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Ukraine Invasion: Part 54

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MagicFox · 16/02/2025 18:23

We're on 54. Slava Ukraini πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
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wholettheturnipsburn · 19/02/2025 23:34

Igotjelly · 19/02/2025 19:44

Medvedev the wank stain tweeting - β€œA Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left." If you'd told me just three months ago that these were the words of the US president, I would have laughed out loud. @realDonaldTrump is 200 percent right. Bankrupt clown…”

Vile drunken old soak

Comments like that make me so angry

MagicFox · 20/02/2025 07:38

Listen to this perfect summary from Sir Alex Younger on Newsnight. Good to refer to for a succinct overview when needed: x.com/implausibleblog/status/1892354488859590675?s=46&t=ZRiOqYBPJdwGCarjKNzCeQ

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 08:00

Has anyone else seen this? Is it accurate?

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈβŒ Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered senior leaders at the Pentagon and throughout the U.S. military to develop plans for cutting 8% (❗️) from the defense budget in each of the next five years, - WP

1dayatatime · 20/02/2025 08:26

@DucklingSwimmingInstructress

Looks to be an accurate report although as with all things whether it actually happens or not is a different question as an 8% cut every year is close to halving the defence budget:

www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/02/19/us-defence-budget-slashed-8pc-a-year-under-hegseth/

And more detailed:

www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2025/02/19/white-house-eyes-annual-8-cut-to-defense-budget-through-2030/

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 08:30

Thank you

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 08:31

I suppose Trump and Musk can arrange the savings to go to themselves.

blueshoes · 20/02/2025 09:07

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-19-2025

Key Takeaways:

  • Russian President Vladimir Putin is reportedly trying to optimize the Russian negotiations delegation to be most effective with the specific individuals whom the United States chooses for its negotiation delegation, likely in an effort to extract maximum concessions from the United States.
  • US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Adviser Michael Waltz reiterated on February 18 that US President Donald Trump's position that the war in Ukraine must end in a way that is "fair, enduring, sustainable, and acceptable to all parties involved" remains unchanged.
  • Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated on February 19 that Ukraine needs either NATO membership or a strong military and security guarantees for a sustainable peace.
  • US Special Representative for Russia and Ukraine Keith Kellogg arrived in Kyiv on February 19 for his first official visit to Ukraine.
  • Ukrainian forces continue to conduct drone strikes against Russian energy facilities supplying the Russian military.
  • Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk and Toretsk, and Russian forces recently advanced near Borova, Siversk, Pokrovsk, Kurakhove, and Velyka Novosilka.
  • Russian federal subjects are reportedly halting their recruitment of foreigners who do not speak Russian for service in the Russian military.
MagicFox · 20/02/2025 10:24

Very good piece by Michael Gove (!) in The Spectator: "Get real: the harsh lessons of our new world disorder"

archive.ph/2025.02.20-011149/www.spectator.co.uk/article/get-real-the-harsh-lessons-of-our-new-world-disorder/

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 10:55

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚑️Putin would 'gladly' meet Trump (kyivindependent.com/putin-gladly-open-to-meeting-trump-says-war-in-ukraine-to-be-worked-out-in-advance/), says war in Ukraine should be 'worked out' in advance.

⚑️ Macron, Starmer to visit Washington (kyivindependent.com/macron-and-starmer-to-visit-washington-next-week-as-both-leaders-reaffirm-support-for-ukraine-in-calls-with-zelensky/) next week as they reaffirm support for Ukraine in calls with Zelensky.

⚑️Starmer to pitch plan (kyivindependent.com/uk-pm-to-present-trump-plan-to-send-30-000-european-troops-to-ukraine-telegraph-reports/) on 30,000 European peacekeepers in Ukraine to Trump, Telegraph reports.

⚑️US promises Europe to maintain (kyivindependent.com/us-to-keep-sanctions-against-russia-until-deal-to-end-war-reached-bloomberg-reports/) Russian sanctions at least until Ukraine peace deal, Bloomberg reports.

