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How do I find out why I went to SEN school.

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Youagain2025 · 08/05/2025 10:07

When i was a child 8 or maybe nine. I'm quite sure it was year 3? I jointed a school for children with moderate learning difficulties. I was not told why and I never questioned it. I feel like there's a big chunk that i don't know about myself. I'm not sure if things were done differently on the mid 80s like what would have been done to decide i needed to ho to a special needs school. I guess there were not ehcps back then ? I have read GP would have had records. Why would a GP have records about my schooling ? I read that i can ask for a SARS? But it said something about knowing the dates and what it is im looking for . I'm not even 100% on the dates. And I'm not sure how to word what I'm looking for.

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MusicMakesItAllBetter · 15/05/2025 12:29

Youagain2025 · 15/05/2025 07:06

With the quote you added i can't even remember what I was trying to say. Its written so badly. There,was a point to it but I can't remember what I was trying to say.

I think i was trying to say how I felt in a work situation. I'm just thinking them feelings are not normal.

It sounds like you could do with an assessment.

www.adhd-360.com/right-to-choose/

https://adhduk.co.uk/diagnosis-pathways/

https://www.clinical-partners.co.uk/nhs-services/right-to-choose

https://www.psicon.co.uk/nhs/patients

www.problemshared.net/resources/how-to-pick-your-right-to-choose-provider

Its all good 🙂

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Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 15/05/2025 12:33

Youagain2025 · 08/05/2025 11:39

I would feel silly contacting them and saying hey I went to your school 29 ish years ago can you tell me why I was there. It seems odd to me to do that.

You'd feel silly, but you want to know. Either JDI or be forever wondering! I don't understand the resistance.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 15/05/2025 12:35

BellissimoGecko · 14/05/2025 22:31

If you can’t work, OP, and with the things you have said in this post, it sounds as if there is something going on.

If you don’t work, how do you live? Where do you get money?

And yes, there is help available for adults with LDS or autism. Your gp will be able to help.

That is unnecessary!
OP has stated she has learning difficulties!
Shes trying to find out what they were called in those days
OP has been through a lot and has DC with SEN, which is possibly why she wants to know

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 15/05/2025 12:54

SallyDraperGetInHere · 09/05/2025 00:03

@Youagain2025 i just wanted to message to say hi 👋🏻 and to commend you for seeking out your past.

I have no credentials in this area, and other more experienced people have replied to you. But I just wanted to say I’m sorry that you have had to embark on this journey to uncover why you were removed from mainstream education. I have found some of the replies unempathetic, because you are sharing a very personal journey of discovery as to why you missed out on approx seven years of mainstream education, and you may have lost valuable opportunities because of that intervention.

You have been very open about what you do know, and what remains unexplained. I recall a boy who was in my class at school up to age 9, and one day we had a school party for him because he was going to a new school. I’ve no recollection of him having SEN; I do remember he was very tiny for his age, and the thinking in those days was that ‘different’ meant ‘special school.’ I am projecting perhaps, but I wonder are you wondering if your life would have turned out differently if patience and time were afforded you? Might you have had a different life if you’d had a chance to be with a different peer group?

I don’t get a sense of anger or resentment from your posts, but I notice you haven’t really referenced parents or siblings, so it sounds like you’re not surrounded by people who can answer, or perhaps you don’t feel you can ask.

I really just wanted to say you sound like a lovely and articulate person, and I hope you’ve had a good life. I am in Ireland and we have a shameful history of institutionalising people (children!) for such “misdemeanours” as ‘wandering’, ‘being an orphan’, and ‘slow’, and from here I have the uneasy feeling that your parents were encouraged to place you somewhere ‘more suitable’ when the reality may have been you were just a little girl who needed a little help, a little encouragement, and a little time 💖

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I love you 🫶🏻

Youagain2025 · 15/05/2025 13:08

Thank you . I want to it one step at a time though. Firstly I want to get my medical records and hopefully something from my education days. Then if I still feel I want to or it could be a thing then I will look at possible ASD/ADHD etc. Not just now though because I will throw myself of and get more confused.

forgot to add. I know that there are free tests on line. Obviously just screening type. But I can't find the ones that give free results. The ones I find are free to fill in and then for the actual results you have to pay. Amd add emails etc.

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donthaveaname · 15/05/2025 13:14

You’re doing great op!

