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MissRain · 18/03/2025 19:56

My sister works with AI and explained how AI already saves man hours and her boss is looking to reduce the team over time. I am so worried about the future job prospects for the next generation. Other than cook, plumber, brick layer, physio therapist, surgeon, what jobs may be less likely to be affected in the near future? I guess anything that requires manual skill and labour as robotics will be less likely to advance as fast. How will you advise you young people?

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LadyNairne · 20/03/2025 11:25

We should encourage children to go back into the arts. Creative skills. Painting and drawing, writing, poetry, music, acting, dance, sculpture, performance.

And push the human value of these so people will pay for them.

I am worried that it’s a slippery slope of people accepting AI-produced arts.

SunflowerGoldfinch · 20/03/2025 11:29

Not read the full thread yet, but I can’t help but wonder if those jobs that cannnot be done with AI will become the new top wages careers, and those that are currently higher salaries will be the new minimum wage!

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 11:44

SunflowerGoldfinch · 20/03/2025 11:29

Not read the full thread yet, but I can’t help but wonder if those jobs that cannnot be done with AI will become the new top wages careers, and those that are currently higher salaries will be the new minimum wage!

Interesting point! Although I can't see this happening (could be wrong). Given there will be way more people that want and need these jobs (due to other jobs disappearing) they can probably keep the wages of the lower wage jobs down a bit - there will be so many less jobs overall. Although it would be nice to see the wages of the lower wages go up of course.

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Augustus40 · 20/03/2025 13:43

I wd sooner see hell freeze over than allow AI robots to conduct dental implants and the like!

Alexandra2001 · 20/03/2025 13:52

There are millions of people who cannot access dental care, should AI make dentistry quicker and therefore cheaper, more people can get treated.... more work for the dentist, who is still required to operate the robotic arm... could a robot replace a dentist? atm they struggle to be able to pick strawberries & other soft fruit.

Same across other areas of healthcare, NHS has around 7m waiting for care, reducing that will require even more technological improvements, improving health, these people can than do more things, which usually cost money, create more demand.... even go back to work, spend money in their local areas.

Business need people to by their products and services, that means people have to work, a UBI will not be enough to enable people to have hobbies, fly, buy cars, shop etc etc.

So who will provide the profit base for the AI/Tech companies to pay more tax for this UBI ?

All pie in the sky.

westisbest1982 · 20/03/2025 14:12

@Alexandra2001 The robot doing dental work on a patient that I linked to earlier requires no assistance from a human.

Mielikki · 20/03/2025 14:18

ClowningArounds · 18/03/2025 22:20

This is a interesting point... Indeed AI may well give exactly the same advice as a human therapist, but how much of the therapy experience is about the human-to-human interaction outside of the actual advice?

Already a lot of therapy is delivered online rather than face to face so it’s not a big step to simply replace a therapist with an AI avatar. AI counselling is already big in China: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7g45g2nxno.amp

A woman lies on her front on a lounge, holding a phone in one hand and pressing her brow with the other

'DeepSeek brought me to tears': How young Chinese find therapy in AI - BBC News

Some young people in China are finding that AI can offer the unexpected - emotional support

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7g45g2nxno.amp

Mielikki · 20/03/2025 14:20

SunflowerGoldfinch · 20/03/2025 11:29

Not read the full thread yet, but I can’t help but wonder if those jobs that cannnot be done with AI will become the new top wages careers, and those that are currently higher salaries will be the new minimum wage!

Unlikely as if loads more people are chasing a smaller number of jobs then pay goes down.

Mielikki · 20/03/2025 14:25

LadyNairne · 20/03/2025 11:25

We should encourage children to go back into the arts. Creative skills. Painting and drawing, writing, poetry, music, acting, dance, sculpture, performance.

And push the human value of these so people will pay for them.

I am worried that it’s a slippery slope of people accepting AI-produced arts.

AI is already decimating creative jobs: copywriters, graphic designers, illustrators, commercial composers (advertising jingles etc) are seeing work dry up.

Active consumers of art do put a premium on human-created art and writing, but most people are passive consumers (via advertising and commercial copy) and that is where most creatives actually make their money. No-one cares if the copy on an ad was written by AI or a human so obviously the human loses out.

