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Idiotam habemus - Trumpum the Bigly XXX - Trump thread #143

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Spandauer · 03/05/2025 22:59

No grey smoke necessary.

First 100 days have come and gone. Vance has killed the Pope, Musk is melting away and Trump's tariffs are on a slow boat to China.

Coming soon... Bigly's Birthday Parade. What could possibly go wrong?

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Has the US crossed the Rubicon? - Trump thread #142 | Mumsnet

Here be dragons. Previous thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5307874-are-we-feeling-liberated-yet-trump-thread-141

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DuncinToffee · 23/05/2025 15:29

Who of those attending last night's Trump dinner, benefitted most from the Markets reaction to this tariff announcement?

RafaistheKingofClay · 23/05/2025 20:16

Is this going to be the return of Tim Apple?

Igotjelly · 23/05/2025 22:32

Oh yay, a big beautiful military parade 🤨

“I am proud to announce that we will be hosting a magnificent Parade to honor the United States Army’s 250th Birthday, on Saturday, June 14th, in Washington, D.C. For two and a half centuries, our brave soldiers have fought, bled, and died to keep us FREE, and now we will honor them with a wonderful Parade, one that is worthy of their service and sacrifice. Americans across the Nation are invited to attend. RSVP at america250.org/.”

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Fandango52 · 23/05/2025 22:49

Igotjelly · 23/05/2025 22:32

Oh yay, a big beautiful military parade 🤨

“I am proud to announce that we will be hosting a magnificent Parade to honor the United States Army’s 250th Birthday, on Saturday, June 14th, in Washington, D.C. For two and a half centuries, our brave soldiers have fought, bled, and died to keep us FREE, and now we will honor them with a wonderful Parade, one that is worthy of their service and sacrifice. Americans across the Nation are invited to attend. RSVP at america250.org/.”

A big, beautiful military parade… which just happens to coincide with his birthday. What a coincidence. His insecurity is mind-blowing.

PickAChew · 23/05/2025 23:15

Kim Donald Trump.

Igotjelly · 23/05/2025 23:30

Do we think he’ll ride atop a tank? Of course it would need to be a gold tank, only the best for the dear leader.

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 23:58

Igotjelly · 23/05/2025 10:18

I know others disagreed when I raised it previously, as is absolutely their right to, but I agree that such advanced cancer is unlikely to have slipped through the very thorough health screening that a sitting president has.

I don't know enough about Biden's cancer to comment on that, but I do know how quickly rampantly aggressive cancer can progress.😟

However it does cast doubt on the reliability and truthfulness of WH doctors.🤔 Is the current POTUS 6'2"? Does he weigh just 16 stone? Is Trump physically and cognitively healthy?

I've seen him. I've heard him. I've witnessed the damage he has done.

I'm not sure I trust WH doctors.🤨

MigsandTiggs · 24/05/2025 00:01

From BBC news discussion on Trump WH briefings. Not the traditional press pool.

  1. WH controls the press pool by including high % of pro Trump journalists and influencers
  2. Excludes many journalists they think are hostile
  3. Combative towards negative articles (ABC and CBS settled) so intimidates journalists
  4. Ensure journalists present who can be reliably called upon to ask questions that are favourable to the President (helps KL pivot).
Igotjelly · 24/05/2025 08:11

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2025 23:58

I don't know enough about Biden's cancer to comment on that, but I do know how quickly rampantly aggressive cancer can progress.😟

However it does cast doubt on the reliability and truthfulness of WH doctors.🤔 Is the current POTUS 6'2"? Does he weigh just 16 stone? Is Trump physically and cognitively healthy?

I've seen him. I've heard him. I've witnessed the damage he has done.

I'm not sure I trust WH doctors.🤨

Indeed! I think we can safely say anything coming from Trump’s doctor is likely to be bullshit of the highest order.

MigsandTiggs · 24/05/2025 08:29

This article provides greater context to Trump's 'we must have Greenland' comments.
The Artic can supply 'a trans-shipment port where three continents meet: North America, Europe and Asia' but the Norwegian rejection of Chinese investment in 'is pushing polar-hungry China - the biggest emerging superpower in the world - into the arms of the Arctic's largest player, Russia.'

"Russia needs investments and commercial actors who are interested in developing the Arctic - LNG [liquefied natural gas] resources, oil resources, or developing a northern sea route as a shipping lane.
"China is that market. The two countries are looking for ways to expand their political, economic, even military cooperation."

.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwqn7z02plo

Norwegians wheeling their bikes on their national day in Svalbard, with water and icy peaks in the distance

Tensions rise as China, Russia, US and Europe scramble for Arctic

As Arctic ice melts, global powers seize new opportunities to extract oil, speed up trade and boost their military presence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjwqn7z02plo

Serpentstooth · 24/05/2025 08:33

Obviously, General Bigly will need to steal a uniform from somewhere. Which Service has the most Goldy one? Or will it be Ruritanian bespoke?

