Woman evicted from NHS hospital ward after being stuck for 18 months

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c897ew0ekp4o

She is her own worst enemy

She's been offered places able to meet her needs- she doesnt want them

Care in the community that just doesnt work- thats not what she wants.

When an advocate establishes what she does want, it changes

Sad case really,she's become instiutionalised

Probably the mother is similar.

Really sadly, you'd be surprised by how many people would prefer to be in hospital. This actually breaks my heart because hospitals are stinky and awful.

People like this have usually been failed from early childhood by their parents. If her mother was capable of taking some responsibility for her daughter then her daughter probably wouldn't have these complex mental health issues in the first place.

It says that the thought of going to the placement made her feel suicidal due to the location, so was it suitable really?

I have worked as a case holder before,

This lady would have likely been given a huge amount of leeway, before it came to the final result of having to contact the police aftrer 18 months.

She has a personality disorder and is most likely, very challenging to work with and particular about where she wants to live. Unfortunately, in this society there is no perfect place to live.

The lady in a placement now but police have been called out again, several times. This is a woman with severe mental health problems and I think its unfair how the BBC can run a negative article yet the NHS and Adult Social Care cannot defend themselves without breaking confidentiality

what sane person would choose to stay in a hospital bed for months, over supported accommodation?

It's common for those with EUPD to want to be in hospital even if there is no need. They feel safe and enjoy the attention given. It's sad really.

Hospital should have got her out months ago. Ridiculous that someone has the power to refuse a place offered elsewhere & bed block others.

Yep this, she has a unstable personality disorder.

From what was said in the article it appears both mother and daughter are of low IQ. Also, this woman is clearly extremely difficult to manage, lashing out at people and self harming. I doubt her mother can cope with that, since the care home she was in prior to her hospital admission refused to have her back and said it could no longer meet her needs.

Just incase anyone isn’t stuck having to deal with ‘social care’ at the moment (mine through my disabled elderly mum). Just to save everyone the trauma of what I’ve had to go through these past 2 years… The problem with social care is that they privatised 99% of the care provision. So if someone that has care needs that doesn’t meeting the business plan of any care provider, then there is no one to give the care! I’ve had 10 care companies in less than 2 years to give home care services to my mum. Those care companies want the ‘easy clients’. It’s all a complete mess and I honestly don’t know how the country is still going!

The article states that Jessie is unable to communicate effectively.

I see all that tat as completely inappropriate for a hospital.
How can it be kept clean?
A hoarder nightmare of rubbish and creepy dolls.
This woman is probably the sort who would have been happy in the old mental homes.

As Pp have mentioned, closing these to save money has been a disaster.

There are some people for whom a mental home probably meets their needs.

Fed, looked after, kept safe, and often they were in nice grounds.

( we went to a dog show at one when they were being phased out and it looked like a nice place.)

The issue there was that the family didn't want to pay for residential care.

Just to point out that the family are not required to pay for the care, nor should they be.
I assume you mean that the family didn't want the patient's own assets being used to pay for their care, i.e. they would not facilitate this.

This woman seems to be an absolute pain in the arse. Society is fucked

You’d be surprised. I worked in a hospital (not in the UK) where a woman refused to leave. She had no health needs but was in the process of suing the hospital. She’d go out and meet friends for lunch and make the staff’s life very difficult.
I’ve also worked in the UK and experienced two others in the same hospital. One who was a ‘professional overstayer’ and another who didn’t want to return to her home country as she preferred the UK.

Yes I'm well aware of how adult social care funding works thanks.

A lot of people aren't though so I was summarising the situation.

plus a lot of families do see it as them having to pay for care as they have already mentally claimed their inheritance.

Clearly more to it than this article portrays. I'm amazed the hospital didn't wheel her onto a hospital transport vehicle and drop her off at the council offices to make a homeless application. (Happens regularly in our LA). Then you get a back and forth between social services and housing.

The fact that she was just allowed to stay in hospital is atrocious.

This and other complex and non-complex cases cost the NHS an absolute fortune. The lovely clean private hospitals never have to deal with this sort of thing, that is one reason why you’d never get the same standards in an NHS hospital. NHS policy for a long time now has been to get people out of hospital as soon as they are no longer acutely unwell, and they can continue to recover at home. This often doesn’t work for many reasons. To be able to give people high quality and increasingly personalised public services that require significant amounts of one to one care is going to cost us a lot as the taxpayer.

The article mentions an on going police investigation into her behaviour at the place that refused to have her back so I don’t blame them for not having her back.They have to think of the other patients.

About 2 years ago DM fell and broke her hip at her residential home.
They couldn't take her back as she would need nursing care.
When the hospital had done what they could medically with mum
they gave us 10 days to find a nursing home. Otherwise they would have
chosen some place that they found and discharged her with no guilt.

How come it took 18 months. Yes the lady has mental health issues
but I'm sure being in a hospital bed would add to them.

She was evicted from her home, so the stuff around her bed represents her entire worldly goods - hardly hoarder territory, most people even in minimalist homes would struggle to fit all their belongings into a hospital cubicle.

So she can threaten suicide to manipulate people?

Most of us have to work and strive to live where we want to live, we can’t threaten suicide because we want to live in a luxurious home waited on hand foot and finger or wherever she wants to live?

Her mother needs to step up.
It’s her daughter after all.

She's able to send abusive emails of such severity that the police are investigating though.

Quite it’s ridiculous.