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Why is cancer so common now

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KingKitty · 02/04/2025 20:54

I know 4 people all under 45 who died of cancer within the past three years. It's so so so so sad. They are just so so so young. I am just after hearing of another person with cancer all over her body.

.Why is cancer so common now and why is it taking people even young people?

It's so scary.

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Augustus40 · 03/04/2025 18:04

ITV has a documentary about cancer tonight.

muggart · 03/04/2025 18:30

Sourwitch · 03/04/2025 14:59

I guess the counter argument to that is if you didn’t take antibiotics the you could die of a simple infection way before cancer.

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Oh absolutely. But many times they are given preventatively too or when they are not needed. Doctors (understandably) don’t want a preventable death on their hands as they would be blamed, and they won’t be blamed for any longer term consequences of poor gut health, so the incentives are skewed.

Freakedfreaked · 03/04/2025 18:32

Needspaceforlego · 03/04/2025 07:24

What's glioma?

Brain cancer

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Kirbert2 · 03/04/2025 18:59

muggart · 03/04/2025 18:30

Oh absolutely. But many times they are given preventatively too or when they are not needed. Doctors (understandably) don’t want a preventable death on their hands as they would be blamed, and they won’t be blamed for any longer term consequences of poor gut health, so the incentives are skewed.

Funnily enough my son had never had antibiotics until he got cancer and then every time he got a temperature, they started him on them just in case because of his lack of immune system.

vandelle · 03/04/2025 19:50

It's the result of one or a combination of the following (IMV)

Bad luck
Genetics
Weak immune system
Lifestyle
Stress.
Statistics

Impossible to avoid it I think. A smoker can die of old age, a non smoker dies at 40 from non small cell lung cancer. One obese person eats crap and drinks like a fish lives to 80, (but with diabetes and heart disease), the slim fit person gets colon cancer. And so on.

See the above list and what's first there? That and stress are the primary reasons I think. Especially in young fit people.

Cattenberg · 03/04/2025 22:47

vandelle · 03/04/2025 19:50

It's the result of one or a combination of the following (IMV)

Bad luck
Genetics
Weak immune system
Lifestyle
Stress.
Statistics

Impossible to avoid it I think. A smoker can die of old age, a non smoker dies at 40 from non small cell lung cancer. One obese person eats crap and drinks like a fish lives to 80, (but with diabetes and heart disease), the slim fit person gets colon cancer. And so on.

See the above list and what's first there? That and stress are the primary reasons I think. Especially in young fit people.

Statistics? Is that the same as bad luck or have I misunderstood?

Buttonknot · 04/04/2025 00:07

Augustus40 · 03/04/2025 17:43

It is all since covid vaccines.

I like watching Dr John Campbell.

Hard not to agree with him. Though I did take the jabs also my ds.

Thus is the only thing that has changed in the past few years.

Prepared to get flamed now.

But we're not trying to identify a factor that's changed in just the past few years. The rate of early onset cancers has been increasing for the past 30 or so years.

Augustus40 · 04/04/2025 10:40

Must be diet air and water pollution.

Sourwitch · 04/04/2025 10:56

Augustus40 · 03/04/2025 17:43

It is all since covid vaccines.

I like watching Dr John Campbell.

Hard not to agree with him. Though I did take the jabs also my ds.

Thus is the only thing that has changed in the past few years.

Prepared to get flamed now.

No flaming here but the time frame isn’t long enough for it to be attributed to the vaccine.

The young ones I know that have had cancer had it before covid existed.

If the vaccine was to blame then we would only be talking about those diagnosed in the last year or so, but most people are talking over a longer time frame than that,
so I don’t think its to do with the vaccine.

Sourwitch · 04/04/2025 11:00

Buttonknot · 04/04/2025 00:07

But we're not trying to identify a factor that's changed in just the past few years. The rate of early onset cancers has been increasing for the past 30 or so years.

Absolutely this!!

FvhgvgghhNC · 04/04/2025 11:28

Buttonknot · 04/04/2025 00:07

But we're not trying to identify a factor that's changed in just the past few years. The rate of early onset cancers has been increasing for the past 30 or so years.

