraint, emotional control etc. dad never raised his voice to anyone…ended up attacking staff at nursing home

and that’s not acceptable, it is just one of shitty things around dementia

but there is no other explanation that would make this half way understandle, excusable etc

but we also need to allow Macron the same consideration as we do to other victims of DV. he is likely to be in abuse cycle, with all the love bombing phases that mean he forgives, normalises etc. Hope, that little insidious emotion will mean he believes he can make it better. All the things that take everyone in this situation years and years to accept and step away form. He is no different. Worlds media and public saying he “should” do this or that won’t change. He is denying it is anything serious n same way as everyone in this situation does. He cannot accept he could be a victim. For a bloke , and a president to boot, that’ll be just as hard.

i hope that behind the scenes, someone is taking him aside and saying he needs support to remove himself form this . But maybe he’s still not ready o accept that. Maybe he will never be .

Standard fare for mumsnet. Yet again many posters saying he must have deserved it, or we’re all just misinterpreting it.

this happens every single time there is a thread regarding male victims of violence. Every single time.

I don’t see you on any threads where a man has hit a woman speculating on what she has done to deserve it.

Wow
so as long as a woman victim of dv carries on doing her job well there is nothing wrong?

Abused men (on here)