Idiotam habemus - Trumpum the Bigly XXX - Trump thread #143

[Spandauer]

No grey smoke necessary.

First 100 days have come and gone. Vance has killed the Pope, Musk is melting away and Trump's tariffs are on a slow boat to China.

Coming soon... Bigly's Birthday Parade. What could possibly go wrong?

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5315681-has-the-us-crossed-the-rubicon-trump-thread-142

Oh I’m sure bullshit Barbie will manage to squirm her way out of it.

Just so this doesn't get lost in their race to reach new depths

https://bsky.app/profile/youthlaw.bsky.social/post/3lprysxo2e22e

‘Bullshit Barbie’! What a perfect description. I love that! 😂

I’m weirdly obsessed with watching footage of her answering questions at press conferences, as she changes tack so quickly. She generally comes across as really polished, calm and confident, which I really like - please don’t judge me! Yet she switches from that calmness to being an attack dog in an instant.

Fair point, although he had started on him before the video. And it isn’t the first time. The NBC reporter gets that response regardless of the question.

I dunno, everytime she opens her mouth, she sounds thicker than the last time. When you think it can't possibly get any worse, she manages it.

I'd wonder how she got anywhere near government, then see and hear Trump and understand. He wants to be seen as clever, so surrounds himself with people stupider than he is, but as he is as thick as shit, they all need to be worse.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1925653511385035228/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1925653511385035228&currentTweetUser=atrupar

They are going to stop the drug companies importing wine and cars. That’ll learn them. Technically I think the context means that it’s the EU that will be not importing wine and cars but I’m not sure it makes more sense in context.

This bit is fascinating though ‘a little bit more because there’s so many more, you know it’s a bigger number.’ Thank god we’ve cleared that up Donald. Imagine if America had elected the guy that wasn’t always coherent.

Edit to add: good to know he’s mastered reception level maths though. More work needed on PSED & CLL.

And this sort of vengeful retaliation is why people are afraid to call out Trump's lies to his face. Even heads of state.

I'm not judging you, but I'm a bit baffled.

The switching gears is gaslighting, and the ease with which she does that, peppered with outright lies, is astonishing. If you were in a relationship with someone who acted that way it would be clear emotional abuse. There has to be something seriously psychologically wrong with her.

I agree. I have just watched a clip of her desperately trying to defend the completely incorrect information Trump gave when with the South African president about the crosses on the roadside.

She took a deep breath and then she lied lied lied, it was nauseating to watch.
Total gaslighting

Just to clarify, I like the way she presents herself initially (her calmness and her confidence). I agree with you that the way she switches gears is scary and worrying, and it’s not something I am praising.

That’s very likely! To be fair, I haven’t seen many clips of her yet.

I do think she’s an effective communicator. Clearly what comes out of her mouth is lies but she’s engaging, articulate and clearly intelligent. She’s exactly what you want from a chief propagandist.

Yes she is a chief propagandist

Karoline Leavitt truly is a piece of work. All of Drumpf's press secretaries have been unpleasant, rude and practised liars/gaslighters but so far she takes the biscuit. (I find her relative youth one of the most disturbing things about her)

Following this week's latest dump of depressing/outrageous lies and news (and watching @SerendipityJane's YT link above re AI's assessment of whether/how the US can overcome the descent into dictatorship) I believe even more that the US will never fully recover from Trump's damage. Even IF the mid-terms proceed and the Dems claw back some control it will take years and the divisions that already exist will only continue to grow so peaceful solutions seem like a pipe dream.

A pox on all their houses.

I thought we'd scraped the bottom of the barrel with McEnany, Trump's previous PressSec.. she was a piece of work, but that barrel had a hole in it, and we're going down further.

I said this on a previous thread, but I’ll repeat again - who thought we’d actually miss Sean Spicer?!

Another very good TRIP US today (recorded before the Harvard debacle).

Mooch is of the opinion that those in the inner circle have known about Biden’s cancer diagnosis for quite some time. The idea that a sitting President is not getting a full health screening on a regular basis doesn’t pass muster.

As he goes on to say, rightly I sadly think, the best thing Trump has going for him is the Democrats themselves.

At this rate their “circular firing squad” behaviour means they’re going to throw away the Midterms.

I know others disagreed when I raised it previously, as is absolutely their right to, but I agree that such advanced cancer is unlikely to have slipped through the very thorough health screening that a sitting president has.

It is well worth a listen, he cites the examples of Wilson, Roosevelt, Eisenhower and, to a lesser extent, Reagan as examples of the White House having form for not disclosing Presidential health issues.

Granted we’re in different times information wise, and as Katty Kay said if this speculation is true there will be a paper trail and someone will find it. Don’t bet against the Republicans finding it and sitting on it until it is at its most useful - just before Midterms/2028 election, or even just as a dead cat strategy to distract from a particularly big Trump disaster.

If it is indeed true, the best thing they could do right now is admit it and get it out in the open so that by 2026 it has blown over and is yesterdays news.

Yes. You’re unfortunately completely correct. He is holding the whole world to ransom. You’d think there’d be a diplomatic way out, though, stopping short of war, I mean.

As he goes on to say, rightly I sadly think, the best thing Trump has going for him is the Democrats themselves.

And with a different person in the White House at the moment, that might be true.

But with the person in the White House who is actually there, the best thing Trump has going for him is the failure of commentators to apply the same scrutiny to his health.

I mean, if Biden had been running against Nikki Haley or someone, then the commentary that health matters or total honesty matters could be true.

But it's all it's doing at the moment is demonstrating the totality of MAGA's grip on information conditions, that commentators now censure themselves and focus on the elephant shrew while entirely ignoring the elephant - to the extent it's actually vranyo.

Commentators need to find a way to talk about what's really going on with Trump's, and do so without sounding like they're going:
"You smell of poo!"
"No you smell of poo, so there!"

(Which is the usual technique of MAGA, and is why MAGA were trying to claim Biden was cognitivitely impaired even before the 2020 election: Trump was already showing distinct neurological symptoms even then)

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I agree with this. And she makes a lot more sense than Trump does! Although you could argue he’s also an effective communicator, as he uses these catchphrases (probably not of his own invention) that stick in voters’ minds and he really uses social media to his advantage.

Re the Biden health stuff, I do recommend watching the Jon Stewart clip I posted a page or so back. I think his points about saving this information for a book instead of reporting it, as reporters are theoretically supposed to do, are very valid.

I think it's fair to examine what happened and what was covered up, but I also think there's a real element of payback from mainstream media going on for having been fooled or manipulated by Biden and those around him. I don't blame them in some ways, but, interestingly, they're failing at the exact same thing again by not giving equal (or more, since he's currently president) weight to Trump's cognitive state and clear psychopathy.

He’s at it again!

Threatening 50% tariffs on the EU and 25% on Apple products not made in the USA.

No doubt more flooding of the zone to distract people from the news that Harvard are suing the administration and the widespread mocking of his mythical white genocide comments.

And something about the UK's use of wind power, I think?

I agree with you about the mocking. He's always even more awful than usual after he's made a complete idiot of himself.