The thing that’s changed the greatest in the past 30 years is the introduction of mobile phones. The phone masts and phones themselves have to be doing some damage. I remember in the early days of their common use in the late 90s they said they were linked to brain tumours etc and to not have them against your ear for too long, especially when they warmed up. Then the internet, social media and expensive phones became a huge money spinner and began making people very rich and the link to cancer was all closed down.

I will probably be accused of being a conspiracy theorist, but I think there’s a link between cancer and mobiles. It would account for the time frame and the increase in the young getting it.

There seems to be a big increase in the young getting bowel and breast cancer. Infact all of the people I know who have had cancer young have had one or the other. And most people carry their mobile phones in their shirt pocket/bra or their trousers back pocket.

Kirbert2 · 04/04/2025 11:32

FvhgvgghhNC · 04/04/2025 11:28

The thing that’s changed the greatest in the past 30 years is the introduction of mobile phones. The phone masts and phones themselves have to be doing some damage. I remember in the early days of their common use in the late 90s they said they were linked to brain tumours etc and to not have them against your ear for too long, especially when they warmed up. Then the internet, social media and expensive phones became a huge money spinner and began making people very rich and the link to cancer was all closed down.

I will probably be accused of being a conspiracy theorist, but I think there’s a link between cancer and mobiles. It would account for the time frame and the increase in the young getting it.

There seems to be a big increase in the young getting bowel and breast cancer. Infact all of the people I know who have had cancer young have had one or the other. And most people carry their mobile phones in their shirt pocket/bra or their trousers back pocket.

How would you explain young children who are diagnosed with cancer, including brain cancer, but don't have their own phones so obviously aren't using them as much as teens/adults will be doing?

FvhgvgghhNC · 04/04/2025 11:33

Kirbert2 · 04/04/2025 11:32

How would you explain young children who are diagnosed with cancer, including brain cancer, but don't have their own phones so obviously aren't using them as much as teens/adults will be doing?

They are still exposed to the phone masts and mobiles that are in their homes. There’s no escaping them even if you don’t own one.

User14March · 04/04/2025 11:49

FvhgvgghhNC · 04/04/2025 11:33

They are still exposed to the phone masts and mobiles that are in their homes. There’s no escaping them even if you don’t own one.

Microwave ovens also ‘new’ & people put plastic dished ready meals inside. Microplastics?

sumor · 04/04/2025 11:51

Mobile phones and mast are not the only change in the last 30 years - though I think they are fairly well researched.

Levels of microplastics in human brains may be rapidly rising, study suggests This article is more than 1 month old Research looking at tissue from postmortems between 1997 and 2024 finds upward trend in contamination

The exponential rise in microplastic pollution over the past 50 years may be reflected in increasing contamination in human brains, according to a new study.
It found a rising trend in micro- and nanoplastics in brain tissue from dozens of postmortems carried out between 1997 and 2024. The researchers also found the tiny particles in liver and kidney samples.

There's forever chemicals building up in environment and bodies

https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/yale-study-forever-chemicals-promote-cancer-cell-migration/

You've also had huge diatary changes - and possibly lower vitamin levels in food due to changes in farming - more meat consuption I think and more grain oils - which I've also seen fingers pointed at. Weight is also a factor as is height both of which have increased over time - taller you are like weight the more of you there is to go wrong and higher risk of cancer.

Grandparents doing more childcare as mother work full time - also apparently raises risks
Grandparents are posing serious health risks to children, scientists warn Grandparents spoiling children with sweet treats and large helpings could be cause for concern, study indicates

Smoking - the after affects - my Dad smoked my FIL smoked both gave up but that can affected DGC health - weight in adolescence apparently.

Less walking and more car driving
Drivers 'exposed to highest levels of pollution'

You've also got more traffic - with decline in air qualifty affecting health of people living in urban areas near to roads.

There's so much that could be causing this - and trying to work out which it is - or if it's interactions between things or everything adding slightly to risk - is a real pickle for researchers to figure out.

Yale Study: “Forever Chemicals” Promote Cancer Cell Migration

In a new study by researchers at the Yale School of Public Health, two “forever chemicals” spurred cancer cells in the lab to migrate to new positions, an

https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/yale-study-forever-chemicals-promote-cancer-cell-migration/

Pancakeflipper · 04/04/2025 11:59

I think our environments - pollution, plastic, food production, things we can't see e.g. air waves etc.

I think people live longer.

I think sometimes trauma can cause a body chemical change.