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 14:42

As an artist I definitely think that there will be a bit of a renaissance of interest in anything human made. The Arts and Crafts movement (William Morris etc) came around as a response to the massive technological change at the time and was very popular. So whilst certain careers (graphic design etc) will lose out or change a great deal I can only see truly high quality art and design becoming more valuable and wanted. That said it will become increasingly difficult to tell the difference between AI made and human made so there is some scope (depending on the medium) for people to lie and humans not to be able to tell the difference. So sharing and validating the true artistic process will become increasingly important, through in-person artistic demonstrations, documenting of hand processes and so on.

Alexandra2001 · 20/03/2025 14:47

westisbest1982 · 20/03/2025 14:12

@Alexandra2001 The robot doing dental work on a patient that I linked to earlier requires no assistance from a human.

This is what the 'paper had to say on this tech...

Firstly, the robotic arm offers haptic feedback, allowing physical guidance when placing the implant in the desired position. Secondly, a patient tracker integrated into the robotic system monitors patient movement and provides real-time feedback on a screen. This feature ensures that the surgeon is aware of any changes and can adjust accordingly. Lastly, the robotic system operates under human-robot collaboration, with the surgeon maintaining control and oversight throughout the procedure

Funding has come from a Dr Zuckerberg... father of Mark....

I did like the idea of a crown being fitted in one appointment, though how that could happen is beyond me, as a mold needs to taken, sent to a lab, crown made, then fitted.... unless AI makes the Zirconia Crown at the dentist practice...

LadyNairne · 20/03/2025 14:51

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 14:42

As an artist I definitely think that there will be a bit of a renaissance of interest in anything human made. The Arts and Crafts movement (William Morris etc) came around as a response to the massive technological change at the time and was very popular. So whilst certain careers (graphic design etc) will lose out or change a great deal I can only see truly high quality art and design becoming more valuable and wanted. That said it will become increasingly difficult to tell the difference between AI made and human made so there is some scope (depending on the medium) for people to lie and humans not to be able to tell the difference. So sharing and validating the true artistic process will become increasingly important, through in-person artistic demonstrations, documenting of hand processes and so on.

I love this post. Thank you. Great point.

We need a “made by a human” trade mark. A bit like fair trade or the “protected designation of origin” EU label for food like Greek Feta or drinks like French Champagne

And make that “made by a human” label something humans want to pay for.

This shift can only be led by the general public, the 99%, as the richest people have a bigger interest in supporting “made by AI” as it makes more profit for them.

We need to teach our children, quickly, the value of human creativity.

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 15:58

LadyNairne · 20/03/2025 14:51

I love this post. Thank you. Great point.

We need a “made by a human” trade mark. A bit like fair trade or the “protected designation of origin” EU label for food like Greek Feta or drinks like French Champagne

And make that “made by a human” label something humans want to pay for.

This shift can only be led by the general public, the 99%, as the richest people have a bigger interest in supporting “made by AI” as it makes more profit for them.

We need to teach our children, quickly, the value of human creativity.

Edited

That is a great point about teaching children the value of creativity! In a world run by AI processes, human creativity is the one thing that will help individuals to stand out, so it will be even more important to develop it.

Unfortunately there's less and less support for the arts in education these days - and pursuing an arts based degree is very difficult (because it is hard to justify the cost) if you're on a low income. And pursuing art in your free time is difficult if you have to pay the rent and work in a low pay job!!

We are going to have to push and press hard to avoid the pursuit of creativity being the preserve of the rich only!

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 16:01

@mynameisausername I love the "made by human" trademark idea as well- great idea!

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 16:14

@LadyNairne I meant to tag you rather than myself there 😅

Mielikki · 20/03/2025 16:47

LadyNairne · 20/03/2025 14:51

I love this post. Thank you. Great point.

We need a “made by a human” trade mark. A bit like fair trade or the “protected designation of origin” EU label for food like Greek Feta or drinks like French Champagne

And make that “made by a human” label something humans want to pay for.

This shift can only be led by the general public, the 99%, as the richest people have a bigger interest in supporting “made by AI” as it makes more profit for them.