⚑️Trump wants (kyivindependent.com/trump-wants-to-resurrect-us-ukraine-rare-earths-deal-despite-kyivs-refusal/) to 'resurrect' US-Ukraine natural resources deal amid Kyiv's objections.
"I think I’m gonna resurrect that deal, you know, we'll see what happens, but I’m gonna resurrect it or things are gonna not make him (President Volodymyr Zelensky) too happy," U.S. President Donald Trump said.

⚑️Trump may seek (kyivindependent.com/trump-may-try-to-make-simplified-resources-deal-with-ukraine-reuters-reports/) simplified resources deal with Ukraine, Reuters reports.

⚑️Trump calls Zelensky 'dictator, (https://kyivindependent.com/trump-calls-zelensky-dictator-warns-of-ukraines-demise-without-elections/)' warns of Ukraine's demise without elections

⚑️ European leaders back Zelensky (kyivindependent.com/european-leaders-back-zelensky-after-trumps-accusations/) after Trump's accusations.

⚑️Russian mass attack targets Ukraine's gas facilities (kyivindependent.com/ukraines-gas-facilities-targeted-in-russian-mass-attack-energy-minister-says/), energy minister says.

⚑️Russia offering (kyivindependent.com/russia-offers-us-deal-on-its-natural-resources-access-to-arctic/) US deal on natural resources, access to Arctic.
Moscow suggested that American oil companies may return to the country, Russian negotiator Kirill Dmitriev said before the talks started in Riyadh.

⚑️Lithuania's president unveils (kyivindependent.com/lithuanias-nauseda-unveils-six-point-plan-to-support-ukraine-strengthen-european-security/) 6-point plan to support Ukraine, strengthen European security.

⚑️Oil prices near one-week high (https://kyivindependent.com/oil-prices-near-one-week-high-amid-russia-supply-disruptions-sanctions-uncertainty/) amid Russia supply disruptions, sanctions uncertainty.
Brent crude settled at $76.04 per barrel, up 20 cents (0.3%), while U.S. West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude closed at $72.25, gaining 40 cents (0.6%), according to Reuters. Both benchmarks reached their highest level since Feb. 11.

⚑️ War has cost Ukraine $320 billion (kyivindependent.com/war-has-cost-320-billion-us-and-eu-covered-two-thirds-zelensky-says/) in weapons, US and EU provided two-thirds, Zelensky says.

⚑️ US provided Ukraine with $100 billion (kyivindependent.com/war-has-cost-320-billion-us-and-eu-covered-two-thirds-zelensky-says/) in aid, not $500 billion, Zelensky says.
"In total, the U.S. separately gave us about $67 billion in weapons, and we received $31.5 billion in budget support," President Volodymyr Zelensky said, adding that Ukraine is grateful for the provided support.
"But one cannot count up to $500 billion and say, 'give us back $500 billion in minerals,' that's not a serious discussion."

Ukraine Business Roundup β€” Trump wants Ukraine's natural resources, and more (https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-business-roundup-trump-wants-ukraines-natural-resources-and-more/)

⚑️ Hungary again blocks EU sanctions (kyivindependent.com/hungary-says-it-negotiated-exemptions-for-patriarch-kirill/) against Moscow Patriarch Kirill.

⚑️Czechia, Poland preparing decision (kyivindependent.com/czechia-poland-preparing-decision-on-status-of-ukrainians-with-temporary-protection-after-ceasefire-wars-end/) on status of Ukrainians with temporary protection after ceasefire, war's end.

A beginner's guide to elections in Ukraine (also suitable for US presidents) (https://kyivindependent.com/a-beginners-guide-to-elections-in-ukraine-also-suitable-for-us-presidents/)
The Kyiv Independent has compiled a list of potential candidates in Ukraine's elections. While the list is purely speculative at this stage, several well-known politicians, military officers, and volunteers could realistically be in the running.

⚑️Belarus exports rapeseed oil (kyivindependent.com/belarus-exports-rapeseed-oil-from-occupied-kherson-to-eu-rfe-rl-investigation-finds/) from occupied Ukrainian territories to EU, RFE/RL investigation finds.

