Why is cancer so common now

[KingKitty]

I know 4 people all under 45 who died of cancer within the past three years. It's so so so so sad. They are just so so so young. I am just after hearing of another person with cancer all over her body.

.Why is cancer so common now and why is it taking people even young people?

It's so scary.

According to the Cancer Research Society the 'Western style diet' is linked to the rise in cancers in young people (a large proportion of which are of the digestive system).
https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2023/01/24/early-onset-cancer-why-are-more-young-adults-being-diagnosed/

A few of us have suggested the jab may (or may not) be the cause. The usual mocking follows. However, don't dismiss it. Its possibly that. People don't like to countenance that/ Its hard to compute I get that. But its a possibility. Do some research and take a look.

I’ve done “the research”. I am not seeing a link.

if your “research” shows differently please share.

saying something and telling people to “do their research” is not how science works.

Actual scientists do the research, then write it up and present it to the scientific community to be challenged.

if I turned up to a conference or submitted a paper saying “x is true, do your research and you’ll see”, do you think that will get me published? Funnily enough, it doesn’t.

if your research is evidencing a new hypothesis why not write it up and submit it?

You may be talking about the last 5 years OP, but that's based on anecdote only. The reason why posters are mentioning the last 30 years is that is what the data shows (in the articles linked to above). The incidence of early onset cancer has been increasing since the 1990s, reversing the falling trend before then.

How much time have you spent in a lab doing research? What’s your degree in and what’s your speciality?

browsing the internet is not research.

I didn't say I had been in a lab. I am offering a view. We are allowed to do so. I hope my view is wrong!

What is your view based on?

Yes, you are allowed to offer a view. But your words "Do some research" imply that you have done some research and that is what your view is based on? Can you link to that research?

We all have mobile phones though, yet the number of young people with cancer is still tiny- it’s just increased. Why would such a small number of people be impacted if mobile phones were to blame?

I could link to lots of stuff I have read...but am not going to because I have better things to do! But feel free to go ahead and so the same if you wish. And my view is based upon what I have read and what I have seen around me with all the people who have been jabbed. As before, its just a view. I may well be wrong. I hope so. Almost everyone I know had the jab.

I find it so very odd that in expressing such a view (in a very modest and low key way) that people immediately jump upon it to say you are wrong. I wonder why that is. The same reaction does not appear if anyone says its phones, its processed food. Very odd.

But of course your “view” is wrong- how could it be right? You know literally nothing about it.

To answer your last question

probably due to vaccinations being around for 200 years, the first illuminating the disease that killed half a billion people in the last century before it was eradicated.

if cancer was caused by vaccines, then a rise in cancer would have been seen ling before now

Eradicating not illuminating

Because you are wrong. And you can’t produce the evidence to back up your claims.

we haven’t had a sudden rise in early onset cancer in the last 5 years.

if it was due to the jab we’d be seeing the biggest increase in the elderly and vulnerable, NOT young people. As that is the group that were vaccinated first and with the most boosters.

so your entire hypothesis can’t be correct as you’re suggesting we’re seeing an increase in the least vaccinated part of the population, not the most.

fwiw I know a high profile man in his 20’s who died in 2021. I know how and why he died. Yet social media has clocked on to a “sudden” death of a healthy young man and he is often included in “vaccine deaths”.

The nhs being massively stuffed right now must be having some impact ? It’s a running joke amongst most ppl I speak with that you have to be already half dead to get a drs appointment. If you know someone who has been unwell and you ask them if they have seen a gp, they give you that “you must be joking?” Look. So that coupled with the ppl that were effectively killed because they couldn’t access treatment during covid lockdowns and then the subsequent back logs. Not to mention poor diet, pollution, micro plastics and of course an increased ability to communicate with literally everyone we’ve ever met, my parents would learn that an old school friend had passed from cancer - sometimes a decade after they had passed. I can tell you where people I had year 9 maths with took their family holiday last summer. 🤣

I don't have a hypothesis!! I am merely stating that the jabs may be the reason. They may not! Who knows. Frankly in a way I don't care because I did not take it (funnily enough). You do protest too much. You probably have far more skin in the game than I do....And if I know nothing about it then you have no reason to worry.