We need to teach our children, quickly, the value of human creativity.

Edited

What would this ‘made by human’ mark be for though? What kind of products would it be on? I don’t think the people who commission music or graphics for ads, or copy for leaflet drops, which is where AI is making a huge impact and putting a lot of people out of work, are going to care enough.

Sure, for actual artistic endeavour it might help, but that is not where AI is having an impact - it’s commercial art, sound and writing that is being impacted.

LadyNairne · 20/03/2025 16:53

@Mielikki good question. I’ve not thought through the “made by a human” trademark and don’t know how it’d work. But it deserves to be thought about!

I’m initially thinking of products :

  • books, novels and picture books and non fiction etc
  • Art - prints, postcards, posters, photos, album art
  • Music - lyrics, scores, sheet music, audio recordings: whether hard copies that are bought, or songs that are streamed
  • videos and films

I appreciate this is very limited. And it’s hard to be a purist as perhaps a music recording has used Ai auto tune so has elements of AI even if mostly made by a human. But I think it’s important to differentiate.

I don’t want to read a novel or listen to a song made by AI. It’s the human creativity and the human experience going into it that means so much to me.

Mielikki · 20/03/2025 16:53

Actually, I’ll take that back, there has already been a big backlash in the video and tabletop (Dungeons&Dragons etc) gaming worlds against products containing AI-generated art so it could work in the commercial art world too.

Mielikki · 20/03/2025 17:01

@LadyNairne good ideas. You mention AI products used in music production like Kits AI. These aren’t really generative AI and I don’t see them as a threat, they’re just an evolution of what engineers have been doing for years. They’re also not replacing human artists.

Yerroblemom1923 · 21/03/2025 08:07

pickedupontheway · 19/03/2025 18:56

Don't want to derail but...Why are there so many threads saying prostitution?
That is not a job!

How is this not a job? People provide a service and are paid for it. You might not agree with it and it might not be your choice of work but you can't argue it's "not a job"!
Perhaps sex workers will gain a new level of respect once AI is doing all the tippy-tappy "wfh" jobs that people so smugly enjoyed during Lockdown.

Natsku · 21/03/2025 08:51

mynameisausername · 20/03/2025 15:58

That is a great point about teaching children the value of creativity! In a world run by AI processes, human creativity is the one thing that will help individuals to stand out, so it will be even more important to develop it.

Unfortunately there's less and less support for the arts in education these days - and pursuing an arts based degree is very difficult (because it is hard to justify the cost) if you're on a low income. And pursuing art in your free time is difficult if you have to pay the rent and work in a low pay job!!

We are going to have to push and press hard to avoid the pursuit of creativity being the preserve of the rich only!

Art and creativity is so important, it's a real shame that some education systems are downgrading the importance of it. I'm glad that it's still valued in my country - my DD is picking her electives for the last two years of comprehensive school and the rule is that they have to pick at least two creative subjects from art, music, wood/metalwork, textiles, home ec, or PE (which is for some reason a creative subject). Extra PE, that is. They still all do PE.

beAsensible1 · 21/03/2025 08:57

Whitelight25 · 18/03/2025 22:21

Seems that AI only wants to do the creative, fun jobs. Haven't seen it offering to wash up or clear the drains.

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That’s because no one wants to spend the time and money refining the hardware. Much easier to do wordslop that uses up water and energy.

we need robots/ ai that can do repetitive and simple tasks. street cleaning. pot hole fillers. Drain snaking. Repairing wires etc.

we do not need it to write shit scripts

Mielikki · 21/03/2025 11:54

beAsensible1 · 21/03/2025 08:57

That’s because no one wants to spend the time and money refining the hardware. Much easier to do wordslop that uses up water and energy.

we need robots/ ai that can do repetitive and simple tasks. street cleaning. pot hole fillers. Drain snaking. Repairing wires etc.

we do not need it to write shit scripts

I think there is a lot of confusion between AI and robotics/automation. We already have robots for doing the dishes - they are called dishwashers. All the other use cases you suggest are already being addressed by automation - in some cases such as drain cleaning this has been going on for years, check out these little guys: https://robotics.koks.com/products/cleaning-handling/sewer-cleaning

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