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Thread 20 Starmer - Spring Statement

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DuncinToffee · 20/03/2025 14:03

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dontcallmelen · 29/03/2025 19:23

Placemats Pointy Piggy & any others posters missing their mums tomorrow
especially hard if it’s one of the “first” I do hope you can all have a day that doesn’t make the heartache any harder 💐
my mum died twenty years ago she was only 62, younger than I am now which is a sobering thought it’s funny some Mother’s Day I’m fairly ok & others it hits hard missing someone has no timeline.
Placemats the painting is beautiful

Bagpussnotbothered · 29/03/2025 19:39

One sec whilst I put on my stone-cold bastards hat...

Frankly, if someone has sufficiently destroyed their body through alcohol abuse to require a high-rate PiP award, I will consider that money well spent as the alternative is hospital at ££££.

You can't reason with an alcoholic. At best, you might get them into a rehab service, but they've got to want to do it.

dontcallmelen · 29/03/2025 19:57

In all my years working with people who had addictions/MH difficulties I can’t ever remember a client having just one issue, for many it was a way of self medicating for a host of reasons, prescription meds not working/dreadful side effects/inadequate support from doctors & MH teams combined with many of them having endured horrific abuse from childhood, being in the care system, excluded from school, intervention & support often to little & to late the list could go on & on it’s complicated & messy from what I can see no government has shown a sustained commitment for a co-ordinated joined up therapeutic approach starting from the early years, although when Labour won the 1997 election the service I was working in received a great deal of investment we were working in partnership with many agencies we made a great deal of difference to many many clients lives, but once 2010 came & austerity really started to bite it all fell apart.

dontcallmelen · 29/03/2025 20:13

Just a short postscript, the majority of my clients were once they got to know & trust me we’re the kindest gentlest & generous of people that I have ever met & I know it’s a cliché but for the grace of god go I, sometimes we should take a moment before we open our gobs.

ThatbloodyRoblox · 29/03/2025 20:17

Re the conversation on PIP. The form is absolutely rubbish when compared with descriptor/ points document. People applying don’t get the second. How do they know how they are to be “scored” without it?
my general thoughts ( I do complete these forms regularly) keep a copy, ask for a recording of assessment, know the descriptors.
Don’t just accept a no on the first decision. Use the MR/ appeal process and explain clearly where you fit on those. Look up some of the case law decisions to nail your point.
I say… but when you are absolutely flipping desperate and in pain and worried people are trying to trip you up.. it isn’t that easy.
I am so sorry people have been made so very worried about these cuts. It is very unfair.

itsgettingweird · 29/03/2025 20:27

dontcallmelen · 29/03/2025 19:57

In all my years working with people who had addictions/MH difficulties I can’t ever remember a client having just one issue, for many it was a way of self medicating for a host of reasons, prescription meds not working/dreadful side effects/inadequate support from doctors & MH teams combined with many of them having endured horrific abuse from childhood, being in the care system, excluded from school, intervention & support often to little & to late the list could go on & on it’s complicated & messy from what I can see no government has shown a sustained commitment for a co-ordinated joined up therapeutic approach starting from the early years, although when Labour won the 1997 election the service I was working in received a great deal of investment we were working in partnership with many agencies we made a great deal of difference to many many clients lives, but once 2010 came & austerity really started to bite it all fell apart.

I’m very much hoping this is what Labour are planning this time around.

dontcallmelen · 29/03/2025 20:47

itsgettingweird · 29/03/2025 20:27

I’m very much hoping this is what Labour are planning this time around.

I really hope that will happen, but my confidence in Labour has been shaken over the last week or so.

ThatbloodyRoblox · 29/03/2025 21:41

dontcallmelen · 29/03/2025 20:47

I really hope that will happen, but my confidence in Labour has been shaken over the last week or so.

I think the Manchester working well scheme was the kind of pilot for this. I am concerned ( maybe wrongly) that work well that is being moved to more areas now may be more diluted.
I hope not but this needs absolute cross organisation work and support from health/ DWP/ housing / social care / employers and other services.

PickAChew · 29/03/2025 22:20

Yeah, we've had a similar organisation working specifically with NEETs in our county for some time. They signposted DS1 to some courses helping him with employability and independence. He gained a lot of confidence through the first course which was very gentle, very basic skills but the second one he did was too much for him and he shut down.

