Seeing that Repulsive Nigel Farage everywhere now

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I don’t like any of them. I’m politically hornless but seeing this turd getting more and more popular would actually make me leave the country.

He says what alot of people are thinking...hes hitting the mark.

This is classic Farage - those who support him aren't the type who have traditionally been involved in fox-hunting, but they will blindly defend him on this issue because he will tell them at fox-hunting is a part of our British culture that the "woke left" (and probably immigrants) have stolen from us. And before you know it, his working class and middle class supporters are backing fox-hunting, which ultimately only benefits the upper class.
He's not "for the people" but he has a way of convincing the people that they are for Farage and whatever he tells them, even things that are of no benefit to them.

Turkeys for Christmas.

Ok and you also think they are realistic?

Zero illegal immigration for example?

Well, yes, but in the absence of those candidates I would suggest that legitimisation of snake oil salesmen isn’t really the way to go just because they are happy to appeal to whatever is a common denominator no matter how low it goes. Reform and those who populate it are playing to the most basic instincts regardless of what actual consequence plays out - if you’re not in line to receive money directly from reform then you’re being fleeced.

Oh no I can't comment on the riots sentences I don't know if they are right or wrong but... I don't think the optics are good when we have people on TV saying their violent ex who held a knife to thier throat and that of other women are being released early to free up prison space.

It's a conundrum isn't it? Who'd want to be a politician? I certainly wouldnt. After what happen to Jo Cox and David Ames I can understand why no one would want to stand for election. The sad fact is we are so desperately in need of good people. I never thought I'd miss Dennis Skinner, but he was a firebrand who had the courage of his convictions. Now we have instantly forgettable lightweights.
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I think starmer has totally fucked up as well

We live in hope.

Maybe, but he reportedly already tried to get German citizenship and then US residency and nobody seemed to want him.

Agree

To be fair, I don't think Keir Starmer was holding many surgeries in his constituency either - there were complaints about him being unavailable in the Camden New Journal well before the general election. Ed Miliband only seems to offer telephone surgeries to his Doncaster constituents.

So you don't think those policies are realistic then?

And how do you think they could do that?

Can I ask why, in the entire time that Starmer’s Labour were the main opposition, and had published not one policy on anything, their supporters vehemently and vociferously stated that they did not need to and they were only needed in the run up to a general election but the same doesn’t apply to Reform now they are becoming the potential opposition in the next election or even party in power. If Labour supporters can support Starmers ‘vision’ for four years with no idea what they were actually going to be voting on until 6 weeks before the election, why can’t reform supporters? As a Labour support, presumably you were supporting the principle of high taxes for the ‘rich’, big state, union/worker power, increased migration etc with no idea what the actual policies were so why can’t a reform supporters support the principles of low taxes, small state, decreased migration, business power etc

I think Farage will do his best to give the British people what they want. He loves the UK and so do I.

He is odious. I love the way he has fooled the nation. He uses immigration as a ruse to stop people noticing that people like him..elite, rich, corporations etc are making life shit for ordinary people. He's very sneaky and clever, not to be trusted. If he becomes PM here god knows what would happen.

It will improve.

I think the satire has been lost on you.

God I hope so! I’d go wave you all off!

He won't be PM and he knows it. He is merely the catalyst for change. Farage is well aware his role is as the dissembler. He is a good orator and has a character well suited to that purpose. But show me anything he has built? In the wake of traditional conservatism, Reform may well be the party that builds a right-wing consensus in a world where democracy is under pressure, but it will not be with Farage or Tice at the helm. It will be with people with different skills and most probably names we do not yet know. And I think there is a very real change they will come to power in the next seven years. I would go as far as to say it is a certainty with the right leadership.

This has been proposed by a number of senior Tories as well. How does the country you live in now cope without being a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights?

Wow, get a grip snowflake.

I don’t live in Europe but we have our own Human Rights Acts. However the UK government would knowingly be in breach of the Good Friday Agreement if it withdrew from the ECHR. The Tories wanted to leave the ECHR because they couldn’t make their Rwanda process work whilst still in it.

Actually it was the whole 'we'll make people pay for their end of life care to end the care crisis!' Manifesto commitment.

And no one wants to contemplate doing that, so that's why she lost a potential 100 seat majority.

It doesn't matter that they are 'thick' in your eyes. Whether you are 'thick' or 'educated' your vote has just as much weight as anyone else's. The 'thick' person leads a very different life to you - he doesn't need to justify his vote to anyone, he doesn't have to read a manifesto, he doesn't need to tell you why he's voting the way he does. We need to UNDERSTAND WHY REFORM GETS HIS VOTE. Why is Labour not getting his vote?