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Mil laughing at DS1 being classed as a "disabled student"

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elliejjtiny · 12/05/2025 10:14

Ds1 has autism. He is academically able but struggles a lot with social and practical things. MIL and FIL have form for saying he had not got "proper autism" because he doesn't have learning disabilities. He is going to university to study his special interest and we have just found out he is going to get the support he needs from disabled student allowance.

It's been a huge weight off my mind that ds1 is going to get the support he needs and I didn't even have to fight for it. Ds1 is pleased too and naturally wanted to share the good news with his grandparents.

MIL just laughed at the fact that he is classed as a disabled student because in her opinion you only have a disability if you are unable to walk at all, completely blind/deaf or have severe learning disabilities.

OP posts:
Mistyglade · 12/05/2025 10:47

FiveShelties · 12/05/2025 10:42

I think you misunderstood.

No. Perhaps it is a hideous attitude but thats my experience of those who hold those views.

FiveShelties · 12/05/2025 10:52

Mistyglade · 12/05/2025 10:47

No. Perhaps it is a hideous attitude but thats my experience of those who hold those views.

But the poster was agreeing and saying OP's MIL's opinion was disgusting.

LIZS · 12/05/2025 10:52

Mil is ex primary school teacher and has never accepted that ds is dyspraxic. He also qualified for DSA and access arrangements and got a first.

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godmum56 · 12/05/2025 10:57

Springhassprungxx · 12/05/2025 10:33

Sorry but l agree with pp - my mum is late 70's and refuses to believe my sister has autism as it never used to be a thing. She isn't diafnosed but 100% is. Doesn't want to know if l ever broach the subject and it's not because she's in denial, she knows my sister has always struggled but sees it as a new thing almost like a fad. Reckons adhd is jist kids that have had too much sugar.
Obvs not all older people think like this but a majority of the ones l know do unfortunately.

and what percentage of all the over 70's in the world (or even in the UK) do you know? I am in my 70's and learned about autism at college. You can agree all you like but it doesn't make either of you right. OP, your Mil is a prejudiced ass, ignore her.

AubernFable · 12/05/2025 10:59

Mistyglade · 12/05/2025 10:16

That’s their generation. Does it matter what she thinks in the grand scheme of things?

My grandmother (90’s) worked with autistic children and children with learning disabilities her whole career, she is very well informed. I really doubt it’s ‘their generation’ and not just ignorance.

Soonenough · 12/05/2025 11:03

Let your DH deal with his mother . And explain it to his son .

NameChangedOfc · 12/05/2025 11:05

Chewbecca · 12/05/2025 10:23

Well I would agree it is their generation, the definition of disability has changed significantly over the last few decades to be much more inclusive so absolutely in their time, your DS would not have been considered disabled. It has nothing to do with their education.

Either way, your DS has the support he needs & is going to Uni to study his favourite subject - bloody marvellous.

I agree, yes

Beamur · 12/05/2025 11:07

I wouldn't talk about it with her. You know her attitude is rubbish and unlikely to change. Why annoys yourself by sharing? My DD is also autistic but I don't discuss her specific issues around this with other people. She deserves some privacy.

Nominative · 12/05/2025 11:07

Mistyglade · 12/05/2025 10:45

Well it may well be an attitude you find upsetting but you directed that word at me and I am discussing the issue at hand based on my own experiences of those who do hold those opinions, you’re attacking my point instead of making an informed argument. I don’t hold those views, I do however find that most people of the boomer generation do, your family are the exception in my mind.

I didn't direct any such word at you. I think you've mistaken which poster you are replying to.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 12/05/2025 11:09

MiL is unkind and ignorant. Even if she doesn’t her DGS as disabled, she should be glad he will get the help he needs.

LilDeVille · 12/05/2025 11:12

Mistyglade · 12/05/2025 10:47

No. Perhaps it is a hideous attitude but thats my experience of those who hold those views.

You definitely misunderstood. That poster was saying OP’s MIL’s attitude is disgusting. Which is blindingly obvious to most people on this thread.

Topseyt123 · 12/05/2025 11:16

She's pig ignorant. It's an appalling reaction from her. I'd be telling her that and would then just stop sharing any information with her.

What was your DS's reaction to this? Maybe he needs to realise that the more personal information he divulges to his grandparents the more he will open himself up to this sort of bollocks from them.