Durham Works

https://durhamworks.info/

Karistyleaftea · 29/03/2025 22:43

I’m going to miss my mum tomorrow, she died just before Christmas so this will be the first one.
I’m feeling quite emotional tonight because of the Mother’s Day thing and also I spent a day last week with my wonderful, courageous cousin who has MND which is so sad and she is so brave.
I do have my amazing DC with me this weekend and my lovely DH.
Hugs and kind thoughts to all who need them tomorrow.

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Zonder · 29/03/2025 23:02

Extra tax from me for all those missing their mums.

Mine is still here but dementia means she's not the person she was. At least I can wish her HMD tomorrow though.

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MyNameIsX · 30/03/2025 04:54

More than 18,500 people who were eligible for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) in October last year received money to help cope with alcohol-related liver disease, or drug or alcohol misuse, according to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

Saucery · 30/03/2025 06:34

Much love to anyone who finds today difficult for all the reasons that can be Flowers

itsgettingweird · 30/03/2025 07:29

Happy Mother’s Day everyone.

FlowersGin For all.

thoughts with those who are missing their mums today through death, dementia or distance. Daffodil

MyNameIsX · 30/03/2025 08:53

Yvette Cooper has pledged to end “jobs on tap” for illegal immigrants by closing loopholes in Britain’s lax border laws.

The Home Secretary has vowed to “restore order to the asylum system”by targeting takeaway delivery services and beauty salons that hire on the black market.

She is announcing that rogue bosses of “gig economy” companies that employ workers without a visa could face unlimited fines and five years behind bars.

She told The Telegraph: “We are restoring order to the asylum system. This means introducing tough laws and stopping rogue employers in their tracks. We will clamp down on the jobs on tap that undercut the labour market.”

DT, natch.

PickAChew · 30/03/2025 08:53

Wishing everyone thr best possible mother's day 🌷🌷🌷

DS2 is loud, this morning. There is a card on top of the microwave, face down and half opened already. I get spoilt rotten 🙄

Zonder · 30/03/2025 08:57

Aw @PickAChew !

I'm kicking my MD off by being up bright and early to pick up youngest from a sleepover. I'm due there in 5 mins but she hasn't been on her phone yet so I'm waiting until I know she's awake!

pointythings · 30/03/2025 09:07

Well, DC1 is working today and I'm not, so I'm just having a normal housework day. Which is actually fine. DC has made me a present and is likely to bring back cake from work.

Notonthestairs · 30/03/2025 09:09

I don’t celebrate Mothers Day.
But I wish all that do a good day, particularly those that are missing their Mum.

My mother died over a decade ago but she’s never far from my thoughts.

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itsgettingweird · 30/03/2025 09:22

Beautiful daffodils stairs - they always remind me of my mum. Her favourite colour was yellow and she loved yellow flowers.

I’ll be laying yellow flowers at the crem for her later.

PandoraSox · 30/03/2025 09:34

Happy Mother's Day to all you mums on this thread. My mum is no longer here, she has been gone a long time now but you never stop missing them. @Karistyleaftea the first one is hard 💐 be kind to yourself.

BestIsWest · 30/03/2025 09:50

Happy Mother's Day to all you mums and those missing their mums on the thread. I’ll be off to visit mine in hospital later.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 30/03/2025 09:54

Another one here whose parents are both long gone. Wishing all current mothers on the thread a very happy Mothering Sunday.

DuncinToffee · 30/03/2025 09:55

Happy Mothersday you lovely bunch Flowers

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cardibach · 30/03/2025 09:59

I lost my own mum some years ago (on my birthday, but that’s another story 😢) but I’m going to DD’s in a little while. We are going to do a bit of shopping for her new house (I say shopping - probs just looking) and then going for a walk to locate the cave the Chartists hid all their stuff in before the Newport Rising. It is, obviously, a little hidden so may be a challenge! Bit of working class history for MD (and I went to the Strike! exhibition about the 1984 Miners’ Strike yesterday at the a national Museum in Cardiff so I’m having a bit of a weekend of it). Pic for hope.

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