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Sigh. Pope Leo’s first sermon…

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CurlewKate · 09/05/2025 19:32

“"A lack of faith is often tragically accompanied by the loss of meaning in life, the neglect of mercy, appalling violations of human dignity, the crisis of the family and so many other wounds that afflict our society,"

I don’t know why I expected anything different. Maybe because he likes Wordle?

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paulb2017 · 09/05/2025 22:25

notprincehamlet · 09/05/2025 20:02

George Michael said it first

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AlwaysFirst · 09/05/2025 22:25

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:23

They are ALLOWED to do it as much as they like. But the snowflakery and self-absorption in starting a thread to complain about the head of the Catholic Church not writing an ode to atheists in his first official speech is off the charts.

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So? Leave others to say what they like.

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:26

Littledidsheknow · 09/05/2025 22:23

I will say, in his holiness’s defence, that he did criticise JD Vance on X before becoming pope.

So he’s at least got that in his favour.

He'd better start offering goat sacrifices that JD doesn't swing by for a visit.

DreamTheMoors · 09/05/2025 22:26

The Pope is a White Sox fan and that’s good enough for me.
Plus, I heard he’s eaten hot dogs, and pizza, although those reports are unconfirmed.
I heard on the news that the cardinals are not allowed to have any ravioli during Conclave for fear of notes being passed inside them. That started in the mid 1500s, I think.
The Catholic Church sure can be stubborn.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/05/2025 22:27

I suppose it's a bit of a pipe (pope?) dream, but I would love him to say, 'Other faiths are available - or even faith of a more generic non-religious sort is acceptable, take your pick.'

I just don't like this idea that without religion we'd all be lurching from one opportunity to behave badly to the next.

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:27

AlwaysFirst · 09/05/2025 22:25

So? Leave others to say what they like.

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Why should I?

If others want to start carping, self-absorbed threads and piss on other people's parade on what is quite an important day for them, they're fair game to be criticised. Just like they did the pope.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 09/05/2025 22:27

Well, for starters, the Catholic church's Priests have seriously violated the human dignity of childen and shown no mercy then or thereafter.

OverlyLord · 09/05/2025 22:27

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/05/2025 22:27

I suppose it's a bit of a pipe (pope?) dream, but I would love him to say, 'Other faiths are available - or even faith of a more generic non-religious sort is acceptable, take your pick.'

I just don't like this idea that without religion we'd all be lurching from one opportunity to behave badly to the next.

Would you expect any other religious leader to say that or is it only reserved for the catholics?

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/05/2025 22:28

I would be happy if any religious leader said something like that.

FOJN · 09/05/2025 22:29

If you are an atheist then surely the Pope is just a man in a costume and his words have no meaning or impact on your life. Why are you taking it so personally?

You do you and leave others to their faith.

AlwaysFirst · 09/05/2025 22:29

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:27

Why should I?

If others want to start carping, self-absorbed threads and piss on other people's parade on what is quite an important day for them, they're fair game to be criticised. Just like they did the pope.

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Then as I said, get involved in the discussions, but you’re not going to shut people down.

FridayFeelingmidweek · 09/05/2025 22:29

CurlewKate · 09/05/2025 19:32

“"A lack of faith is often tragically accompanied by the loss of meaning in life, the neglect of mercy, appalling violations of human dignity, the crisis of the family and so many other wounds that afflict our society,"

I don’t know why I expected anything different. Maybe because he likes Wordle?

I think what he meant was:

"A faith of Catholicism is often tragically accompanied by the neglect of equal treatment towards women and homosexuals ,appalling violations of human dignity especially towards children whom some members of the Catholic church have inhumanely abused, the crisis of the family as so many women are forced to have children they would rather sensibly have aborted and so many other wounds that afflict our society via Catholicism,"

Turning the mirror on themselves would be a good start. Change starts at home.

