New Pope

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Wow that was fast

I'm waiting to see what comes of the allegations

You may be waiting a long time, @SpidersAreShitheads
When churches - and that's many of them, not just the catholic one - have provably done whatever they can to hide abuse by even more junior clergy, what chance do you suppose there is of them properly investigating anything relating to the pope?

It's the secrecy, history & pomp. It attracts us all!😀 They have chosen him because he will stand up against Trump (or so they believe) He holds firm on many of Francis beliefs but with a foot in tradition. The powers to be believe he will keep both sides happy!! By for the most erudite and conservative catholic commentors his new Popeliness is a liberal and they are seeing trouble ahead...again. 😐 🙄😪☹️

Not too keen on Trump I take it!!!😂

I received Communion as did my friends and family so judge it as you wish. He was one of the new Deacons. Married ones. ( Can't remember the name as have brain fog) but definitely not Anglican. He is a practising Catholic married man with a family . It was beautiful.

Sorry you feel so much hatred. It's a pity you chose to spew it.

I'd say about 1.4 billion Catholics care. Are we all feeble minded hypocrites?

Well if the head of the Church of England and Head of State can have pomp, ceremony, holy oils, ermine robes, a crown, and a hoolie after (I suppose...) then so can his equivalent in the Vatican!

Good luck to you Bob, I think you'll do a fine job.

He doesn't need to stand up against Trump. All he needs to do is make his stance on a variety of topics known to the faithful, and the 60m+ US catholics will do it for him.

A deacon can perform the marriage rite but cannot say Mass or perform consecration of the bread and wine. If administering communion, the hosts would have been previously consecrated by a priest.

Deacons can also perform baptisms.

Perhaps your wedding did not occur in the context of a Mass? Or if it did, perhaps the priest said Mass and the deacon performed the marriage rite? (This would be unusual).

Married deacons are pretty much the norm, though some candidates are widowed or single. All the deacons who have served in my parish have been married or widowed. The character of their wives has been examined along with their own on the path to the diaconate.

He will also need to continue to rebuke Catholics who twist scripture or the teachings of the church to advance political ends JD Vance

I knew he reminded me of someone! 🙌

Religious institutions should always be held accountable for their actions and decisions they make.

That is not a reflection on people who follow the religion they represent.

Few people would in this day and age disagree with this and neither is it hatred to question religious institutions, religious leaders or the religion (or belief) itself

I see the In The Shoes OF The Fisherman Issue had been sorted out pronto in record time. Ref to oldies Sixties film with Anthony Quinn about Papal matterrs.

Does the Vatican stiil have the smoke coming up the chimney to signal when they decide after counting the votes?

Agree about the mandatory retirement age for Popes. Same should apply here in the UK to royalty

Not a Catholic but mich loved departed Mother was. So l do realise and rsepect what a big deal this is for the Catholic fan club.

I think it was a done deal weeks back.

To be honest

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In nomine Patris and all that jazz.
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Further to my last post.

Great film about Vatican Politicking.. Try and watch it

I see the In The Shoes OF The Fisherman Issue had been sorted out pronto in record time. Ref to oldies Sixties film with Anthony Quinn about Papal matterrs.

Does the Vatican stiil have the smoke coming up the chimney to signal when they decide after counting the votes?

Agree about the mandatory retirement age for Popes. Same should apply here in the UK to royalty

Not a Catholic but mich loved departed Mother was. So l do realise and rsepect what a big deal this is for the Catholic fan club.

I think it was a done deal weeks back.

To be honest

🕌🎇☑️

Excellent point but I'm not so sure. They are the very people who voted the orange one into office. At the end of the day. We will have to wait & see. Hopefully, he won't be as bad as the last his popeliness!!!

He had to change into ceremonial garb.

Hopefully this one will clean up the total secret mess of paedophiles and abuses within the Catholic Church, doubt it but we can but hope

The sacrament of marriage is between husband and wife so I would imagine a Deacon could officiate. Any confirmed Catholic can baptise a child. My understanding was a Deacon could not consecrate bread and wine into body and blood but could do the rest of the mass.

Yes - AFAIK you are right.

I've heard many a good sermon delivered by one of my parish deacons. Presiding over an entire Mass bar the consecration hasn't come up locally as a situation, but I believe this is something that happens in areas where priests are few and far between.

Yes, a deacon can do everything a priest can do apart from consecrate the bread and wine.
If the previous poster who was married by a deacon received Holy Communion at their marriage service this would have previously been consecrated by a priest.

If you're talking about well documented and evidenced actions and decisions, that's one thing, but insinuations and dark mutterings about 'well known facts', or whatever, fall short of that definition.

All the cardinals congratulate him as well apparently. There was a video from the vatican press office showing this and also showing him briefly praying in the Pauline chapel before going to get changed.
There was also a document that had to be signed with his papal name on.

I also wonder when they write their first speech and tried to google this unsuccessfully. They must prepare something just in case they are elected once they see that they and perhaps one other person are moving ahead in the votes. Otherwise how would they have time between the white smoke going up (which apparently goes up as soon as the vote is completed and the new pope has accepted the position) and appearing on the balcony to write their speech?

Also do we think every cardinal already knows what their papal name would be if they were ever to be elected pope? They must have thought about that in advance too. Otherwise they'd have a panic on, oops, I've been elected pope, need to be on the balcony in less than an hour and don't know what name to take, oh, I know I'll be Gregory (or whoever). And yet there's always an explanation by the pope later as to why he chose the name he did.

The room where they go to put on the Papal cassock is called the room of tears. Allegedly tears that come from the weight of being entrusted to lead over a billion souls. I imagine it takes some time to compose yourself and also to write the first address.

Trump likes to pontificate. He's about to find out that you can't out-pontificate the Pope, for whom pontificating is his actual job.😂