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AI proof jobs

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MissRain · 18/03/2025 19:56

My sister works with AI and explained how AI already saves man hours and her boss is looking to reduce the team over time. I am so worried about the future job prospects for the next generation. Other than cook, plumber, brick layer, physio therapist, surgeon, what jobs may be less likely to be affected in the near future? I guess anything that requires manual skill and labour as robotics will be less likely to advance as fast. How will you advise you young people?

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MidnightMeltdown · 19/03/2025 12:51

taxguru · 19/03/2025 08:31

Nail on the head. People who can actually "do" things will be those in demand and who will command respect and higher wages, etc. It always used to be that way before the industrial revolution - there was a hierarchy of manual jobs/trades which where worth was based on how hard it was to and what equipment/tools/facilities were needed, hence a farm hand earned a lot less than a blacksmith. Nowadays people wrongly expect manual workers to earn less than someone who spends their day typing on a word processor. That WILL change.

I don’t know, I actually think that wages will drop across the board. People will follow the money. As more and more people enter these manual professions, it will drive wages down. At the moment, there’s a shortage in supply, so if you need work done on your house, you can end up paying lot for someone, who often isn’t particularly good. As the competition hots up, the shitty contractors will find themselves out of work. They will have to up their game to survive.

MissRain · 19/03/2025 15:14

It's all a bit depressing. I wish we were back in the 80s 😆

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SleepingisanArt · 19/03/2025 15:24

@Yerroblemom1923 in Japan my hotel had self cleaning toilets. They were excellent.

Undertakers - people will always die and when they do their family still need the human touch to navigate the process (mostly).

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JessieLongleg · 19/03/2025 15:29

Crinkle77 · 18/03/2025 21:27

Well in Ch 4 Humans the very life like robot house keepers can also serve a dual purpose providing sexual services so prostitution could be under threat. I doubt it though as i think most people would prefer the real thing but who knows. And surely more and more surgery will be completed by robots in the future?

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You can see the AI girls all over only fans. Men writing underneath they don't care as it looks good. Why would a brothal owner bother with real girls when robots can work 24/7. Provide unprotected sex.

Augustus40 · 19/03/2025 15:45

Beauticians physios dentists hygienists hairdressers won't be affected.

As for brothels and escorts most men will want the real thing! They will stay in work.

Simplestars · 19/03/2025 15:48

I want to live off the grid and off the land.
Remotely.
SHOVE AI

Simplestars · 19/03/2025 15:49

Grow my own and keep chickens.

Slimbear · 19/03/2025 15:53

I think we need to rethink life - change from striving to earn a lot to spend on stuff and hols to forming a closer knit community, take greater pleasure from nature, community projects, ?church. Live on less.

LadyNairne · 19/03/2025 15:55

The public conversation needs to be about what value we place on human-made stuff rather than AI-made.

The human economy and the AI economy

And from that will flow thinking about financial value of humans doing things, and thus jobs and basic standards on paying humans more than AI because we value it more.

Eg, novelists. Do we value a human-written novel more than an AI-written novel? Are we prepared to pay more for the human one even if they’re written to the same standard?

I was at a meeting with tech folk recently where the majority thought that was prejudiced against AI!

We need a “fair-trade” agreement for human m-produced services and goods, including therapeutic and creative industries, over the AI produced ones.

taxguru · 19/03/2025 15:55

westisbest1982 · 19/03/2025 08:55

People who can actually "do" things will be those in demand and who will command respect and higher wages, etc.

No, they won’t be because over the coming years there will be many more people qualified to do those jobs than what there are now.

There's no sign of any drastic in increase of numbers of training places for the trades, engineering, mechanical skills, driving courses, etc. Quite the opposite in fact. Demand far outstrips supply.

RampantIvy · 19/03/2025 15:56

I worry that we will end up with a deskilled population.

I changed my car a few months a go and my current car is an automatic with all sorts of bells and whistles that tells me what to do. I love driving it, but it doesn't need the level of skill required to drive my previous car.

taxguru · 19/03/2025 15:58

MidnightMeltdown · 19/03/2025 12:51

I don’t know, I actually think that wages will drop across the board. People will follow the money. As more and more people enter these manual professions, it will drive wages down. At the moment, there’s a shortage in supply, so if you need work done on your house, you can end up paying lot for someone, who often isn’t particularly good. As the competition hots up, the shitty contractors will find themselves out of work. They will have to up their game to survive.