⚑️ US helping Putin escape isolation, Zelensky says (kyivindependent.com/us-helping-putin-out-of-isolation-zelensky-says-after/) after Riyadh talks.

⚑️Russian court issues (kyivindependent.com/russian-court-issues-first-prison-sentence-under-lgbt-extremism-law/) first prison sentence under β€˜LGBT extremism’ law.

British volunteer who lost arm and leg evacuating Ukrainian civilians: β€˜Russia is the enemy. How can you not see it?’ (kyivindependent.com/british-volunteer-who-lost-arm-and-leg-evacuating-ukrainian-civilians-russia-is-the-enemy-how-can-you-not-see-it/)
As a humanitarian aid worker with the Ukrainian NGO "Baza" (the "Base" in Ukrainian), 28-year-old Edward Scott has made multiple trips to the front-line areas to evacuate civilian Ukrainians.
But the mission on Jan. 30 to the embattled city of Pokrovsk in southern Donetsk Oblast was different.

⚑️ 5 killed, 17 injured in Russian attacks (kyivindependent.com/attacks-128/) on Ukraine over past day.

⚑️ Russia launches (kyivindependent.com/attacks-128/) 161 drones, 14 missiles against Ukraine overnight, Air Force says.

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 11:05

UNITED24 Media Telegram Highlights

"We have nothing to shoot down missiles with. At 5 a.m., the commander calls me and says: 'There are eight targets approaching, but we have no air defense missiles,'" said President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Twenty European countries and Canada agreed in Paris to continue supporting Ukraine, DW reports.

❗️[on 18th Feb] Russia asked the US to unblock billions of dollars in frozen assets during negotiations, β€” The Moscow Times

Enough talk β€” time to act. Lithuanian President Gitanas NausΔ—da has proposed a five-point European plan for Ukraine:
β€’ NATO membership should remain on the negotiating table.
β€’ Russia must be held accountable for military actions, and sanctions should remain until the aggression stops.
β€’ Urgent financing of weapons and 10 billion euros for the Ukrainian defense industry.
β€’ Seizure of frozen Russian assets and introduction of tariffs on imports from Russia and Belarus.
β€’ Accelerated accession of Ukraine to the EU, with a target date of 2030.

Zelenskyy had a β€œgood and meaningful” conversation with NATO Secretary General Rutte.

US Special Representative for Ukraine and Russia, Kellogg, who is currently visiting Ukraine, has already met with Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi, as well as the heads of intelligence and special services. The President said his meeting with General Kellogg is scheduled for today.

A new phase of arms deliveries from the DPRK to Russia is expected by the end of March 2025, Daily NK reports.
It includes hundreds of thousands of 122-mm and 152-mm shells and hundreds of ballistic missiles.
In particular, Russia will receive:
β€’ 600-mm KN-25 multiple launch rocket systems with a range of up to 400 km.
β€’ Hundreds of short-range ballistic missiles, including additional KN-23 ballistic missiles.

US Defense Secretary Pete Hagsett has ordered plans to cut the defense budget by 8% annually for the next five years, The Washington Post reports.
Options for reducing military spending must be submitted by February 24. The memorandum lists 17 categories for potential cuts, including operations on the US southern border, nuclear weapons modernization, missile defense, and the purchase of ammunition and drones.

Less than 30,000 troops from EU countries are expected to be deployed in key cities, ports, and critical infrastructure in Ukraine, excluding the eastern territories, according to The Times editor Lisa Brown on the Western plan for a peacekeeping mission.
The plan includes technical monitoring of the border through intelligence, satellite surveillance, and aerial reconnaissance to ensure a complete picture of the situation.
Airspace protection, the restoration of commercial flights, and the capability to track and neutralize air attacks are also planned.
US aircraft based in Romania and Poland will serve as a defensive mechanism, ready to respond to threats, while ground forces will be reinforced along the eastern border.

❗️Official! The State Border Service does not confirm Putin’s statement about the alleged β€œbreakthrough” of the Russian Armed Forces from the Kursk region.
β€œIn the areas where the border units are located, no attempts to break through have been recorded,” spokesman Demchenko told journalists.

