Thread 15 Starmer - Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

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@cardibach - confirmed how self serving Badenoch is.

She was, and this is important when we talk about failure, the Secretary of State for Business and Trade.

As such, she was DIRECTLY responsible for business regulation, and in particular, the choices made on EU law retained as "Assimilated Law" in our legal system post Brexit. She was the person responsible for delivery and policy of that in the last Government, as well as the trade programme for new trade agreements post Brexit. She did not conclude one actual free trade agreement, nor did she conclude or develop a policy on regulation of business to drive growth.

Her credibility is NIL. If I were a Conservative voter I would feel gypped. What a con.

Why lie about things that can be disproved?

Because they know most people won’t. And most of those won’t believe it if someone else does. Saying it is enough.

"She was, and this is important when we talk about failure, the Secretary of State for Business and Trade."

Must admit I had completely forgotten this.

Don't forget it. She is directly responsible. Her cheek is unbelievable. As if voters are so stupid to be bought off by her cheap culture war meat.

She had her hands on power that could have grown the economy of the UK. Now she is powerless she claims to have insight to change things.

Outrageous bullshit.

One of my first landlords when we were renting was a nightmare who controlled the hot water and would only put it on for 2 hours late evening. He also threatened to evict us if we made an official complaint about this and noise from his flat. I told him if he did I would notify the police about the weed he was growing in his flat. The noise stopped and we got hot water for when dh got home from the building site. It was as far from professional as it was possible to get, but dh and I needed cheap housing and this was not the worst landlord we had. I'd like to say standards have risen, but for those with the least financial stability, I don't think it has.

Being able to afford a proper rental where we could have hot water when we wanted was amazing, and one I have insured as mortgage holders is the boiler.

Because she is incapable of honesty?

And because someone will believe her.

Why is Nadine on QT? She's utterly irrelevant these days. I watched her say a load of rubbish about hospitals under the Tories, and that they came to government in 2019 and that was enough for me.

The Beeb seems to be having difficulty in booking current Tory politicians onto its programmes at the moment. This is twice Dorries has appeared in the last few weeks. She was on Newsnight a couple of weeks ago.

Its a mystery, much like Farage... surely there must be some self serving Tory MPs who wish to speak up?

I notice Badenoch isn't willing, nor is Jeremy Hunt to apologise for the dire state of Maternity Services, though personally i think causing the additional deaths of 1000s of babies should be worthy of more than an apology.

Conservative politicians know they will be asked about the last 14 years - little wonder they aren't lining up to go on.
Dorries is a bit of a loose cannon which might draw programme bookers to her. I have always enjoyed how Johnson's cabinet pretended that they were the first Conservatives in power for years.

I have just started watching 'Severance', maybe they have an innie and an outie live

More likely just a very selective memory, there were no parties, it was just cake

I live next to a tenanted house. The landlord is totally exploitative. If the tenants complain, she evicts them. This means I have had four different neighbours in two years. Their complaints are reasonable. They are not paying a small sum to live there but she is the definition of the worst kind of landlord. My wish is that she sells up, but she is so greedy that she cannot accept the price she gets offered and actually maintain her property either, so the cycle continues.

From Reuters

Reasonably chunky drop in gilt yields this morning.

The GREAT PANIC of early 2025 has been wiped out.

Oh dear, that’s going to upset some doom mongers.

Thats all purely down to Ms Reeves and her amazing handling of the economy... though i suspect the usual MN doomsters will say the increases were ALL down to her but the falls are due to events in the USA.....

• See also inflation and when it goes up / comes down

https://www.teletrade.org/analytics/market-analysis/market-news/4027255

They will find something else to shout 'Resign!' about, you dyed-in-the-wool labourite

I think there is some comfort in assuming the UK Chancellor has some sort of control over the economy…
China growth figures look better than expected. Their huge stimulus in September seems to have worked. I guess there you have it in black and white how more of an autocracy translates to “control”.

MN has been packed in recent weeks, with posters, both new and old saying she/labour are a disaster, will ruin the UK blah blah blah.

The Chinese figures back her decision to go to China, the UK needs a pragmatic approach when dealing with China.

Those threads are easy clickbait, just shout election, resign, polls in the full knowledge that it is not going to happen and you are safe from explaining Reform's non policies or mention Badenoch and her new ideas

The thing is (and you would have thought folk might have noticed) no amount of frothing of the masses is going to create the conditions needed for an election. (Or put another way, the UK doesn't do revolutions).

I haven't seen much from the poster who felt that because a minority Labour government was bounced into an election 2 months early in 1979, that it was exactly the same as a Labour government with a majority of 165.

Yes, it is odd how that one has pretty much vanished along with a few others.

Eta: didn't that one turn out to be a PBP or am I getting my hairy handed posters confused?