New Pope

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Wow that was fast

Apparently, there is an academic point as to whether that one was an actual conclave, or whether the first conclave took place immediately after it, new rules having been put in place, or whether they properly began in 1404 and so on 🤔

"The election occurred more than a year after the magistrates of Viterbo locked the cardinals in, reduced their rations to bread and water, and removed the roof of the Palazzo dei Papi di Viterbo where the election took place.

As a result of the length of the election, during which three of the twenty cardinal-electors died and one resigned, Gregory X promulgated the papal bull Ubi periculum on 7 July 1274, during the Second Council of Lyon, establishing the papal conclave, whose rules were based on the tactics employed against the cardinals in Viterbo. The first election held under those rules is sometimes viewed as the first conclave."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1268%E2%80%931271_papal_election

It’s like Knickerbokerglories. I always thought they were massive…when I was a kid. 😋
Our perception of time and size clearly distorted by our age and size

I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. He’s dedicated most of his life to missionary work with the poorest people in Peru.

His speech wasn't entirely in Italian. He switched to Spanish to thank those who had travelled from Peru. (Apparently he is fluent in both languages.)

Yes, Central Europe - very very catholic. There is a lot of the dark, sad and gloomy that is expected to honour the dead in general.

Quite often it's more than just that. Frequently - but not always - the phrase Lavender Mafia is used to imply that the individual has been involved in some kind of cover-up, either some type of gay "scandal", or even worse, the sexual abuse of young boys by the clergy.

As @Puzzledandpissedoff posted higher up on the thread, Prevost has been linked to previous allegations of cover-ups of both sexual assault on nuns, and the cover-up/inappropriate handling of a priest found guilty of sexual abuse.

Is it weird that I find him very good-looking? 😳

I'm a bit disappointed that the new pope has been selected so soon.

I thought Father Noel Furlong (Graham Norton) would have been ideal, in fact I understand that he had just put his house in London on the market in anticipation of moving to Rome.

I always wondered what had become of Joe 90

Interesting.
I understand the black, most people I know do this but only for the funeral except for spouses. I know many that stayed in black for a long while.

No one sends Christmas cards for the first Christmas after a family member dies

My family would frown I suppose if someone had a birthday party ( for example ) soon after. So I suppose there are elements still remaining but maybe I’m so used to it as the norm that I don’t notice.

Dark sad and gloomy though I don’t recognise. Interesting how ( areas maybe ) Central Europe is different.

Why would you 'accuse' someone of being homosexual? Even for a devout Catholic it's not a crime to be gay (they just say it's a sin to act on it).

Realistically, priests must surely all be gay or asexual. Otherwise, why would they do the job?

Er

because they chose to give their life to God

And just like that the most powerful American in the world becomes number two….poor Trump, he won’t like that at all.

Just pray hard we haven’t got a MAGA Papa.

He speaks four languages fluently and reads two others.

I believe this is a historic moment that could inspire many to convert to Catholicism

Go to any Catholic Church, it’s women that keep it running and are the majority of the congregation.

I don't understand.

What's more 'historic' about this than any other Papal election?

OK, he's the first American but that's hardly inspirational.

True, and no movement on that. Mind you, the Church of England only had its first woman priest in 1994, and the first female Bishop took office in 2015. So, it is not like other churches had female clergy for hundreds of years. At least it happened, I suppose.

One frustrating thing for those trying to push for female priesthood in the Catholic Church, is that there were people who joined the Catholic Church (in Britain) because they were disgruntled about the women priests being allowed in Anglicanism. Adding yet more to those against female priesthood.

Why?

LOL, not just me either then! 😆 I also remember things being much bigger than they are (from when I was a child!)

@Scottishgirl85
I know you’re an atheist but I’m amazed you didn’t know there aren’t any Catholic Priests….I know many an atheist but they all know this.
Did you not study any form of Religious Studies in school, or not spot the lack of female cardinals and bishops at the funeral. ( I know you’re an atheist but as you’re on here I’m guessing you saw the odd pic of the funeral )

Another white man, as I predicted, but he'll make Rome great again 😆

@myplace

Not quite.

The Catholic priest sexual abuse scandal has not been so much about priests abusing children as about homosexual priests acting out their homosexuality with teenagers and young adults.

The Lavender Mafia control the vocations offices, seminaries, and chanceries of many dioceses, right up to the office of the bishop. They function as gatekeepers, facilitating a culture of sexual immorality and a self-preserving protective network formed around that immorality. Anyone who objected to this mission is ostracised, rejected, or dismissed. Those complicit in the prevailing agenda are given preferential treatment

And so here we are with Robert Prevost as the new Pope.

one and a half billion Catholics in the world.

Not sure Trump will be happy.