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What retailer do you think will go bust next?

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good96 · 12/01/2025 17:17

My money is on Poundstretcher. Went into my local one today. Shelves empty, looking old and dirty and prices aren’t really cheap for a discount retailer…

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auderesperare · 13/01/2025 22:00

blueshoes · 13/01/2025 18:29

@auderesperare I completely agree with your post.

The UK economy is already having such a hard time, without having the general population talk down our high street stores/retailers.

It is like encouraging a run on a bank. Who would buy from a retailer (e.g. online sales) if they thought the retailer was going under? It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It is deeply depressing and will only encourage the dominance of the likes of unethical retailers like Amazon and Shein.

Absolutely. C4 Dispatches last year found workers supplying Shein were paid as little as 3p per garment while working 18 hour shifts. I don’t understand how they are allowed to operate to the tune of £2bn in the UK. A UK business would be closed down and prosecuted and rightly so. I don’t know how people can live with themselves knowing not only that, but how foreign governments unfriendly to Britain are working to destabilise our economy.
Yet people mindlessly slag off businesses which are vital to our already difficult economic growth on the basis of grubby floors in their local shop or empty-ish shelves without ever stopping to think what it takes to build and run an enterprise of that scale, the jobs it supports and the families it feeds.
It’s so easy to knock things down and so hard to build enterprises of the size of these retailers. I’m not saying they are perfect or can’t improve but show a bit of joined up thinking, people.

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:01

Having been to M&S today there were lots of empty shelves in the beauty section which was odd..And my beloved Boots (I have to now agree with PP) was suddenly looking really scruffy and they need to sort the tester system out in the make up section as everyone tucks into the non testers. It gives it a shoddy feel.

Although new exciting premium skincare ranges which was good. So there's hope.

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:02

Debrathom · 13/01/2025 21:25

My nearest White Company was absolutely rammed just before Christmas.

Yes White Company must be going great guns. Odd. It's really expensive and the clothes can be oddly fitting.

choc1cheese1 · 13/01/2025 22:02

I think we all need to support our local high street shops and their hard working, friendly staff!

Oioisavaloy27 · 13/01/2025 22:07

I'm surprised Next is still going their quality is absolutely abysmal now.

Youngheartsalittletogetherness · 13/01/2025 22:09

Oioisavaloy27 · 13/01/2025 22:07

I'm surprised Next is still going their quality is absolutely abysmal now.

I'm sure I read somewhere that they made a billion pound profit.

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:10

auderesperare · 13/01/2025 22:00

Absolutely. C4 Dispatches last year found workers supplying Shein were paid as little as 3p per garment while working 18 hour shifts. I don’t understand how they are allowed to operate to the tune of £2bn in the UK. A UK business would be closed down and prosecuted and rightly so. I don’t know how people can live with themselves knowing not only that, but how foreign governments unfriendly to Britain are working to destabilise our economy.
Yet people mindlessly slag off businesses which are vital to our already difficult economic growth on the basis of grubby floors in their local shop or empty-ish shelves without ever stopping to think what it takes to build and run an enterprise of that scale, the jobs it supports and the families it feeds.
It’s so easy to knock things down and so hard to build enterprises of the size of these retailers. I’m not saying they are perfect or can’t improve but show a bit of joined up thinking, people.

Agree. But perhaps it's good to point these things out. At least we are still going in the shops. If they stay shoddy then people will just turn even more to online.

I live near a bustling market town with a great mix of chain and independent shops. New shops opening all the time (chains and otherwise) and the place is tidy, clean and vibrant. The shops are well cared for. There's loads of footfall and it's always busy. So it can be done...its all been achieved through council planning in the last 10 years.

The dirty shops I see are in out of town shopping areas which originally took the trade from towns ironically.

CrowleyKitten · 13/01/2025 22:12

Viviennemary · 12/01/2025 18:17

Thorntons have already closed a lot of its shops.

thorntons have felt out of date for a very long time now

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:12

Youngheartsalittletogetherness · 13/01/2025 22:09

I'm sure I read somewhere that they made a billion pound profit.

They've been clever diversifying with things like Costa to get people in and their online click and collect system is good. They are good chosing where to put new shops too.

CrowleyKitten · 13/01/2025 22:15

DogInATent · 12/01/2025 18:25

Argos - no idea how they're still going in the face of next-day-everything from Amazon.

Pizza Express - keeps on surviving despite the huge debt mountain. It's fundamentally a good business but the level of debt has to eventually overwhelm it.

sometimes you can get same day delivery from Argos. last time I ordered something from them it came in about two hours, and I live somewhere fairly rural.

justasking111 · 13/01/2025 22:16

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:10

Agree. But perhaps it's good to point these things out. At least we are still going in the shops. If they stay shoddy then people will just turn even more to online.

I live near a bustling market town with a great mix of chain and independent shops. New shops opening all the time (chains and otherwise) and the place is tidy, clean and vibrant. The shops are well cared for. There's loads of footfall and it's always busy. So it can be done...its all been achieved through council planning in the last 10 years.