Serpentstooth · 24/05/2025 08:34

And the medals! I forgot them. A chest full of undeserved medals, please.

CaveMum · 24/05/2025 09:21

Americans veterans (and serving military) are VERY sensitive about “stolen valour” - I can’t see it going down well if Trump turns up with a chest full of medals.

Also, how on earth are they going to spin the June date? I mean everyone in their right mind will be thinking “why not 4th July weekend” to, y’know, coincide with actual Independence Day?!

SerendipityJane · 24/05/2025 09:22

Seems buried in the Bigly Bill is an amendment to Federal Court procedures that would prevent a ruling against the administration if the plaintiffs do no lodge a bond with the court.

AKA "Selling Justice".

BustingBaoBun · 24/05/2025 09:38

CaveMum · 24/05/2025 09:21

Americans veterans (and serving military) are VERY sensitive about “stolen valour” - I can’t see it going down well if Trump turns up with a chest full of medals.

Also, how on earth are they going to spin the June date? I mean everyone in their right mind will be thinking “why not 4th July weekend” to, y’know, coincide with actual Independence Day?!

Absolutely. His family are not a family that serve their country.

Idiotam habemus - Trumpum the Bigly XXX - Trump thread #143
Spandauer · 24/05/2025 10:03

CaveMum · 24/05/2025 09:21

Americans veterans (and serving military) are VERY sensitive about “stolen valour” - I can’t see it going down well if Trump turns up with a chest full of medals.

Also, how on earth are they going to spin the June date? I mean everyone in their right mind will be thinking “why not 4th July weekend” to, y’know, coincide with actual Independence Day?!

Apparently June 14th is the 250th anniversary of the 'official' formation of the army in the US. So it's an unfortunate coincidence that it's also Drumpf's birthday. I presume Vance will wear whatever medals he picked up?

On June 14, 1775, the Second Continental Congress voted to establish the Continental Army.

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PerkingFaintly · 24/05/2025 10:21

'is pushing polar-hungry China - the biggest emerging superpower in the world - into the arms of the Arctic's largest player, Russia.'

That wording's a bit misleading, as it's more often said in a context where the country seeking collaborators is welcomed and even courted by the potential collaborators: "If we don't befriend them, they'll become friends with someone else."

But in this case, Norway declining a China collaboration will not improve Russia-China relations – because Russia and China are already in a longstanding, unavoidable relationship (a slightly tense one) dictated by their land border. Re the Arctic there's an additional factor that Russia is what geographically stands between China and the Arctic.

It's telling that China's preference of who to work with was the non-Russian Arctic countries. China wanted Norway to help it get an advantage over Russia, or at least to mitigate China's geographical disadvantage; and Norway has declined to help.

So yes, from the Russians' point of view, the refusal of Norway to sell to China does "drive them into our Russian arms"; but from everyone else's point of view, it's not going to make the relationship between Russia and China any more friendly. Those two countries are already as much frenemies as they want to be, each jockeying for position over the other.

Spandauer · 24/05/2025 11:52

Love the comments under that Bluesky post.
"Gulf of Yorkshire" 😂

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SerendipityJane · 24/05/2025 13:43

CaveMum · 24/05/2025 09:21

Americans veterans (and serving military) are VERY sensitive about “stolen valour” - I can’t see it going down well if Trump turns up with a chest full of medals.

Also, how on earth are they going to spin the June date? I mean everyone in their right mind will be thinking “why not 4th July weekend” to, y’know, coincide with actual Independence Day?!

Winston Churchill loved the dressing up box.

You can make a lot of money spotting the uniforms and medals he wasn't entitled to.

(And keep an eye on the royals too).

An officer friend in the RAF (won an award as OG "female engineer of the year award" 😀way back when) once told me that civilians saluting was a good marker of knobheads.

Wallaw · 24/05/2025 13:53

SerendipityJane · 24/05/2025 09:22

Seems buried in the Bigly Bill is an amendment to Federal Court procedures that would prevent a ruling against the administration if the plaintiffs do no lodge a bond with the court.

AKA "Selling Justice".

That's horrific. I hadn't seen that.

littledrummergirls · 24/05/2025 13:58

I keep reading that Harvard paid a $10 bond. This explains why I guess.

SerendipityJane · 24/05/2025 14:35

littledrummergirls · 24/05/2025 13:58

I keep reading that Harvard paid a $10 bond. This explains why I guess.

As I understand it, if the amendment passes then federal courts will not be allowed to issue an injunction if the plaintiff has not covered the consequential costs should the court subsequently rule in the defendants favour.

So in the case about the illegal deportations, the plaintiff (ACLU for example) would have to pay a few billion dollars into the court before an injunction can be ordered.

I won't need to read the detail to know that the amount to be paid is determined by .... the defendant.

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