Thread 24 Starmer -Casting the net wider

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Don't forget his statement "Suella excites me" 🤑

Agree.

I think it’s just a game to him.

🤢

Brexit has caused severe damage to this country

Not everyone agrees though.

And even if you calmly produce statistics that Brexiteers accept showing this damage, they then move the goalposts and say "Yes, but it was worth it".

And so the cycle believes.

Remember, there are genuinely some folk who despair over the repeal of the corn laws. They are a tiny tiny majority of those that originally opposed it.

In 100 years time you will still find someone who supports/supported Brexit.

And frankly the corn laws are positively contemporary when you consider there are some folk who bemoan the abdication of James II.

Yes it’s like the whole “but he got the vaccines” all over again.

As if 1 positive means 1000 negatives no longer have any effect.

Lo and behold expecting 1001 positives or even settling on 900 as a compromise.

Equally, the "Jocasta" quips, posts that include these sentiments are strictly speaking, meaningless as they are not depicting the actual, state of affairs in the world; they are depicting a possible state of affairs that are not based upon the truth. Brexit has 'actually' caused hardship, we should reset our European partnerships with reasonable parameters because it is expedient, it is good for the economy, it is good for security, it is good for youth and it is good for everyone's prosperity!

The 'Jocasta' quips are cheap sneers from someone who should know better. Brexit has cost so much, including to the poorest, farmers and small businesses.

I predict a slew of anti-"AI" headlines in the Mail.

Tbh, I doubt the good faith of it.

Here's the latest on the Haworthia for tax - also anyone know what to do with it now?
I read the article about the ex-MPs and I think most of us could empathise about losing our job - it's a shock. I also understand how difficult it must be to have to sack your team. What I would love to know is whether they finally get that this has become the reality for employees and business owners everywhere and they must take a tiny bit of the responsibility for that.

Covid Inquiry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8nvl37zkdo

If the UK had spent more money helping people to self-isolate during the pandemic then fewer people would have been infected or died, the former head of NHS Test and Trace has said.

Baroness Dido Harding, who was in charge of the programme in England, told the Covid inquiry she repeatedly argued to increase financial support, but was "frustrated" by the response of then chancellor, Rishi Sunak.

"There was an intransigence that I think was very sad," she said in her evidence.

https://www.thepoke.com/2025/05/28/nigel-farage-challenged-keir-starmer-to-a-debate-in-a-working-mens-club/

I just heard something unbelievable on the radio. Gove interviewed on today’s house building announcement said that him giving this government advice would be like the navigator of the Titanic advising the captain of another liner. Why weren’t they as honest as this in government?

He now has his cosy seat in the HoL

Indeed. It’s still sufficiently unexpected to make me almost rear end the car in front!

Prosecutors in the UK have confirmed for the first time they have authorised 21 charges against Andrew and Tristan Tate, including rape, actual bodily harm and human trafficking.

Gove cannot help himself. He is one of those people who simply cannot resist pulling the curtain backwards occasionally. Tracy Ulliman does a great impersonation of him

His editorial policy of the Spectator mostly heads in the other direction of absolute cackling insincerity. It’s like a comic

Good.

Michael Gove, Trust Exercise

www.tiktok.com/@the_happy_hour__/video/7252727660982390043

Remember that half price McDonalds subsidised out of the public purse came before the belated support for self-isolating.

Reeves outlines plan for £25bn pension 'megafunds'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrn0rz2dpgo

The government has fleshed out its plans for reforming the UK pension industry, including the creation of £25bn "megafunds" which will be instructed to make a portion of their investments locally to help fuel economic growth.
The chancellor said the overhaul, designed to follow the example of Australia and Canada's huge pension investment funds, would also boost people's pension pots.

That’s really good news.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/29/first-new-reservoirs-in-england-for-more-that-30-years-given-go-ahead

The government has ordered the building of two reservoirs, the first to be built in England for more than 30 years.

The lack of reservoir capacity, combined with a rising population and drier summers caused by climate breakdown, has put the country at risk of water shortages. The government warned in recent weeks of an impending drought if there was not significant rainfall soon, and reservoirs have been reaching worryingly low levels.

The environment minister, Steve Reed, has awarded the status of “nationally significant” to two new reservoir projects in East Anglia and Lincolnshire and ordered that they go ahead. These will be the first to be built since 1992.

Oh, is there a water shortage ? Sorry I didn't realise.

Of course most Brummies are OK for water thanks to some city elders (we know it's fathers, really) planning for the centuries last century. Our own Welsh reservoir, currently at (checks) 93.1% full.

You do wonder why the BBC forgot to mention that amidst all the doom and gloom. A cynic might believe they don't want to highlight a perfect investment in infrastructure that has delivered for the people with little drama.

Forget HS2. If the UK wanted to invest, a N/S mega pipe (or canal) would be an idea.

People do know that the history of civilisation is the history of water management, don't they ? Nobody doesn't know that, surely ?

Victoria Atkins was quick to blame it on immigrants and farmers, at least she didn't mention flooding.