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Thread 21 Starmer - Casting Nasturtiums

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DuncinToffee · 31/03/2025 09:14

Previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5298316-thread-20-starmer-spring-statement?page=40&reply=143217222

Respectful and supportive discussion of things political and beyond

Cat, dog, flowers, haberdashery tax most welcome

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Llttledrummergirl · 02/04/2025 21:47

Dh and I are off to Italy in a couple of months. My Italian is limited, but greatly helped today by every excursion I booked failing to translate into English, so having to hope I booked the right thing. Booking through the official ticket office for each instead of the commercial tourist ones was so much cheaper,

Piggywaspushed · 02/04/2025 22:02

Well, I am very confused but I can speak fluent threatening Glaswegian if it helps.

MissMarplesNiece · 02/04/2025 22:21

Karistyleaftea · 02/04/2025 19:22

Hershey's chocolate .
Californian wine.
American beer.

American goods - any designer brand or car.
Celebrity perfumes.

I have to stick with Bruce Springsteen though, been in my life for decades (his music obvs ) and
he is one of the good guys.

Apparently Hershey's contains so little cocoa that it can't legally be described as chocolate in the UK. I can live without food from the US, but music on the other hand...

DuncinToffee · 02/04/2025 22:25

pointythings · 02/04/2025 21:19

I don't know Finnish, but being Dutch I am fluent in four languages (and of course there's always subtitles). I grew up with Dutch TV, so pretty much everything was subtitled. Once we got cable we had more options - it really helped my German and French A-level equivalents to watch those channels. Some really good crime shows around in those days, anyone remember Derrick?

I remember Derrick and Der Alte

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DuncinToffee · 02/04/2025 22:27

Not sure why we should boycot music, tv series or movies when so many artists are anti Trump

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PickAChew · 02/04/2025 22:53

I think the biggest impact would come from everyone choosing acceptable alternatives to everyday items. I made the point in a boycott thread that the high street didn't die because everyone stopped buying anything at all from high street shops but simply because fewer people shopped there and on average they bought less.

So DS1's chocolate fairy is buying own brand or British brands instead of mars or Cadburys. It all goes down the same way. I can go back to Finish instead of Fairy in the dishwasher. Simple swaps.

Smaller businesses are tougher. So many good independent sewing pattern companies are American. Many more are Canadian, Australian, European or British, though so all things being equal I would probably favour those for similar patterns. And that quilting that I do a bit of - it's largely American in its origins, even if other parts of the world have similar so many of the fabric brands and designers are also American.

My curly hair products are almost all American. Some are black owned businesses and I have no qualms about continuing to support them as long as they are available here. My conditioner is owned by Unilever, now. I spent a fortune before I landed on it and I'm actually not allergic to it so that's more difficult.

And, much as I hate the corporation.you can snatch my caffeine free diet coke from my cold, dead hands. It gets mixed with Vodka - European, of course and sometimes so local that it's hand delivered to my door. I did try the Tesco version and was still tasting it a day later 🤢

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 03/04/2025 04:14

Apologies - missed the new thread. Thanks as always @DuncinToffee.
Cat tax enclosed.

Thread 21 Starmer - Casting Nasturtiums
countrygirl99 · 03/04/2025 06:18

My post looks a bit nuts after the deletion 🤣

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 03/04/2025 06:27

countrygirl99 · 03/04/2025 06:18

My post looks a bit nuts after the deletion 🤣

Having joined this thread late I was curious 🤣.
Love your flying dog btw.

2dogsandabudgie · 03/04/2025 07:56

I'm not boycotting anything American. The only companies I would never buy anything from are Shein and Temu.

PandoraSox · 03/04/2025 08:10

@PickAChew as a fellow curly, could I ask about the conditioner?

I too have spent a fortune on products. Most are either too heavy and weigh my hair down or are too drying. I can only use Umberto Gianni conditioner and live in fear of it being changed or discontinued.

PandoraSox · 03/04/2025 08:15

2dogsandabudgie · 03/04/2025 07:56

I'm not boycotting anything American. The only companies I would never buy anything from are Shein and Temu.

I have never bought anything from them either. It all looks cheap and nasty to me.

PickAChew · 03/04/2025 08:16

PandoraSox · 03/04/2025 08:10

@PickAChew as a fellow curly, could I ask about the conditioner?

I too have spent a fortune on products. Most are either too heavy and weigh my hair down or are too drying. I can only use Umberto Gianni conditioner and live in fear of it being changed or discontinued.

It's Shea Moisture but not the Hibiscus one that's always recommended. I alternate between the superfruit complex and the power greens, which is a little richer.

PandoraSox · 03/04/2025 08:24

PickAChew · 03/04/2025 08:16

It's Shea Moisture but not the Hibiscus one that's always recommended. I alternate between the superfruit complex and the power greens, which is a little richer.

Thanks! Will have a look.

pointythings · 03/04/2025 08:42

PandoraSox · 03/04/2025 08:15

I have never bought anything from them either. It all looks cheap and nasty to me.

Same, but I am absolutely also boycotting American products. And yes, that has meant music by artists who support Trump. Carrie Underwood is off my playlists.

2dogsandabudgie · 03/04/2025 08:55

pointythings · 03/04/2025 08:42

Same, but I am absolutely also boycotting American products. And yes, that has meant music by artists who support Trump. Carrie Underwood is off my playlists.

What about TV shows? Films?

DuncinToffee · 03/04/2025 08:56

The White Lotus had a funny scene about a Trump supporter

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DuncinToffee · 03/04/2025 08:57

Brexiteers are crowing that 10% is a brexit benefit so

Intrigued by this narrative that Britain has done well here.

-10% is still v significant.
-We're a big exporter of cars to the US which will be subject to 25%. Terrible for UK auto industry.
-Even if we get a deal we can't avoid the major economic shock to global trade overall.

-We may have a 10% Brexit 'dividend' but the cost of that dividend is the significant lost output since Brexit and trade dislocation with the EU, which the somewhat more generous US treatment does not even nearly compensate for.

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MissMarplesNiece · 03/04/2025 09:05

Is the 10% tariff because the Government have agreed tax cuts for multi billion dollar US technology companies, as reported in the media yesterday?

How does that balance out because there are many who think some of those companies already don't pay their fair share of tax.

countrygirl99 · 03/04/2025 09:06

PandoraSox · 03/04/2025 08:15

I have never bought anything from them either. It all looks cheap and nasty to me.

Same here. I don't buy tat from anywhere and I'm avoiding US products due to Trumps treatment of Ukraine.

Evenstar · 03/04/2025 09:08

The penguins are not happy

Thread 21 Starmer - Casting Nasturtiums
countrygirl99 · 03/04/2025 09:11

2dogsandabudgie · 03/04/2025 08:55

What about TV shows? Films?

Edited

I hardly watch tv and if I do it's nearly always a UK or European production. I don't sit still long enough to watch a film.

DuncinToffee · 03/04/2025 09:13

MissMarplesNiece · 03/04/2025 09:05

Is the 10% tariff because the Government have agreed tax cuts for multi billion dollar US technology companies, as reported in the media yesterday?

How does that balance out because there are many who think some of those companies already don't pay their fair share of tax.

I doubt it has anything to do with that, I posted this thread on the Trump one, explaining how the tariffs were calculated,

https://skywriter.blue/pages/did:plc:yxiibcgnjyr66f4pbelejrxb/post/3lluzuseuls2s

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PickAChew · 03/04/2025 09:46

DuncinToffee · 03/04/2025 09:19

The article is pay walled but I found a bit about the organisation involved
www.turquoisemountain.org/

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