The negotiation process will involve both Russia and Ukraine, and no one is excluding Ukraine, Putin said.
More statements from the Russian dictator:
β–ͺ️ He would be happy to meet with Trump, but the meeting must be prepared. He is not yet ready to say when it will take place.
β–ͺ️ Trump promised to quickly resolve the Ukrainian crisis, but after receiving data on the presidency, he changed his position, which is natural.
β–ͺ️ Relations between Russia and the United States are such that a simple meeting over coffee is not enough.
β–ͺ️ Russia has never refused dialogue with Europe or Ukraine. Europeans stopped contacts with Moscow themselves, and Kyiv even banned itself from negotiating with Russia.
β–ͺ️ Mediators in the dialogue between Russia and the United States are not needed. On the American side, β€œcompletely different people” participated in the negotiationsβ€”without bias or condemnation.
β–ͺ️ The purpose of the US-Russia meeting in Riyadh was to build trust. Without increasing trust between Russia and the US, resolving the β€œUkrainian crisis” is impossible.

The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine conducted a successful special operation. Explosions occurred in the Russian Armed Forces while pilots were using FPV drone glasses.
Intelligence officers purchased a large batch of these glasses, planted explosives in them, and equipped them with a remote detonation function. The glasses were delivered to the troops through Russian volunteers.
Dozens of Russian pilots were injured. The sender of the parcels left the Russian Federation.

Vision correction in Ukrainian.

Zelenskyy thanked world leaders and politicians for their support after Trump’s statement about a β€œdictator”:
β€’ German Chancellor Olaf Scholz: Denying Zelenskyy’s democratic legitimacy is wrong and dangerous. The impossibility of holding elections during the war fully aligns with Ukraine’s Constitution and legislation.
β€’ Finnish President Alexander Stubb: We support the Constitution of Ukraine and the democratically elected President Zelenskyy.
β€’ Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr StΓΈre: Trump’s statement about Zelenskyy being a dictator is deeply unfair.
β€’ Czech President Petr Pavel: Calling the president of a country fighting for its survival a dictator is the height of cynicism.
β€’ British Conservative Leader Kemi Badenoch: Zelenskyy is not a dictator; he is the democratically elected leader of Ukraine.
β€’ US Senator Chuck Schumer: It is disgusting to see an American president openly speaking out against an ally and siding with a thug like Putin.

β€œRussia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion, taking hundreds of thousands of lives,” officials remind Trump one by one who the killer is and who the victim is.
Former U.S. Vice President during Trump’s first term, Mike Pence, also defended Ukraine after Trump’s statements, saying that β€œpeace must be built on truth.”

Ukraine will held elections as soon as this war ends.

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 11:13

Kyiv Post Telegram Highlights

Lavrov hails Trump for blaming NATO expansion for Ukraine warβ€”aligning with Kremlin’s narrative.
www.kyivpost.com/post/47428

Russia’s delegation for Riyadh talks brought a collective 76 years of high-level government service to the table compared to that of the US representatives whose experience was measured in weeks.
www.kyivpost.com/analysis/47435

US Vice President JD Vance warns Zelensky he will regret 'badmouthing' Trump and condemns his 'atrocious' response to peace talks β€” Daily Mail

Today Ukrainians commemorate the memory of the Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred
11 years ago, tragic events unfolded in the center of Kyiv. Back then, dozens of peaceful protesters fell victim to a brutal shooting.
February 20 became the most tragic day of Ukraine’s Revolution of Dignity in 2014. But it was precisely then that it became clear that this nation would not give up in the struggle for justice and freedom.

Eleven years ago, in the heart of Kyiv, photojournalist Jakub Szymczuk witnessed history unfold before the world’s eyes. The events he captured, for which he received an award from Grand Press Photo, led directly to the culmination of the Revolution of Dignity, with Moscow-backed President Viktor Yanukovych hastily fleeing Ukraine.
That day marked the true beginning of Russia’s ongoing war against Ukraine.
Read his interview and reflections on these events on our website: www.kyivpost.com/post/47433

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 11:19

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights

Amid Trump’s statements, Zelensky says constructive cooperation with the United States is crucial for Ukraine. The president is scheduled to meet with U.S. presidential envoy Keith Kellogg [today].

