Thread 18 Starmer: All sides of the House agree apart from the Trump bootlickers

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Why is it funny?

But I am a bot. I have come out of the closet.

Well, we'll never know - because you won't provide one.

I knew there was something iffy about you!

You tell, me and I will tell you if you if you were right

Yes. I have learned that it is better not to be in the cupboard to report your all ideas to the Guardian @PandoraSox

That's not how it works - I asked the question.

Yes but then very condescendingly said you knew my answer. So go on tell me?

If you don’t want to share your ideas, @Quierounlibro , a discussion board seems an odd choice of activity.

Nope. I asked the question, you answer it, then we'll see. Simples.
Would you give a straight answer if one of the other people on this thread asked the same question without the comment?

Yes that's my point

Good comments from European leaders

More reaction from other European leaders now, firstly from Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
He has posted on X to say "Europe has woken up", alongside a photograph of the leaders at the summit earlier today.
Tusk says those present "all speak with one voice about helping Ukraine, the need for close transatlantic cooperation and strengthening the eastern border".
Italy's prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has given her reaction too, and says "the one thing we absolutely cannot afford is a peace [in Ukraine] that does not last".
She continues: "We must be very careful when assessing what is being proposed, particularly in response to this key question: could this peace be violated? Because, unfortunately, we have seen this happen in the past."
And there have been words on X too from outgoing German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who mentions that being "transatlantic allies" in Nato remains "the key for security" in the US, Canada and Europe.
He says the alliance has been strengthened in recent years "with new members and defence spending" and that is "the path we will continue to follow in the future as well".
Dutch Prime Minister Dick Schoof, also on X, reiterates that Europe "must take a greater role in ensuring safety for our continent" and adds that "good transatlantic relations are also indispensable".

Well Russia had better not attack then.

A lot of praise for Starmer and the UK on a lot of US commentator sites. This is how pride in your country should feel. (And still not a flag in sight 😀)

And the leaders are coming together in support from across the political spectrum, which is quite wonderful.

Very eager fingers tonighr Might as well start musing about the next title

Things started to happen…always rattles through threads when times get interesting.

Starmer: On the international stage.

"Presumed next German chancellor Friedrich Merz reacted to today’s summit in London thanking Britain’s prime minister Keir Starmer and French president Emmanuel Macron for their efforts to “bring a lasting and just peace to Ukraine.”
“Your efforts are key to build bridges across the Atlantic. We have to remain united in our goal to end Russia’s war of aggression,” he said."

And Zelenskyy

Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, posted a brief update after today’s talks on his social media accounts, acknowledging “the strong support for Ukraine and our people”.
He said that European leaders were working together to create “a reliable basis for cooperation with America for the sake of real peace and guaranteed security”.
He said that European unity was “at an extremely high level”, not seen in “a long time.”
He also expressed his thanks to “all our friends and partners” for their support.

We should take it as a compliment, just annoying that it fills the thread so quickly

Or : Starmer: working for peace in Ukraine.

Starmers Thatcher moment.

https://bsky.app/profile/dansabbagh.bsky.social/post/3ljgdhkfo222j

Pres Zelenskyy just gave an off camera press conference at Stansted airport. He refused to apologise to Donald Trump after Friday's White House spat - and insisted that the public row in the Oval Office "did not bring any positive or additional".

Story on the @guardian to come...

Good on Zelensky refusing to apologise.

Trump is being very quiet (isn't he?).
He's probably playing golf though.

Just thinking that Starmer is doing a sterling job and wouldn't it stick in Trump's craw if Starmer won a Nobel peace prize...

Yes, he’s playing golf. And Vance is skiing in Vermont. It’s not going well. Lots of people telling him what they think by way of placards and shouting at his motorcade.