How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Not directly but I have friends with trans kids, plus non-binery relatives. The main impact is having to be careful what I say, so as not to offend anyone. Although I shouldn’t be afraid of saying that I’m pleased with the Supreme Court ruling etc.

And where's the actual percentages of how prevalent this is?

Yes. My AuDhd son was groomed on the internet into believing he was trans between the ages of 13-18. We had no idea. A week after his 18th birthday the police raided my house and he was found to have been receiving and sharing illegal images. Guess which hentaii/trans/furry/glitter family started him off on that pathway? Clue, it was not me and his dad.

He has a 10y SHPO and doesn’t have a friend in the entire world. He can’t get a job, he’s absolutely miserable and’s border line suicidal . I do pretty much believe that his entire life will be like this despite him being just mid 20s as who on earth is going to give him a chance? He was such a good boy at school, got really excellent GCSE grades and at college too.

you can search me. I’ve posted before.

I really hate threads like this. I've had nothing but kindness from my trans friends, but I have been insulted in every way you could imagine by women on MN for daring to disagree with anti trans rhetoric.

For all the “Do you expect a trans identifying woman with facial hair use the ladies..?!” crowd, do you realise that people’s stature doesn’t change when you transition? Transmen look like small men and transwomen look like large women. They walk differently, have differently sized limbs etc. The (heavily filtered/altered) pictures you see online do not reflect realty. I was driving in the highlands recently and saw a transwoman walking on a country road. Clocked them in about 4 seconds. I have rubbish eyesight and was going at about 50 mph but STILL realised they were a man within seconds.

See earlier posts

Trans activists have brought this on themselves. Instead of engaging in open discussion and exploration, women with reservations about certain aspects of the issue have been vilified and basically told to shut up, put up or go fuck themselves - mostly by men (a proportion of which aren't even trans)! All of this vitriol has been directed at members of society who've had to fight with blood, sweat and tears for centuries for every meagre scrap of inherent rights or dignity and who are (and always will be) the victims of rape, violence and murder at the hands of men. Compassion and understanding is a two way street.

one of my trans male friends is nearly 6.5 feet tall. he also has big muscles and a heavy beard there’s absolutely no way you’d be able to tell he was trans from his stature.
and this is hardly a massive outlier, his ex was a similar height and build, as was one of his team mates on a football team

I have a disabled daughter. Care company have been unable to guarantee that, if a female support worker is needed for a particular service, the support worker with be actually female as opposed to a trans identifying male.

They also could not guarantee that a trans identifying male service user would be excluded from female specific accommodation. The t.i.m was allowed to do a presentation to other disabled service users explaining that he was now a woman. This upset and confused my daughter who was told that John was now Jane (he didn’t use Jane, he picked a name that sounded like it came from a porn star name generator) and he would be moving to the women’s accommodation when a place became vacant. Fortunately he moved on before a space came up.

Now, thanks is to the ruling, we know that the single sex provision in both support and accommodation will be for women only

we all have rights though and that includes the right to privacy and dignity in places where we get undressed or otherwise want single sex spaces. It’s not ok for women who identify as trans to violate men’s rights to privacy. Yes there might be less danger to them but still men are entitled to privacy

I haven't been affected directly, but have seen some effect of the law/ideology.

I exercise at a local leisure centre, which was built adjacent to a large secondary school ( pupils aged 12-18) The school use the leisure centre and pool as a PE department, as well as local community.
The female shower/changing rooms have been closed for almost a year now.
Some male pupils have been claiming their rights to use the female shower rooms as they claim to be transgender. Some of the boys are "real" transgender- (apologies for even saying that!), but they attend school wearing girls clothes, make up etc. but other boys have joined in and created a rumpus, barging into girls changing rooms while they change after swimming etc.
The school have been trying to walk a line and failed badly.
It is disruptive behaviour, but been dealt with too gently for fear of upsetting trans cohort.

Parents of the girls at the school have been understandably angry at the situation, and started removing the girls from PE lessons. The leisure centre responded by closing female changing completely- for students and community users- no showers, no private changing, It has been closed for 10 months, but I hope to see it open tomorrow.

@HangTheDJHangTheDJHangTheDJ I'm sorry. I wasn't sure where to post and think it's an important discussion to have.

What you said was that as people (I assume you mean biological women?) have been assaulted by women before too it's unhelpful and inflammatory to refer to cases of transwomen (eg men) raping or sexually assualting biological women. Do enlighten us all with the details of cases where a biological has been raped by another biological woman. You won't be able to as none exist so I stand by wondering if you're being disingenuous or are a transwoman.