Youagain2025 · 15/05/2025 13:24

uncomfortablydumb60 · 15/05/2025 12:35

That is unnecessary!
OP has stated she has learning difficulties!
Shes trying to find out what they were called in those days
OP has been through a lot and has DC with SEN, which is possibly why she wants to know

Thank you 💐

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MusicMakesItAllBetter · 15/05/2025 13:58

Youagain2025 · 15/05/2025 13:08

Thank you . I want to it one step at a time though. Firstly I want to get my medical records and hopefully something from my education days. Then if I still feel I want to or it could be a thing then I will look at possible ASD/ADHD etc. Not just now though because I will throw myself of and get more confused.

forgot to add. I know that there are free tests on line. Obviously just screening type. But I can't find the ones that give free results. The ones I find are free to fill in and then for the actual results you have to pay. Amd add emails etc.

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You can do the tests and get the results on any of the links I posted.
There's no obligation to sign up or anything 🙂

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 15/05/2025 14:07

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 15/05/2025 12:33

You'd feel silly, but you want to know. Either JDI or be forever wondering! I don't understand the resistance.

Apologies OP - I posted without having read all your posts or noticing how many pages of responses there had been. You want to know the details, understandable. I read it that you didn't believe you had any special needs therefore didn't understand why you went to a different school and that's not the case.

Youagain2025 · 15/05/2025 14:44

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 15/05/2025 13:58

You can do the tests and get the results on any of the links I posted.
There's no obligation to sign up or anything 🙂

The links seem to say. About right to choose and needing gp referral. Also its about ADHD. There's nothing about results etc. It seems to be a route i can choose if i decide to look into it.

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MusicMakesItAllBetter · 16/05/2025 08:24

Youagain2025 · 15/05/2025 14:44

The links seem to say. About right to choose and needing gp referral. Also its about ADHD. There's nothing about results etc. It seems to be a route i can choose if i decide to look into it.

Ok.
I did an online test and got results, all free.
Good luck, have a nice day

Youagain2025 · 16/05/2025 08:25

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 16/05/2025 08:24

Ok.
I did an online test and got results, all free.
Good luck, have a nice day

Oh I couldn't see them. Maybe I'm just being dopey i will look again.

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Youagain2025 · 16/05/2025 12:21

Once I hopefully get my medical records. Would it be put on my NHS app?

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MusicMakesItAllBetter · 16/05/2025 12:24

Youagain2025 · 16/05/2025 12:21

Once I hopefully get my medical records. Would it be put on my NHS app?

Not your full record.
My surgery receptionists helped me with my request when I asked for my full medical history. They printed it all off for me. Maybe yours will do the same

LIZS · 16/05/2025 15:46

No the nhs app is not yet comprehensive. They will photocopy any historical paper records.

Youagain2025 · 16/05/2025 15:48

LIZS · 16/05/2025 15:46

No the nhs app is not yet comprehensive. They will photocopy any historical paper records.

Oh so I will have it in actual paper ?

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LIZS · 16/05/2025 15:55

Probably , we had some on paper and some digitally scanned in from different healthcare providers.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 16/05/2025 22:58

Youagain2025 · 16/05/2025 15:48

Oh so I will have it in actual paper ?

Yes, sorry I didn't make it clear

eatreadsleeprepeat · 17/05/2025 19:51

Youagain2025 · 16/05/2025 08:25

Oh I couldn't see them. Maybe I'm just being dopey i will look again.

Not dopey, I have had the same experience. It must be very hard not to have family around to answer your questions. Good luck with getting answers.

Youagain2025 · 17/05/2025 21:04

eatreadsleeprepeat · 17/05/2025 19:51

Not dopey, I have had the same experience. It must be very hard not to have family around to answer your questions. Good luck with getting answers.

Thank you. If i don't find out at least I know i tried

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Emilyontmoor · 19/05/2025 10:17

Just to clarify that your GP may not have any record of why you were at a special school if it was as a result of a range of Specific Learning Difficulties. They would normally have been diagnosed by an Educational Psychologist. They always are now, but from other posters, then it could even just have been on the recommendation of the mainstream school. The only medical involvement that my family have had in diagnosing / coping with our SpLDs has been Ophthalmologists prescribing reading glasses that have been shown to help. That is unless you count the broken bones resulting from the lack of coordination, but then an orthopaedic surgeon commented that Dyspraxia had only been mentioned once in all his long training! We did wonder how many of the other broken bones he treated were actually the result of the same issues but also if the chances of the medical profession raising a red flag if someone was accident prone due to a lack of coordination were pretty remote.

