Brigette macron hits Emmanuel

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has anyone seen this on the news?! What do we all think, it’s all a bit bizarre

The wealthy French can be just as buttoned up as those in the UK. They don't generally allow displays of anger like this at all just on the basis that they are French.

Besides it's not about culture it's about violence and that's never ok. People excuse honour killings and FGM under the same guise as culture too, you think that is ok?

I can’t believe some posters are minimising it ! It’s been an abusive relationship since she started grooming him when he was a 15 year old school boy ! !

I'm a little sickened by the double standards and victim blaming on this thread.

If the situation was reversed would people be asking

"what did she do to provoke him?"

Me too. So much of it, it's awful.

The whole relationship is creepy AF, he needs to leave her.

The minimising is awful. You can see from the body language of the young woman in the hi-vis jacket that she has witnessed something that made her feel deeply uncomfortable, not two people messing about or someone wiping someone's mouth or whatever.

I also think it's awful to say it's ok as long as he's doing a good job as president. He's still a person and if this abuse is ramping up, I'm sure it will affect his work anyway. He looks deeply uncomfortable and unhappy in the clip.

Thanks. That is interesting.

I hate this conspiracy nonsense whenever anything comes up in the news there’s always vague posts about this kind of thing, when it’s clearly not happening, when you search just macron on google, instagram etc that’s the first thing that comes up nothing more specific needed.

The “oh we’ll never know” and “it’s up to interpretation” crowd reminds me of a horrific child sex abuse case we had in Scotland.

14 year old girl abused in her bed by her father. She tells her mother who doesn’t believe her/doesn’t care. Clever girls decides to leave her laptop open facing her bed with the camera on to capture evidence of the abuse.

She takes the footage to the police and the case goes to court. Her Dad is found not guilty. The prosecution asked the jury why they chose not guilty and they said in the footage the girl didn’t looks sad enough, traumatised enough. She wasn’t screaming or crying.

So despite seeing him come into her room in the dead of night. Climb under her duvet and on top of her body and start thrusting. They went with not guilty because they expected a girl who’d been abused for years and never believed to be screaming and sobbing during the abuse.

This is a video of domestic abuse. You don’t need further context. You need working eyes and that’s it.

considering how their "relationship" started it wouldn't be a surprise that she is also abusive disgusting woman

How come it wasn’t statutory rape if she was 14 - as she’s not old enough to consent. And also incest?

Same. And posters who are appalled by it are accused of being Russian bots because apparently that's preferable to showing compassion and sympathy to a man.

considering she's been sleeping with him and grooming him since he was 15, so much so his family moved him away and asked her to leave him alone and she refused, its much ore than just an age gap and controlling

she is a disgusting, pedo groomer and the overall minimising of this on the world stage because he married her is bizarre

If the situation was reversed would people be asking
"what did she do to provoke him?"

Actually thinking about it further @Chiseltip then yes a few probably would. On every thread about a celebrity man being suspended due to wrongdoing, which is usually sexual harassment at the very least there are always some posters at pains to point out that they still like him, don't feel what he said/did was that bad.

I think some people are just desperate to see themselves as edgy. Even yesterday we were accused of being pearl clutches by some on here 🙄.

I hate the term "pearl clutcher". It's used a lot on here against women.

I dont like all the if if if.

The fact is difficult to face that people are violent against other people. It is not only M on F.

The fact also remains that 1 woman a week is killed by a man in the UK alone, and there just isn't an equivalent problem F killing M.

Statistically you’re absolutely correct. Male on female violence is much larger than the other way round.

that doesnt mean when there is a case of female on male, the victim can be ignored or blamed just because it’s rarer

They didn’t believe she saw being raped because she wasn’t crying or screaming. They thought he was a loving father just coming into his daughter’s bed for a cuddle.

In the jury’s eyes if it had been rape she’d have looked more visibly distressed.

So do I. It's used to shut women up in the same way as #BeKind.

Regarding F on M violence, this case caught my eye recently. It appears that both parties were abusive. The woman was convicted and sentenced to 12 years.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj09zvmjmr8o

No, there isn't as prevalent a problem with F on M abuse and murder, for several reasons. Men are more likely to be violent, more likely to be sexually aggressive, and tend to have a physical advantage so if they do attack it's more likely to end in death/for the woman to be unable to fight them off.

But murder isn't the only kind of abuse and it's well known there can be long-term psychologically coercive situations, especially when someone has been groomed as a child or been in a relationship from a very young age with someone older / in a position of power.

Yes what she did to him in that clip isn't endangering his life, and women do need particular protections because they are at greater risk.

But, whatever kind of abuse it is, if you are that man you shouldn't have to put up with it being minimised or feel ashamed to "admit" what's happening. He should be supported to leave like anyone else - and if it turned out to be two-way, so should she.

Oh! I see what you mean. Beyond grim. Poor, poor child.

You would be shocked at what some people secretly think is OK that they wouldn't admit to publicly. When I told mil at 40 that my mum beat me as a child, she said I must have deserved it. I was 3 when it started.

However if I had punched and kicked her granddaughter I'd assume there was nothing the child could do to deserve that. Same for a child abuser I distantly know. His mum defended him but I assume she wouldn't think her kin deserved to be sexaully assaulted.

Ie it's OK if it's not you or your loved ones. Therefore widely in society people think it's OK with that logic. Mil is also supportive of bil leaving his wife and toddlers for a new wife. I do wonder if you asked her to now reflect when fil left her if she now reflects that his desires was valid like bil.

That's the problem I guess. People can't imagine being the victim or how the victims family feel. More "I'm alright so I will just sit back"

Not everyone of course. But a worrying amount

@ZoggyStirdust totally agree , really makes me worry about how many women think it’s acceptable to physically abuse their male partners.

And the posts that gloss over the age of the child at the start.