The dirty shops I see are in out of town shopping areas which originally took the trade from towns ironically.

We are similar to you a real mix of chain and independent shops.

The secret here is there's basically one landlord for the whole town, the shops, hotels all have to defer to them. The landlord decides who can and can't lease on the high street, shopping mall, retail parks. It's an aristocratic family. They've done a pretty good job on the whole since the 1860s.

CrowleyKitten · 13/01/2025 22:18

Upwiththelark76 · 12/01/2025 18:29

This ⬆️
A monopoly where some folk don’t have the option to travel to cheaper supermarkets especially the elderly .
Co-Op is awful and hugely over priced . Wish there was competition for them .

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a friend of mine lives in a small town where most people are far from well off, and they have a small co op, and a small sainsburys. when what would suit the demographic more would be something like a Lidl or an Aldi. it's predatory.

justasking111 · 13/01/2025 22:21

CrowleyKitten · 13/01/2025 22:18

a friend of mine lives in a small town where most people are far from well off, and they have a small co op, and a small sainsburys. when what would suit the demographic more would be something like a Lidl or an Aldi. it's predatory.

If there's sufficient footfall they will appear.

Lidl do ask people to contact them with suggestions for sites that are suitable.

BooneyBeautiful · 13/01/2025 22:22

Dotto · 12/01/2025 18:09

A lot more people are having their medication dispensed online & sent via post now.

Which is a shame as we need to keep the local pharmacies going for advice, antibiotics (for certain conditions). I often ring a pharmacy if I need some health advice.

auderesperare · 13/01/2025 22:25

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:10

Agree. But perhaps it's good to point these things out. At least we are still going in the shops. If they stay shoddy then people will just turn even more to online.

I live near a bustling market town with a great mix of chain and independent shops. New shops opening all the time (chains and otherwise) and the place is tidy, clean and vibrant. The shops are well cared for. There's loads of footfall and it's always busy. So it can be done...its all been achieved through council planning in the last 10 years.

The dirty shops I see are in out of town shopping areas which originally took the trade from towns ironically.

I agree that it certainly can be done. It’s great that you have a thriving high street. I live in a small city and we don’t. But the next door town has a brilliant high street. Same local authority but the people who live in the town are fiercely protective of their independent retailers and support them.
It’s great to have a mix of big stores and small independent retailers. We need to do more to help and encourage the small independents. Ecommerce is really important to the economy too so I would never knock ethical ecommerce. It’s a brilliantly flexible way for people to launch an entrepreneurial career. It’s often great for women who want to start businesses and who have other responsibilities or who want to test a business concept and work on it alongside paid employment. it’s not capital intensive. Choice, convenience and flexibility are all to be encouraged. I have no problem with capitalism and with supply and demand. BUT there needs to be a level playing field. Allowing foreign-owned businesses, who don’t abide by the standards we set for own companies and who are exempt from taxes and postal charges, will ultimately do more harm than good to our economy.

I’m all for free trade and opening commerce up but everyone should be required to play by the same rules and meet the same legal and consumer protection standards. People have more power than they think they do over this.

AJLC · 13/01/2025 22:28

Homebase. It's lines got blurred. Started off as predominantly DIY but now trying to be The Range and Dunelm. Always empty, bloody expensive

Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 22:30

auderesperare · 13/01/2025 22:25

I agree that it certainly can be done. It’s great that you have a thriving high street. I live in a small city and we don’t. But the next door town has a brilliant high street. Same local authority but the people who live in the town are fiercely protective of their independent retailers and support them.
It’s great to have a mix of big stores and small independent retailers. We need to do more to help and encourage the small independents. Ecommerce is really important to the economy too so I would never knock ethical ecommerce. It’s a brilliantly flexible way for people to launch an entrepreneurial career. It’s often great for women who want to start businesses and who have other responsibilities or who want to test a business concept and work on it alongside paid employment. it’s not capital intensive. Choice, convenience and flexibility are all to be encouraged. I have no problem with capitalism and with supply and demand. BUT there needs to be a level playing field. Allowing foreign-owned businesses, who don’t abide by the standards we set for own companies and who are exempt from taxes and postal charges, will ultimately do more harm than good to our economy.

I’m all for free trade and opening commerce up but everyone should be required to play by the same rules and meet the same legal and consumer protection standards. People have more power than they think they do over this.

I totally agree. And Amazon etc need to pay more somehow. Or bricks and mortar shops pay less in rates (for example) or given incentives.

Fontofallknowledge23 · 13/01/2025 22:37

tailinthejam · 12/01/2025 17:33

Boots & WH Smith would be my guesses. Although I think WHS is propped up by their monopoly presence at airports and motorway service stations.

I can assure you Boots definitely isn’t going under. They are doing very well.

SnidelyWhiplash · 13/01/2025 22:39

My local Boots is fab and always really busy.

