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Has the US crossed the Rubicon? - Trump thread #142

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Spandauer · 15/04/2025 18:42

Here be dragons.

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JoshLymanSwagger · 28/04/2025 14:23

@Llttledrummergirls Third rate? steady...at most fifth. Grin

Llttledrummergirls · 28/04/2025 14:28

I was trying to be polite. Thick as shit, arrogant fuckwit with illusions of grandeur would have been more in line with my thoughts. Grin

PerkingFaintly · 28/04/2025 14:41

Always a jolt to see the huge difference in tone of coverage when other BBC correspondents turn up in the US. I can usually spot when something hasn't come from their chief US correspondent Anthony Zurcher within a couple of lines

(I've no idea about Zurcher's personal beliefs, but he's a reliable parrot of Republican messaging – with a bit of token added both-sidesism.)

Anyway, interesting article from Faisal Islam, getting straight in there without a filter to protect delicate MAGA sensibilities.

There are signs Trump could be ready to retreat on tariffs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g45zp77y5o
[...]
It is true that there was far more relative calm at the end of the IMF Meetings compared to the beginning. Why? Because the US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has seized control of the tariff agenda and has almost single-handedly calmed markets and the rest of the world.

Financial diplomats put down the Bessent ascendancy and the critical 90 day pause in the so-called "reciprocal" tariffs to some farcical West Wing antics.

The story goes Bessent was able to get the ear of Trump regarding the bond market damage from his tariffs, only after a separate White House economic adviser managed to use the bait of a fake meeting to lure away the hardline tariff hawk and author of the infamous reciprocal tariff equation Pete Navarro from patrolling the Oval Office.
[...]
At best this sounds like the future of the world economy and all our livelihoods played out like a real time Hilary Mantel novel about the court of Trump.

Faisal Islam: Trump could be ready to retreat on tariffs

BBC economics editor Faisal Islam on what comes next for the US president's central economic policy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g45zp77y5o

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/04/2025 14:43

Spandauer · 28/04/2025 11:59

Canada voting today. 🇨🇦

Already, more than 7 million people have cast ballots in early voting – a 25% increase over the previous record, helped in large part by the Easter long weekend. The first polls close at 8.30pm Atlantic time, with seat-rich Québec and Ontario closing at 9.30pm eastern time, with results expected soon after.

This is existential for Canada. Let’s hope the hate coming up from the South hasn’t poisoned the water.

JoshLymanSwagger · 28/04/2025 14:48

Llttledrummergirls · 28/04/2025 14:28

I was trying to be polite. Thick as shit, arrogant fuckwit with illusions of grandeur would have been more in line with my thoughts. Grin

That's more like it. Grin

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 28/04/2025 16:39

Did you see what Trump posted on his Truth Social account about the Canadian elections, today? Yet again, words about this Mango Mussolini completely escape me.

Has the US crossed the Rubicon? - Trump thread #142
CaveMum · 28/04/2025 17:04

So, we are coming up on 100 Days of Trump 2.0.

554 days till Midterms (03/11/2026)
1,289 days till the 2028 election (07/11/2028)
1,363 days till Inauguration Day (20/01/2029)

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 28/04/2025 17:07

Somewhat more Presidential than that other one to the south, even though “only” a Prime Minister.
https://x.com/MarkJCarney/status/1916858226630345125/video/1

https://x.com/MarkJCarney/status/1916858226630345125/video/1

countrygirl99 · 28/04/2025 17:19

Tesco tried refusing price increases from some of their suppliers a couple of years back. They ended up with gaps on their shelves.

SerendipityJane · 28/04/2025 17:27

countrygirl99 · 28/04/2025 17:19

Tesco tried refusing price increases from some of their suppliers a couple of years back. They ended up with gaps on their shelves.

(Just to highlight that's a US piece)

The problem is all the suppliers will just add the tariffs - and if their contracts with Tesco haven't been written such that it's an automatic process, then they don't deserve to be in business.

Tax rates etc should always be managed as transient time related variables with the concept of tiers. Because that is how the real world works.

SerendipityJane · 28/04/2025 18:00

DuncinToffee · 28/04/2025 17:51

Fake news.

PickAChew · 28/04/2025 18:03

Let them play with Teslas.

countrygirl99 · 28/04/2025 18:03

The Tesco thing was raw material price rises after Russia invaded Ukraine but the same principal applies. I wonder if ghe customer is taking the piss or if the contracts are badly written. If it's badly written contracts renewal time could get interesting. With Tesco the suppliers just said "OK we won't supply you, we'll sell to other customers who are accepting price increases and you may lose your customers if they are brand concious"

JoshLymanSwagger · 28/04/2025 18:15

I don't suppose there's a picture of the Grinch crossed with the Donald somewhere?...Grin

logicisall · 28/04/2025 18:23

@SerendipityJane thanks for that link to semafor.com. All the articles are interesting and I had never heard of it before.

SerendipityJane · 28/04/2025 18:27

logicisall · 28/04/2025 18:23

@SerendipityJane thanks for that link to semafor.com. All the articles are interesting and I had never heard of it before.

When you work in smart buildings (as I am now doing) you need access to a lot of interesting tools.

I suspect there may some software which is gong to struggle to cope with zero demand across all points for an extended period of time - the phrase "Divide by zero" is ringing loud and clear 😀

AcrossthePond55 · 28/04/2025 19:47

DuncinToffee · 28/04/2025 14:00

I think Mark Carney's campaign will have to declare this post as a gift.

https://bsky.app/profile/bestforbritain.bsky.social/post/3lnusyxaiks2h

Wait. Is Scrotus telling them to vote for him as a write in?

This is insanity beyond insanity.

Igotjelly · 28/04/2025 19:52

AcrossthePond55 · 28/04/2025 19:47

Wait. Is Scrotus telling them to vote for him as a write in?

This is insanity beyond insanity.

In essence 😂 although he’s also saying the Conservative candidate is the one to vote for if they want to be the 51st state I think. Essentially a gift to Carney.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/04/2025 19:59

Igotjelly · 28/04/2025 19:52

In essence 😂 although he’s also saying the Conservative candidate is the one to vote for if they want to be the 51st state I think. Essentially a gift to Carney.

Got it! It's still insane to think that any candidate, if they won, would just say "OK, Canada, I'm going to sign the Country over to the US so we can be the 51st state". Or that they'd even have the power to do so.

Although it does seem as if I'm not the only one who interpreted it as a request to write him in.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-suggests-canadians-elect-making-country-51st-state/story?id=121241461

Hope Canada is ready for all the 'witch hunt' and 'election fraud, I WON!' bullshit we've been putting up with.

Igotjelly · 28/04/2025 20:00

AcrossthePond55 · 28/04/2025 19:59

Got it! It's still insane to think that any candidate, if they won, would just say "OK, Canada, I'm going to sign the Country over to the US so we can be the 51st state". Or that they'd even have the power to do so.

Although it does seem as if I'm not the only one who interpreted it as a request to write him in.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-suggests-canadians-elect-making-country-51st-state/story?id=121241461

Hope Canada is ready for all the 'witch hunt' and 'election fraud, I WON!' bullshit we've been putting up with.

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Wouldn’t be like to Trump to be unclear in his communications 😂

logicisall · 28/04/2025 20:03

I sent that post to my bil in Canada and he says that if the Easterners vote Liberal again, there are many people in Alberta who might just want to join the USA.

"Alberta's oil sands has the fourth-largest proven oil reserves in the world, after Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and Iran".

Trump supporters are not homogenous but differ in their reasons. Many people in Alberta hated Trudeau for being 'too woke' and Trump is the antithesis of woke. Plus O&G.

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