There'll only be such competition if there is higher supply and/or lower demand. Can't see that happening. Far more likely the "supply" will be even more shitty contractors who can charge what they want and get away with shoddiness due to lack of quality tradesmen.

McQueensMuse · 19/03/2025 16:05

Does anyone think AI could take over from opticians?

westisbest1982 · 19/03/2025 16:06

taxguru · 19/03/2025 15:55

There's no sign of any drastic in increase of numbers of training places for the trades, engineering, mechanical skills, driving courses, etc. Quite the opposite in fact. Demand far outstrips supply.

Not yet there isn’t, but there will be.

madaffodil · 19/03/2025 16:09

A I cannot sit all night at a bedside and hold the hand of someone dying in a hospice.

It can't shoe horses, deliver kittens by caesarean, decide what you want for lunch, wipe your toddler's nose, prune roses, do sheep shearing (or round them up, come to that). It can't nab a runaway criminal by the collar or talk someone down from a bridge parapet, it can't stem bleeding or reassure someone trapped in a crashed vehicle, and it can't hold a sick bowl under a patient's nose in the back of an ambulance going round tight corners at speed.

Zilla1 · 19/03/2025 16:11

McQueensMuse · 19/03/2025 16:05

Does anyone think AI could take over from opticians?

What activity does an optom do now that couldn't be done by a machine or having an AI interpret the results of tests performed by a machine?

Natsku · 19/03/2025 16:13

Definitely author - people don't want to read AI books.
And any jobs that require human interaction.

My job is AI proof - AI can't hand build planes or fix them!

madaffodil · 19/03/2025 16:15

And it can't stop people from doing stupid things.

McQueensMuse · 19/03/2025 16:25

Zilla1 · 19/03/2025 16:11

What activity does an optom do now that couldn't be done by a machine or having an AI interpret the results of tests performed by a machine?

I’m not an optom, So I can’t answer that. 🤷‍♀️

RedHelenB · 19/03/2025 17:20

MissRain · 19/03/2025 15:14

It's all a bit depressing. I wish we were back in the 80s 😆

With manufacturing industries being decimated and record unemployment?

LadyNairne · 19/03/2025 17:29

Humans first. Make humans great again.

stayathomer · 19/03/2025 17:33

dh who’s in computers and always telling people to calm down about ai, we can work with it etc said Elon musk said in the future he’d predict a universal wage as most people will be redundant. They say manual jobs are nearly all that will be left and even then mechanics will go as cars change and don’t really require them. Dh admitted if he gets to retirement with a job he’ll be lucky (he’s 44). Saying that we can all worry and fall apart, not apply for jobs or study etc etc or we can keep on keeping on and see what happens (this is what I say, not dh!!)

ps people need to remember to eg shop local as well as online, get stuff fixed not just buy etc etc and at least we keep people in jobs!

mysecretshame · 19/03/2025 17:48

madaffodil · 19/03/2025 16:09

A I cannot sit all night at a bedside and hold the hand of someone dying in a hospice.

It can't shoe horses, deliver kittens by caesarean, decide what you want for lunch, wipe your toddler's nose, prune roses, do sheep shearing (or round them up, come to that). It can't nab a runaway criminal by the collar or talk someone down from a bridge parapet, it can't stem bleeding or reassure someone trapped in a crashed vehicle, and it can't hold a sick bowl under a patient's nose in the back of an ambulance going round tight corners at speed.

I don't really want to do any of those things as my job though.

I guess people will just have to put up with whatever they can get.

MidnightMeltdown · 19/03/2025 17:48

taxguru · 19/03/2025 15:58

There'll only be such competition if there is higher supply and/or lower demand. Can't see that happening. Far more likely the "supply" will be even more shitty contractors who can charge what they want and get away with shoddiness due to lack of quality tradesmen.

You can’t see that happening? You don’t think that people will retrain when their jobs become non-existent? Or that you think that young people will continue to go to uni to study and apply for jobs that no longer exist? Supply will almost certainly increase dramatically. It will take a few years, but the workforce will change and adapt to the new employment market.

SleepingisanArt · 19/03/2025 17:52

@RampantIvy - we got rid of a car with all that technology after just a few weeks. The sensors which 'read' speed signs can't distinguish between the ones on the motorway and those on a slip road - we'd be doing 70 and the car would suddenly brake because the sign on the slip road was 40..... The lane assist would try to steer the car back onto the motorway when we were trying to exit at a junction..... It was horrific! Until the 'safety systems' are actually safer I'm sticking with my old manual car which requires me to read signs and pay attention to the traffic and conditions around me!