CrowleyKitten · 13/01/2025 22:43

oakleaffy · 12/01/2025 18:55

Body Shop used to make a fantastic hand cream {Hemp} - it's the only cream that really suits my hands.
{Tried lots of others}
Body shop changed the formula, made it vegan {took out the beeswax} and it's nothing like the old formula.

Lots of people say the same.

I feel the same about their hemp lip balm. it kept getting smaller and more expensive, but it worked well, so I kept getting it. then they changed the formula, and I've never bought it since (this was decades ago though)

iciclemelts · 13/01/2025 22:43

LuluBlakey1 · 12/01/2025 18:00

Seasalt must be struggling

I think Morrisons will downsize their number of stores

Fenwicks and John Lewis .

Fenwicks in Newcastle is almost always 90% empty and lost 35,000,000 by itself last year.

I can assure you Morrisons is going nowhere anytime soon. On average week takings is 200k, week before Christmas takings £500k December 23rd (single day) profit was £750k. In a small town 20 mins from Glasgow. One stores recent takings. 😉

AmateurExpertSkincare · 13/01/2025 23:07

Gosh I love Boots, spend between £45 and £80 a month stocking up on skin, hair and bath/body essentials. I do agree with a comment a few pages ago re the stark difference of city stores and town and more rural ones - my local one is often empty of both people and a lot of stock but the city centre ones are booming - so much so I find them quite overstimulating and shop online for what I can’t get in my local. I’ve got about £200 in points with no idea what I’m saving them for but they’re just so easy to rack up. Especially with the likes of beauty tech - regular offers that get you £40-£60 in points off a £250-£300 item to me makes the prices much cheaper then Sephora, spaceNK and the online ones ever offer. So I’m quite suprised at the comments re their prices. I wouldn’t be suprised or disappointed if the smaller ones did ever go, I also think that more people who shop in boots know what they’re going for. I would go to Sephora or SNK if I wanted to try something new and look around. Even with Sephora though I will always wait, make a list and shop in US stores due to their benefits programme and freebies. I would expect to see Superdrug go before Boots but I don’t base that on anything specific beyond persona opinion, just thought it’s always been a bit naff and poor quality.

Next and M&S have followed very similar change programmes on very similar timescales for me recently. They’ve really maximised what brands they’re stocking to appeal to a younger audience and even their own ranges (more M&S) I think are better than ever with nicer options. M&S have also recently got support from a lot of influencers, both ads and non-ads, and the ones who aren’t just doing it to try and get a deal. I’d say this is the case cross 25-45 age bracket on socials. I’m shopping there more than ever though and think they’ve really turned around for the better (mostly). Re M&S prices - I think they’re quite reasonable, especially when Primark is selling coats for £60.

JL I think are also appealing to a younger crowd too, I’ve started shopping there a lot more recently especially for more premium perfume etc. Also think if you shop in store for the likes of perfume you get so many freebies and samples like it used to be everywhere, I got a mid range perfume not long ago and got 7 2 ml samples in all different scents, a 5ml sample, mascara, make up bag etc etc. Then the benefit of their monthly rewards which usually covers a free make up item every month and I don’t spent a severe amount over the year. I also love their beauty masterclass events each year. In terms of clothes though I do agree they seem to be cramming all sorts in and can’t really decide what direction they want to go in - it is my shop of choice for your LK Bennett’s and such like though.

Whittards?? I know they went bust around the financial crash and then were saved again a few years later, but lately they seem to be closing stores in popular cities and opening ones elsewhere - they closed the one close to me but then the closest outlet one sells new stock that has long dates on so not really missing out. I think they have very similar operating model to Hotel Chocolat, no idea if they’re owned by the same people without googling and not aware of their actual financial status (I try to avoid looking due to previous work in tax investigation as I hate it all!).

Peacocks I’ve no idea how they’ve managed to survive after 2x administrations last time I was aware, no idea how they hold on with what they sell. They’d never get a penny off me for personal reasons (they pay redundancy @ 50p a week to a family member who was a manager for them around their first administration - no idea how they got away with it and I think she’ll be long gone before she ever sees it all).

Agree re the likes of some of the pound shops. To the Sayers question - still going strong in my small area, we’ve got a handful. Pound bakery as well though who I believe are the same people. And most things aren’t a pound.

LuluBlakey1 · 13/01/2025 23:10

iciclemelts · 13/01/2025 22:43

I can assure you Morrisons is going nowhere anytime soon. On average week takings is 200k, week before Christmas takings £500k December 23rd (single day) profit was £750k. In a small town 20 mins from Glasgow. One stores recent takings. 😉

Not the same picture in every store- one local to us will close- it often has shelves not stocked for weeks with basic Morrison's lines. Freezers leaking for several years, its disgusting. It is being run into the ground in favour of a larger store about a mile away. They are definitely cutting stores.

FrangipaneMincies · 13/01/2025 23:14

Definitely agree on Argos.

Peacocks, maybe? Overpriced and not great clothes.

Crikeyalmighty · 13/01/2025 23:21

@angela1952 ooh I hope so -

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