Think it's a mix of things and cancer is now a big umbrella term.

FancyThat4 · 04/04/2025 13:25

I think it’s pretty obvious….. COVID spike is causing the Turbo Cancer, if you search it’s all over the scientific papers. What is the one common factor in the last few years….?? The coronavirus spike caused by either catching COVID or the Covid jab….. there are reported cases of pancreatic cancer in 13 year old children, bowel cancer in teenagers now. People in remission for years from older cancers are turning up with re-occurrence at late stage 3/4…. Plenty of information about this available on the internet,
Personally damaged by the vaccine, I will NEVER get another dose. Do yourself a favour and refuse it.

Sourwitch · 04/04/2025 15:24

FancyThat4 · 04/04/2025 13:25

I think it’s pretty obvious….. COVID spike is causing the Turbo Cancer, if you search it’s all over the scientific papers. What is the one common factor in the last few years….?? The coronavirus spike caused by either catching COVID or the Covid jab….. there are reported cases of pancreatic cancer in 13 year old children, bowel cancer in teenagers now. People in remission for years from older cancers are turning up with re-occurrence at late stage 3/4…. Plenty of information about this available on the internet,
Personally damaged by the vaccine, I will NEVER get another dose. Do yourself a favour and refuse it.

Nah, we’re talking the last 30 years or so, not the last 2 years.

TheDevilWearPrimarni · 04/04/2025 15:34

Not another conspiracy theorist.

TheDevilWearPrimarni · 04/04/2025 15:47

Augustus40 · 03/04/2025 17:43

It is all since covid vaccines.

I like watching Dr John Campbell.

Hard not to agree with him. Though I did take the jabs also my ds.

Thus is the only thing that has changed in the past few years.

Prepared to get flamed now.

Many under 30s were actually vaccinated against Covid. Most that were had Pfizer instead of Astra Zenica.

TheDevilWearPrimarni · 04/04/2025 15:49

FancyThat4 · 04/04/2025 13:25

I think it’s pretty obvious….. COVID spike is causing the Turbo Cancer, if you search it’s all over the scientific papers. What is the one common factor in the last few years….?? The coronavirus spike caused by either catching COVID or the Covid jab….. there are reported cases of pancreatic cancer in 13 year old children, bowel cancer in teenagers now. People in remission for years from older cancers are turning up with re-occurrence at late stage 3/4…. Plenty of information about this available on the internet,
Personally damaged by the vaccine, I will NEVER get another dose. Do yourself a favour and refuse it.

More antivaxxers arriving on the thread.
Do post your evidence, from a credible source of course.

MajorCarolDanvers · 04/04/2025 15:50

mustangbee · 02/04/2025 21:15

Covid vaccines

All the tinfoil hats are coming out now

Whycanineverthinkofone · 04/04/2025 16:03

FancyThat4 · 04/04/2025 13:25

I think it’s pretty obvious….. COVID spike is causing the Turbo Cancer, if you search it’s all over the scientific papers. What is the one common factor in the last few years….?? The coronavirus spike caused by either catching COVID or the Covid jab….. there are reported cases of pancreatic cancer in 13 year old children, bowel cancer in teenagers now. People in remission for years from older cancers are turning up with re-occurrence at late stage 3/4…. Plenty of information about this available on the internet,
Personally damaged by the vaccine, I will NEVER get another dose. Do yourself a favour and refuse it.

Shit- have you written up your Ph.D yet?

this stuff needs publishing.

MikeRafone · 04/04/2025 16:15

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06887/SN06887.pdf

here is the stats on cancer, the rate of cancer has slowly increased since 2001 by 9%. during 2020 the rates decreased and have ow increased to pre covid rates

If it was the vaccination the was increasing cancer - why wouldn't the rates increase across the board in age and between females and males- you would see the gaps diminishing, rather than stying equal

KingKitty · 04/04/2025 16:21

I'm not really talking about within the past 30 years. I knew one lady in my younger childhood days who died of cancer and she was young and left behind a young family.

My aunt has cancer about 12 years ago approx. She was likely in her 50s and survived.

I am talking about within the past 5 years. There are so many young people dying of cancer. I would consider them young. Under 45. Some in there 30s. It's just too much.

I know you need a healthy immune system for the first signs of defence against cancer. I wonder if it's covid damaging cells and immune systems.

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