I wish your DS all the very best. He sounds like he is doing great and I hope he has a great time at university.

whitewineandsun · 12/05/2025 11:17

Chewbecca · 12/05/2025 10:23

Well I would agree it is their generation, the definition of disability has changed significantly over the last few decades to be much more inclusive so absolutely in their time, your DS would not have been considered disabled. It has nothing to do with their education.

Either way, your DS has the support he needs & is going to Uni to study his favourite subject - bloody marvellous.

Agree. Good luck to your son.

Babycote · 12/05/2025 11:23

I was officially a disabled student but I used to think this was also ridiculous and often laughed about it. I had a very specific and minor problem for which I needed an accommodation, but absolutely didn't identify as disabled. If someone had laughed at the idea of my being disabled I would have agreed completely!

Just my experience. 'Laughing about the idea of being disabled' is not necessarily ignorant, mean or rude.

Pedallleur · 12/05/2025 11:29

is she policing Blue Badges in the Aldi car park as well?

perpetualplatespinning · 12/05/2025 11:36

You shouldn’t have to, but since you are well aware of PIL’s attitudes and this isn’t the first time they have made their views known, you may want to be selective about what you/DC tell PIL in future.

Rhythmisadancer · 12/05/2025 11:36

can I ask what the DSA is going to help with? DD is similar, and I'm worried that uni is going to be quite overwhelming for her, but am struggling to think what might help!

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 12/05/2025 11:41

I suppose if you’ve got complex physical needs and you rely on others for any semblance of independence to see someone going to university living independently et cetera academically at a very high-level. It must seem a bit of a joke to class them as disabled. But that’s the way it is defined.

CrashSlapHurrah · 12/05/2025 11:41

Babycote · 12/05/2025 11:23

I was officially a disabled student but I used to think this was also ridiculous and often laughed about it. I had a very specific and minor problem for which I needed an accommodation, but absolutely didn't identify as disabled. If someone had laughed at the idea of my being disabled I would have agreed completely!

Just my experience. 'Laughing about the idea of being disabled' is not necessarily ignorant, mean or rude.

Anything which might impact a student's academic performance, even if that's dyslexia, is handled via the disability office for ease. I will get a regularly updated list from them of anyone in my modules who gets extra time in exams, who needs access to lecture recordings, who may have a scribe with them taking their lecture notes etc etc. Or who may have access needs, which has an impact on teaching rooms -- for instance, I had a student who had a bad accident during termtime and wasn't able to get to an upstairs room in an old part of campus, so Buildings prioritised finding a new room.

Applesonthelawn · 12/05/2025 11:48

As an autistic person who sounds similar to your DS and who is old enough to be the grandmother of a uni student, I can vouch for the fact that it is not really a generational thing - just an ignorance thing.

leticiajones88 · 12/05/2025 11:51

my dd2 is diagnosed with ASD and my mil is in her 60s, she is very aware of what ASD is and supports my daughter however she needs, she knows sometimes she can’t do things or she will do things differently.
it isn’t an age thing, it’s an education thing and whether they can tolerate it in their minds.

MyDeftDuck · 12/05/2025 11:53

MrsKeats · 12/05/2025 10:20

It’s not ‘their generation’. Please let’s not add ageism to the mix. It’s uneducated people.

This.
Many of us of the older generation do understand OP. Hope you DS has a fabulous experience at university .

WonderfulSunset · 12/05/2025 11:56

The definition of Autistic has changed drastically over the last few decades with it now encompassing far more people who are not intellectually disabled. BBC did an interesting article on this recently
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgp08z3egno
With approx 25% of the UK population now being classed as disabled there are varying levels of disability within that group.
I should imagine a lot of people would struggle to believe all of this group should be given extra support/time in exams etc at Uni. It should be appropriate to their disability.

A composite image of Venessa Swaby and Ellie Middleton, both against plain grey backdrops. Ellie is wearing glasses, and both have neutral expressions

Are there more autistic people now?

Why is the number of autism diagnoses changing? And what does it mean for autistic people?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgp08z3egno

WitchesofPainswick · 12/05/2025 11:57

Why did you tell her? She's obviously got form. Just keep it private. There's no need for them to know.

RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 11:59

Like heck is it generational, it is sheer ignorance.

Excellent news for your son OP! Enjoy the win and ignore your plonker of a MIL.