❗️Putin claimed that Russian troops crossed the border with Ukraine in the Kursk region and began an offensive. The Center for Countering Disinformation refutes this statement.
According to Putin, Russian forces are β€œadvancing along the entire line of contact.” However, the CCD emphasizes that, in reality, there was only an attempt by a Russian sabotage and reconnaissance group (DRG) to enter Ukrainian territory, and this group has been eliminated.

Elon Musk...

Ukrainians wouldn’t be Ukrainians if they didn’t turn even such an unpleasant situation into a wave of memes

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Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 18:06

Today’s episode of Silicon Curtain is really interesting with Timothy Ash, specialist in European and Russian economics and fellow at Chatham House. Talking about the current situation, US position and what might happen with funding for Ukraine if the US pulls the plug. Very sobering, take away is NATO is dead.

He also raised the prospect that if offered enough it’s not unthinkable that Trump would potentially sell military hardware to the Russians.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 18:17

I imagine another route will be Musk accessing the military data and then it making its way to Russia.

PerkingFaintly · 20/02/2025 18:42

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/02/2025 18:17

I imagine another route will be Musk accessing the military data and then it making its way to Russia.

Or making it's way to people who will happily work in the Russian interest.

That's already happened.

Musk is on personal phone call terms with Putin, who can run rings round him.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 18:48

From Sky News:

US refusing to co-sponsor UN resolution backing Ukraine's territorial integrity - report
Following an earlier report claiming the US is going against the G7 ahead of the third anniversary of the war, it appears Washington is now distancing itself from a draft UN resolution.

Citing three diplomatic sources, Reuters news agency reports the US is refusing to co-sponsor a UN resolution backing Ukraine's territorial integrity and demanding Russia withdraws its troops.

The vote on the resolution is due on Monday - the day of the third anniversary - and the US has "consistently sponsored" similar movements in support of a "just peace in Ukraine", one of the sources said.
Another source told Reuters the resolution is being sponsored by more than 50 countries.

"For now, the situation is they [the US] won't sign it," a source added.
The US diplomatic mission to the UN in Geneva did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

We reported at 15.15 the Financial Times has spoken to five sources who said the US is against calling Russia "aggressors" in a G7 statement due to be released on Monday.

heldinadream · 20/02/2025 18:48

Anyone watching the White House presser?
I want to throw the TV into the sea.
Load of lying, gaslighting, duplicitous bullshit.
I'm so angry.
I can hardly bear to listen.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 18:50

It’s honestly excruciating. I want to punch the lot of them.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 21:10

There’s an Ukraine war special Question Time on at the moment. Worth a watch. Ben Wallace being his usual clear eyed self.

WinterMorn · 20/02/2025 21:31

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 21:10

There’s an Ukraine war special Question Time on at the moment. Worth a watch. Ben Wallace being his usual clear eyed self.

I am recording this and busy having it out with various Kremlin apologists on Facebook. It’s exhausting.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 21:31

WinterMorn · 20/02/2025 21:31

I am recording this and busy having it out with various Kremlin apologists on Facebook. It’s exhausting.

Isn’t it!? I feel like there are so many idiots crawling out of the woodwork.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 21:33

There’s some American woman in a yellow jacket on the panel (missed her name) and she’s parroting Trump line for line but can’t even name the occupied territories.

WinterMorn · 20/02/2025 21:37

I look forward to getting stuck into QT later with my Easter Egg! Right now I am being called a Nazi lover and being told to get back into the kitchen.

minsmum · 20/02/2025 21:39

The American woman is an idiot, she has just said that Putin should keep Crimea an will then give back the Donbas etc. Which is not what Trump said

Igotjelly · 20/02/2025 21:42

minsmum · 20/02/2025 21:39

The American woman is an idiot, she has just said that Putin should keep Crimea an will then give back the Donbas etc. Which is not what Trump said

I notice she has that same slimy sneer that all the Trump minions seem to have.

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