No, never

I name changed specifically to answer this.
My son, over a period of three years was groomed and sexually abused by three adult trans women he met online. The depths of what he went through still keeps me up at night.
Beginning when he was 12, unbeknownst to me his dad let him use Reddit when he went there to chat to people about a game he was into. This spiralled from public online comments, to these people privately messaging him and the initial one introducing him to the others. At which point they paid for him to have a premium subscription to Discord and love bombed him by purchasing games for him etc.
I had no idea because he was not allowed to use any of these platforms in our home.
Over time the things they requested he did and wanted him to send escalated. Even typing this now I can’t actually wrap my head around it. When I downloaded all the data to give to the police, there were photos of him in my underwear that he’d been instructed to send, purely for the gratification of these people.
I discovered it by chance because he’d forgotten to delete an app (that they routinely told him to use and then uninstall) and a notification popped up when I was checking his phone. And a bomb went off.
I spent a full week trawling through every app and website he’d used (or at least the ones since he’d had that phone). And I mean a solid week. I did not sleep.
I read months and months of chats on Discord servers where trans identified adults had reached out to children through “shared interests” of games like Minecraft and Pokemon or anime and used this to groom them and break down their barriers, culminating in some of the worst things I’ve ever seen online. Violent, graphic porn shared and exchanged, emotional blackmail, threats to “out” them to their family and friends.
I only had access to a handful of the Discord servers and there were hundreds of children and teenagers there and dozens of “trans elders”, grooming, instructing, coaching…
I reported it to the police and CEOP. What has followed since has been a long process of therapy for him, and a steep learning curve for us as his parents.
I’m quite sure that there will be people on this thread who don’t want to see or acknowledge that this is actually endemic in the trans community. But it is. And you’d better believe that there’s nobody who spends more time researching this shit than a mother protecting her child.

In England and Wales, as of March 2021, there were 87 transgender women, who were legally male, in prison for at least one sexual offence. In total, 146 transgender women were in prisons across England and Wales, with 87 having a conviction for a sexual offense. This data includes prisoners with a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC). (AI Overview)

What, ones that don't even show the source and could have come from the daily mail or that ilk? The infragraphic that shows 0.19% of of the population (doesn't even say which population e.g. country) are trans sexual offenders?

No

I used to go out on the London lesbian scene. Nothing crazy, mostly social, discussion and spiritual groups, occasionally bars. Then from the 2010s onwards it became the case that in every group, which had until then been composed of women dressed nice and normally within the bounds of the sorts of things lesbians wore in those days (jeans, t shirts and short hair very often, but also a wide range of more alternative styles), there’d be a man with long hair, a dress, and a manner that was simultaneously simpering and sexually excited at being there, and who somehow took up al the space and oxygen in the room. It felt like one such was assigned to every group I was in, and it totally destroyed the dynamics. I dropped out of the lesbian scene and am a lot more isolated now.

Is it anti-trans rhetoric? Or is it anti-males in sex based spaces and sports rhetoric? Has anyone objected to trans men in their spaces?

Issue is as far as I’m aware we do not collect data according to gender identity.

so a crime committed by a transwoman will not be recorded as such.

it will either be included in male violence statistics, or as female violence.

same as the rates of violence against trans people. We don’t record it as such- victim is recorded as male or female.

perhaps if transgender organisations fought to have trans status recorded in crime stats they could present the real numbers in their defence. I suspect it wouldn’t aid their cause though- easier to just make claims like trans people are the most “as risk” group with no basis.

Your argument is that all people assigned female at birth are small, and all people assigned male at birth are tall/built, and that’s how you tell the difference?! Maybe we should have height charts next to single sex toilets- under six foot, you go in the ladies, over six foot you go in the men’s.

Im going to guess from the breathtaking ignorance of your post that you’ve never actually met a person who was trans, you’ve just seen what you took to be a trans person as you sped past them at 50mph….

Well said. A friend of mine has shared a Insta story from an influencer who says that transphobes say that transwomen don't have the same lived experiences as women but that also applies to black women and disabled women.

Black women and disabled woman ARE STILL WOMEN! It is such an offensive argument.

Trans male - does that mean observed female at birth? 6’5” is a massive outlier for a woman. It’s a pretty large outlier for a man too
And you may not be able to tell from stature but you can from hips and gait. You can spot sex just by watching someone walk.

So around 0.000145% if the UK population?