Arlanymor · 09/05/2025 22:30

EmpressOfTheThread · 09/05/2025 22:19

Thank. You. 👏

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It's in all of our faces. I think it's rank hypocrisy when it's the top news story of the day and you somehow expect others not to be allowed to express an opinion. You know that is unreasonable and unfair surely? If I am being nice I would say naïve... how are we expected to leave 'you' alone when it's literally the top news story? Should we all shut up? Pretend it's not happening?

Which if it comes down to it... this aligns with the core issue at the heart of the Catholic Church. Guilt, secrecy... it's part of the faith. I am not having a go at the religion, but the notion that people can't have a negative view on it is absurd.

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:30

AlwaysFirst · 09/05/2025 22:29

Then as I said, get involved in the discussions, but you’re not going to shut people down.

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I'm well aware I'm not likely to shut such tedious, disrespectful types down, more's the pity.

Sweetsummerchild2 · 09/05/2025 22:30

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 09/05/2025 22:27

Well, for starters, the Catholic church's Priests have seriously violated the human dignity of childen and shown no mercy then or thereafter.

Yup they really are not in a position to lecture.

Darkgreendarkbark · 09/05/2025 22:30

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/05/2025 22:27

I suppose it's a bit of a pipe (pope?) dream, but I would love him to say, 'Other faiths are available - or even faith of a more generic non-religious sort is acceptable, take your pick.'

I just don't like this idea that without religion we'd all be lurching from one opportunity to behave badly to the next.

But why do you need him to say that? What's wrong with people expressing their own beliefs, and you making your own mind up? You don't need his permission.

OverlyLord · 09/05/2025 22:31

Sweetsummerchild2 · 09/05/2025 22:30

Yup they really are not in a position to lecture.

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And other religions are?!

AlwaysFirst · 09/05/2025 22:31

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:30

I'm well aware I'm not likely to shut such tedious, disrespectful types down, more's the pity.

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It’s not disrespectful to discuss this or have differing views. You just don’t like them, that’s not the same thing.

Stressmode · 09/05/2025 22:31

He is what he is… utterly irrelevant to anyone who isn’t a Roman Catholic. Being a Roman Catholic is a choice.

DragonRunor · 09/05/2025 22:32

OxfordInkling · 09/05/2025 19:36

And he’s correct.

Well no, he’s not. Lots of people with no faith still find great meaning in their lives, and are happy contributing members of their society. Lots of people of faith still do stuff we’d all prefer they wouldn’t, up to and including child abuse and international terrorism.

Faith isn’t a good predictor of those things, even though the Pope might wish it was

godmum56 · 09/05/2025 22:33

Araminta1003 · 09/05/2025 19:48

You don’t need to believe in communion with Christ to believe in the greater good of humanity, at an essential level. A lot of people are lost souls, that’s a fact.

that assumes that they have souls?

Butchyrestingface · 09/05/2025 22:33

AlwaysFirst · 09/05/2025 22:31

It’s not disrespectful to discuss this or have differing views. You just don’t like them, that’s not the same thing.

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It's not about having differing views. It's about, as I said in my initial post, that they can't give Catholics just ONE day to celebrate an important event without starting these goody, tedious, whiny threads. Couldn't it have waited a day or two?

The post about why didn't the pope extol the merits of other religions - I mean, really? I guess when you hate Catholics, everything they do is wrong.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/05/2025 22:34

Darkgreendarkbark · 09/05/2025 22:30

But why do you need him to say that? What's wrong with people expressing their own beliefs, and you making your own mind up? You don't need his permission.

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I think it would be a very powerful message from the Pope and would encourage his followers to see merit in other paths.

lifeonmars100 · 09/05/2025 22:34

He's hardly going to start belting out a medley of Abba hits is he? Seems pretty standard fare for a new pontiff and doubtless it will be a crowd pleaser

AthWat · 09/05/2025 22:37

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 09/05/2025 22:34

I think it would be a very powerful message from the Pope and would encourage his followers to see merit in other paths.

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He's the fucking Pope, for fuck's sake.

I mean obviously he's talking bollocks, but what in the name of Satan do you expect from the Pope?

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