All other reasons are pretty much accepted as a possibility. But the jab, ohhhh noooo, you cannot possibly suggest that. Bizarre.

That’s not true. I said above mobile phones aren’t

You stated you’d “done your research” and had concluded that the jabs were increasing cancer.

you suggested that if we all also “did our research” that we’d conclude the same.

the only “skin in the game” I have as a scientist is people who spout nonsense because they looked something up on google then start implying that anyone who doesn’t agree hasn’t “done their research”.

it’s typical earth is flat crap where people think they can google for 10 mins and know more about a subject than those who have studied it for years, and published their “research” for peer scrutiny.

There is active research done with covid jab and cancer. Robert Malone has published his work, he was founder of the mRNA vaccine.
Big pharmaceuticals are suppressing his and the voice of similar others.
Similar things have happened throughout history:

What we thought: In the '70s and '80s, fat was the enemy, so low-fat products flooded the market.
What actually happened: These were often packed with sugar instead. Now we know that unsaturated fats (like those in nuts, olive oil, and avocados) are essential, while sugar and refined carbs may be more harmful in excess.

If you want research and trust the experts thinking - guess what, you still got to be open to hearing all sides.

As a few others have said, I don’t know if I believe the jab causes cancer, but I certainly have considered and am considering it.

I remember my grandfather telling me about an old man who lived next door to him. That chap was born in 1872 and spent his whole life as a woodcutter and gravedigger. He died aged 84. He never visited a doctor or a dentist in his life and died in hospital of pneumonia. My grandfather said people in those days were terrified of doctors and did all they could to avoid them (plus, of course, they couldn’t afford them - this man lived pre-welfare state, remember). He also said that it was common in those days for farm labourers to work right up to their death. One day they were at work, then suddenly they’d be gone, often in their late 60s or early 70s, from heart attacks or flu viruses.

When you compare our world to theirs, a few things stand out:

1. Their world was much quieter and emptier. In 1900, the world’s population was below a billion. Today it is eight billion and heading for ten. If that old chap could come back to life, he’d find Britain unbearably noisy, crowded and stressful. In fact, it would seem insane.

2. He lived on vegetables that he grew in his garden. Men in those days grew all their own food, not as a middle class hobby, but to survive. I doubt my grandfather’s neighbour ever ate a bag of crisps or a donut or a bottle of coke in his entire life.

3. He probably slept like a log. He got up at the same time and went to bed at the same time every day.

4. The air and water and food were nowhere near so polluted.

5. He never took any pills.

6. He was outside all day every day doing physical labour and in touch with the natural world.

7. No cars/pollution until he was well into middle-age.

8. He was thin as a rake right up to his death.

I think it’s alcohol for women. In the past women rarely drank and in recent years, wine has become the norm. There is no science for this it’s just my own personal view, as well as Chernobyl has impacted those who were born and were young in the 1980s. Again just my personal view and no stats!!

I don't have cancer but I have a sporadic gene mutation that causes systematic destruction of one of my vital organs. Thankfully there's a drug that stops it.

I agree - plastics, pollution, stress, vaping, alcohol, decreasing nutritional content of food through UPF and overproduction / overfarming.

I'm also inclined to think lack of sleep - there's studies that show risk of cancer increases after just one bad night sleep.

Also bad diagnostics - doctors not thinking a young person could have cancer so the diagnosis is too late. I lost a friend to cancer in their 40s.

But you could apply that logic to any of the theories on why it’s more common now.
Even micro plastics are in our water supply so everybody has them entering their bodies whether they try to avoid them or not.
And at some point in people’s lives most people have eaten processed foods and most people have eaten fruit and veg that have been sprayed with pesticides.