This is a good overview of the range of learning difficulties www.dyslexia.uk.net/children/what-are-specific-learning-difficulties/

Youagain2025 · 19/05/2025 11:35

Emilyontmoor · 19/05/2025 10:17

Just to clarify that your GP may not have any record of why you were at a special school if it was as a result of a range of Specific Learning Difficulties. They would normally have been diagnosed by an Educational Psychologist. They always are now, but from other posters, then it could even just have been on the recommendation of the mainstream school. The only medical involvement that my family have had in diagnosing / coping with our SpLDs has been Ophthalmologists prescribing reading glasses that have been shown to help. That is unless you count the broken bones resulting from the lack of coordination, but then an orthopaedic surgeon commented that Dyspraxia had only been mentioned once in all his long training! We did wonder how many of the other broken bones he treated were actually the result of the same issues but also if the chances of the medical profession raising a red flag if someone was accident prone due to a lack of coordination were pretty remote.

This is a good overview of the range of learning difficulties www.dyslexia.uk.net/children/what-are-specific-learning-difficulties/

I thought something could be on gp records? I know its not 100% anything would be there its just a place to try.

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Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 19/05/2025 12:19

When we referred children to special schools for moderate learning difficulties, it is right that GPs were not usually involved. They didn't ever send representatives to meetings, not did the school nurse attend unless there was something medical involved. The referral route was through the Local Authority with an educational psychology report.

My father was head of a special school in the 1970s and he would visit the children and their parents himself and decide if they were a good fit. Quite often the children were just unhappy in their mainstream schools for a variety of reasons, or their behaviour was difficult. Sometimes it was because the mainstream schools were so rigid in their curriculum in those days, there was no support. Today schools are not like that. For example, asking for money for cookery which parents couldn't afford, or asking children to bring in washing for domestic science which parents were embarrassed about and refused. Sometimes they were being bullied and hated school.
These all had a knock on effect. The children were happy to go to a school which was more understanding and kind. The gentler approach suited many children in those days.

Mumofnarnia · 19/05/2025 22:13

Emilyontmoor · 19/05/2025 10:17

Just to clarify that your GP may not have any record of why you were at a special school if it was as a result of a range of Specific Learning Difficulties. They would normally have been diagnosed by an Educational Psychologist. They always are now, but from other posters, then it could even just have been on the recommendation of the mainstream school. The only medical involvement that my family have had in diagnosing / coping with our SpLDs has been Ophthalmologists prescribing reading glasses that have been shown to help. That is unless you count the broken bones resulting from the lack of coordination, but then an orthopaedic surgeon commented that Dyspraxia had only been mentioned once in all his long training! We did wonder how many of the other broken bones he treated were actually the result of the same issues but also if the chances of the medical profession raising a red flag if someone was accident prone due to a lack of coordination were pretty remote.

This is a good overview of the range of learning difficulties www.dyslexia.uk.net/children/what-are-specific-learning-difficulties/

Yes but an educational psychologist would normally write a report about their findings after assessing a child and the report would then be sent to the child’s health visitor, school and GP and anyone else who is directly involved with a child and their wellbeing. So it’s very likely that there will be something documented in the medical records. Even if it’s a recommendation by a mainstream school there would normally be some documentation of it somewhere which usually ends up finding it’s way into your medical records.

Mumofnarnia · 19/05/2025 22:18

Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 19/05/2025 12:19

When we referred children to special schools for moderate learning difficulties, it is right that GPs were not usually involved. They didn't ever send representatives to meetings, not did the school nurse attend unless there was something medical involved. The referral route was through the Local Authority with an educational psychology report.

My father was head of a special school in the 1970s and he would visit the children and their parents himself and decide if they were a good fit. Quite often the children were just unhappy in their mainstream schools for a variety of reasons, or their behaviour was difficult. Sometimes it was because the mainstream schools were so rigid in their curriculum in those days, there was no support. Today schools are not like that. For example, asking for money for cookery which parents couldn't afford, or asking children to bring in washing for domestic science which parents were embarrassed about and refused. Sometimes they were being bullied and hated school.
These all had a knock on effect. The children were happy to go to a school which was more understanding and kind. The gentler approach suited many children in those days.

Just because the GP’s were never directly involved, doesn’t mean that reports aren’t written and a copy of the report sent to the GP to be filed in the medical records.
As I have said before, I’ve worked in a doctors surgery and things like this, even from decades ago usually found their way into a patient’s medical records due to reports being written and sent to the GP, health visitor, social worker, school etc which then get filed into the child’s records. The difference is that GPs keep all your records from birth until you die whereas other services tend to destroy records after a certain period of time hence why people are suggesting the op writes to her GP