Why is cancer so common now

[KingKitty]

I know 4 people all under 45 who died of cancer within the past three years. It's so so so so sad. They are just so so so young. I am just after hearing of another person with cancer all over her body.

.Why is cancer so common now and why is it taking people even young people?

It's so scary.

One thing I’m interested in is have rates of brain cancers gone down as I remember at one point phone use was a concern but I rarely see anyone holding a phone to their ear anymore unless they are over about 50?

Not in humans and not in quantities humans are likely to consume

I think it's a combination of better treatments for other things, I'd have been wiped out by my appendix at 28.
Then complications with pregnancies.

I think there's better diagnosis.

As someone else said we keep in touch with more people. And papers are full of people speaking out.

People talk about it DH had a friend die of a facial cancer.
My DGPs had a friend who died after a "wee growth was removed from his face" in the 80s. They took me to visit, he was skin and bone. I can't help wonder.

Pollution and chemicals probably don't help.

And I think more recently people sit around much more.
20 years ago in an office job people got up to get paper files from a cupboard. Now they find them on a hard drive.
30 years ago if you wanted to channel hop you got off your ass and pushed the button.

Even manual jobs are less manual more hoists and machines than they were. No bad thing less injuries but is it really good for people's health?

What's glioma?

That was only ever conjecture; there is no proven link.

I attended a lecture through work.Not long ago with a top cancer specialist and researcher.

She told us all the causes of cancer on the rise are obesity, smoking and drinking.

She told us all, get your weight down if you need to, stop smoking & drinking as 50+% now get cancer

The response in the audience at the suggestion, they should stop drinking and lose weight and stop smoking was 🙄

Of course, it's no longer popular to call someone fat and tell them they need to lose weight. it's body shaming, and they need to be body positive.

The weight loss injection threads on here will tell you so many people just cannot stop eating too much and they need medication with serious side effects to stop them doing it.

But if you all want to bury your head in the sand and pretend its plastics or vaccines, then go ahead. We live appallingly, unhealthy lives. We eat too much and we eat too much snack, food and processed foods.

Given that the most rapid rise in cancer rates in under 50s happened pre-covid this isn't relevant.

Pollution, chemicals in food/drinks, eating processed foods.

I have an incurable cancer.

weight is an issue for cancer
i did smoke in my 20s
i drank

i was also asked if i ever touched or worked in petroleum chemicals. I tell everyone to wear a glove filling up their car.

A meta review has shown a direct link between the amount of Ultra processed foods a person eats and getting cancer.

Multiple factors but the main thing is that it isn't at younger age groups, we just hear about cases that are in the community, distant contacts due to social media. It’s more common in older people for one simple reason, we live longer - cancer is principally a disease of the old and the longer you live the higher chance of cell mutation

@ThisUniqueDreamer
Do you really think people are drinking more now than they did in the past?

Obviously people are fatter and much less fit. But I'm not so sure on the drink. The UKs oldest pub 500 yo is about to close. Maybe people drink more at home. But I'm not convinced it's drink.

The drinking is a contributing factor. However the main cause is obesity. I notice how you picked and choose the bits you wanted to hear.

It's now socially acceptable to be morbidly overweight. It should come as no surprise that health is suffering for it.

But you hone in on the drink and say people aren't drinking that much.It's more the food that's doing it alcohol is, a contributing factor. And it also depends on what social circles you move in. I see some pretty hefty drinking socially from colleagues on occasion.

she's referring to the increase in cases.
What dos the little green man comment mean? I assume it's the very lazy, tiresome assumption that all criticism of those injections means you believe in aliens etc? So weird

I asked a friend who is an oncologist about this. Her answer: no one knows, but if she had to place a bet based on what we do know and also on correlation - UPF and microplastics. Not that long ago, bowel cancer in young people was considered very rare. Obviously obesity as well but that's established science.

My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer (slow growing) 14 years ago, his Dr said old age will kill him before the cancer gets a chance. He has a multitude of health issues, but the cancer still isn’t doing anything.

I recall hearing a report about diagnosis/survival rates of prostate cancer in (I think) South Korea. They had rolled out extensive a screening programme and diagnosis rates had shot up as they were picking up early stages of the disease. Survival rates however remain exactly the same as before, suggesting that many men have the slow growing version and in many cases there is no point offering them treatment in the early stages which is often invasive and result in other side effects.

The most common type of brain cancer in children.

this.

Even the cancer charities acknowledge that something like 75% of cancers could be avoided through lifestyle changes.

The average person doesn't have that knowledge now, but doctors did in the 19th century, which is what you were talking about, and clearly somebody diagnosed stomach cancer in Mozart's son and announced that that was the cause of death, so the journalists reported it. You're right that poor people who couldn't afford to pay for a doctor and couldn't get admittance to a charity hospital or a workhouse with a doctor would probably have died with no expert diagnosis and the cause of death would have been somebody's best guess based on symptoms.

It was a point of language l, not the harmfulness or not of certain chemical compounds of elements.

if you say “children are female” it means, literally, that all children are female. If you say “some children are female”, it is clear that some are not.

language matters (especially to those who think literally)

I think it’s very common in the West and I’d say it’s lifestyle. I definitely think that it’s on the rise.

When I was in secondary school over 20 years ago my English teacher would joke about getting it because he was a chain smoker (and he did die of it eventually), but I remember him telling us that 1/10 would get it - before saying 3 people in the room would get it (a class of 30) - of course that memory sticks with you.

Last week I was watching celebrity hunted stand up to cancer and the stat is now 1/2!!! So half of the UK population are most likely to get cancer!!!! What!!! And it’s said so casually like there is nothing we can do about it - grim.

We have very rubbish food in the west, all of our plants and meats are sprayed with chemicals - which we digest. And the nutritional value ofnour foods have significantly declined.

Im from a country that people in the west would call developing - and out there you don’t hear about death from cancer as much.

Nobody talks about this but technology! We are surrounded by rays and signal and Bluetooth etc. I went to visit a friend that lives in a rural area in the uk and they found birds with tumours dying around the areas where there were phone towers.

We don’t even have tips on how to prevent it anymore - because whilst smokers, heavy drinkers etc are more likely to get one type of cancer, there are so many other types that the average healthy person develops. Also young people with cancer is on the rise!

In the west we are so advanced with our tech, but actually that could be what’s killing us because we are living in conditions that are so unnatural for our bodies - the amount of pollution, the fake food, and so much more.

Assuming this is an attempt to be funny and not stupidity?

I don't know, lots of factors. But of the several people I know, half have developed it after an extremely stressful event.

I'm sure you're right. Obesity is the very obvious change in my lifetime. I'm 63. When I was at school it was very unusual for a child to be overweight, never mind obese. Now it's unusual in some areas for a child not to be overweight.

The car has a lot to answer for. If you ask people why they don't let their children play outside unsupervised any more they will usually talk about paedophiles, but the real risk comes from being knocked down by a car. So less exercise there, and a lot less from walking to and from school, the shops, the library and so on, because many children are ferried about everywhere by car.