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Labour isn't working - Thread 3

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TheNuthatch · 12/05/2025 15:45

A thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

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derxa · 22/05/2025 22:32

EasternStandard · 22/05/2025 22:08

Just reading about this there’s no way schools can cover a gap.

And Chagos costs are shockingly high. What a mistake.

The whole thing is baffling.

TheNuthatch · 22/05/2025 22:49

According to Starmer, if you oppose the Chagos 'deal', you are in the same column as Russia, China and Iran. 🙄 W⚓️

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EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 06:50

TheNuthatch · 22/05/2025 22:49

According to Starmer, if you oppose the Chagos 'deal', you are in the same column as Russia, China and Iran. 🙄 W⚓️

Could he try to lose support more than this. No wonder so many can’t stand him.

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Mypinkchequebookholder · 23/05/2025 06:56

EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 06:50

Could he try to lose support more than this. No wonder so many can’t stand him.

I'm beginning to have severe doubts about his mental capacities - he seems on self-destruct to me.

I used to have a lot of time for Putin - no brickbats please ! Whenever he used to speak he sounded fair, intelligent, balanced and reasonable. Then all of a sudden he attacked Ukraine. It was as if someone had put something in his tea.

Is there some virus that attacks people in "high places" I wonder ??

EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 07:05

It’s bizarre. Perhaps he feels the public is something to beat like in court. Forgetting he and his party actually need votes.

What a ridiculous statement that will just rile people more.

Liker · 23/05/2025 07:28

Just watching Sky News and they reported on Labour's pledge to cut NHS waiting times. The reporter had to put in a FOI to get the true data, turns out it's all smoke and mirrors.

It's also on Sky News's website:

Keir Starmer made slashing NHS waiting times one of his priorities, and his Labour government has already claimed it as one of its biggest achievements so far. But new data tells a different story - and the public aren't noticing an improvement.

"The target was never particularly ambitious," says the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) about Labour's plan to add two million extra NHS appointments during their first year in power.
In February, Health Secretary Wes Streeting announced they had achieved the feat early. He recently described the now 3.6m additional appointments achieved in their first eight months as a "massive increase".

But new data, obtained by independent fact checking charity Full Fact and shared exclusively with Sky News, reveals this figure actually signalled a slowing down in new NHS activity.
There was an even larger rise of 4.2m extra appointments over the same period the year before, under Rishi Sunak's government.

Parsley1234 · 23/05/2025 07:54

I will never forget how mild mannered Sunak completely lost it during the debates with Starmer last year. That was a sign he knew Starmer was an imbecile but no one could have predicted just how destructive he could be. Heaven to god if we get Rayner this is going to look like a walk in the park. On a lighter note saw Caberet last night it was sooooo slick on a miserable note still arguing with my love Mr Bear Horse we may need counselling 🤣🤣🤣

Boohoo76 · 23/05/2025 08:02

So now Rayner wants to reduce entitlement to child benefit back to where it was before Hunt increased the threshold. The woman has no idea, if she becomes prime minister we are seriously fucked.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/05/2025 08:07

Hang on, I thought they wanted to remove the third child cap? So why are they reducing the threshold? it doesn't make sense to me.

Parsley1234 · 23/05/2025 08:16

None of it makes sense because we have a low educated front bench who have no idea with no business acumen between them.

EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 08:58

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/05/2025 08:07

Hang on, I thought they wanted to remove the third child cap? So why are they reducing the threshold? it doesn't make sense to me.

Rayner would like lower income families to have more dc but not mc families?

So more for lower earners but strip from middle.

Liker · 23/05/2025 08:58

Parsley1234 · 23/05/2025 08:16

None of it makes sense because we have a low educated front bench who have no idea with no business acumen between them.

Yes Parsley - 100% agree.

twistyizzy · 23/05/2025 09:10

EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 08:58

Rayner would like lower income families to have more dc but not mc families?

So more for lower earners but strip from middle.

Middle earners + mc are seen only as cash cows for rest of society

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/05/2025 09:10

I suppose.

Making it financially beneficial to have more children on a lower income will only worsen the benefit trap for women.

TheNuthatch · 23/05/2025 10:02

Good Morning, lots to catch up on and moan about.
@Liker I watched that on Sky this morning. How many times have they boasted about that! Liars.
@Parsley1234 Caberet! Hope you enjoyed it. Agree with you about the calibre of the cabinet. Madhatters tea party springs to mind.

More 'leaks' from Rayner too. Perhaps they want to abolish the 2 child cap to bring the backbenchers back in line, whilst simultaneously taking CB from middle earners?

I'm furious about Chagos. The costs don't even add up as they don't take inflation into account. It's seems the #bekind brigade don't give a shit about the Chagossian people. Starmer wants to blame the tories for a shit deal that he signed.

At least we're getting cheaper energy bills soon. Labour will want to take credit for the drop in wholesale gas prices.

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EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 10:06

TheNuthatch · 23/05/2025 10:02

Good Morning, lots to catch up on and moan about.
@Liker I watched that on Sky this morning. How many times have they boasted about that! Liars.
@Parsley1234 Caberet! Hope you enjoyed it. Agree with you about the calibre of the cabinet. Madhatters tea party springs to mind.

More 'leaks' from Rayner too. Perhaps they want to abolish the 2 child cap to bring the backbenchers back in line, whilst simultaneously taking CB from middle earners?

I'm furious about Chagos. The costs don't even add up as they don't take inflation into account. It's seems the #bekind brigade don't give a shit about the Chagossian people. Starmer wants to blame the tories for a shit deal that he signed.

At least we're getting cheaper energy bills soon. Labour will want to take credit for the drop in wholesale gas prices.

Liars indeed. I think the public are cottoning on to this more and more.

Mn feels like the last pro Starmer place going. If you look at other commentary it's a bit like opening the oven door after cooking a roast. Bam, it's not looking good for ol Starmer and co.

TheNuthatch · 23/05/2025 11:15

EasternStandard · 23/05/2025 10:06

Liars indeed. I think the public are cottoning on to this more and more.

Mn feels like the last pro Starmer place going. If you look at other commentary it's a bit like opening the oven door after cooking a roast. Bam, it's not looking good for ol Starmer and co.

Love the oven door analogy. It does feel like that elsewhere compared to MN.
Posters on this thread should consider themselves missionaries Grin

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Parsley1234 · 23/05/2025 11:48

@TheNuthatch god but the mad hatters were entertaining lol

Missrosie123 · 23/05/2025 20:12

I read the news every day and every day it gets worse. I can’t believe these people are running this country. I keep telling myself there is only so much damage they can do in a few years but then something new hits the headlines and the answer seems a lot! Never felt this defeated by any government before and the bar has been very low.

Parsley1234 · 23/05/2025 23:22

@Missrosie123 same same

TheNuthatch · 24/05/2025 08:42

Thank you. It is a shame, and Pennycook is clearly not a nice man. Reading that, there isn't a reason given for not using them. Where's the harm? They're not expensive, and can only do good imo.

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Mypinkchequebookholder · 24/05/2025 08:47

So Labour isn't a friend to wildlife?

Well. we knew that anyway with their plan to build on green belts and bankrupt famers.

TheNuthatch · 24/05/2025 09:11

@Mypinkchequebookholder
Hear hear.

As long as none of it is built near Ed Miliband's house of course, as his wife is a nimby.

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