Seeing that Repulsive Nigel Farage everywhere now

[stonejam]

I don’t like any of them. I’m politically hornless but seeing this turd getting more and more popular would actually make me leave the country.

Oakeshott is absolute poison. Katy Hopkins with hair extensions and a rich boyfriend.🤮🤮🤮

We’re not British and have left the uk - Brexit being a major part in our decision making.

History?

In the 30s Nigel fucking Farage would have been sucking up to Mosley, Hitler, and Mussolini.

The cheerleaders for an evil ideology our forebears defeated.

I disagree. The last thing we need is political parties playing at being reform 2.0. Despite tabloid goading, the majority of this country are centrist regardless of the issue at hand.

Reform have a few years now to make themselves credible, they’ve not got off to a great start in fairness and are far too open to criticism. Nigel’s tactic of blustering about being offended or threatened is going to get old incredibly fast.

I have no issue with naming idiocy, racism, xenophobia or hypocrisy when I see it. How it makes someone ‘feel’ isn’t really my concern, certainly not that I should sugar coat it enough that some blowhard can keep feeling great about their puffed up superiority complex.

NMW and tax thresholds are two different things. The NMW is already well above the current 20% threshold.

Eta: unless someone is working fewer than about 23 hours per week.

They are not the Tories or the Greens (or worse) Labour.

Not going to flame you but what’s Reforms answer to this?

This isn’t an issue that’s going to be fixed overnight or playing with immigration figures.

That’s still liking what they’re not. What qualities make them the party for you?

Well, it’s not going well for Labour. They have managed to piss off large groups of people I.e farmers, pensioners, and the WASPI women. They clearly are completely out of their depth. They have no experience of running a government and Starmer seems to love going abroad and being statesmen like!

So, watch this space, Farage will become more and more key and if he does a deal with Kemi then Labour are in real trouble.

But which of their policies do you like?

As this thread is about Farage I think it is reasonable to ask people who say they like his policies to state which ones and why

Another Farage/Reform fan here.
Not thick. Not racist. 👍

We weren't in a position to leave when Brexit happened but it DID spur us on to sort out our EU passports.
In 4 years time we will be able to leave and will if Farage or similar get into power.
We are white MC business owning higher tax paying Private school users, probably not the type Farage wants rid of but we also happen to hate Fascism of any kind so we will leave.

Why is it worrying?

And how much time has Farage spent in the good old USA?

after the last few years (especially Rishi who seemed scared of meeting international counterparts), I think it’s good to have a PM able to manage international diplomacy. We need that, especially after brexit. I don’t think anyone has ambitions to be the next North Korea do they?

I’m still willing to give time to see how the first budget pans out. Undeniably unpopular but realistic as far as I can see, but sooooo much is going to depend on global factors over the next twelve to eighteen months. I think people (in general) don’t really grasp our actual current world standing. We’re not rich, we’re not as influential as we like to think and we’re not a particularly ‘popular’ nation for various reasons. Farage knows this hence his crush for Trump and Musk - he’s not being honest with his members about why their support is such a great thing.

When people do not feel listened to, are viewed as unimportant, they will turn to those who appear to value their opinion. Until the main parties deal with the issues the disaffected are concerned about, they are colluding in the rise of Farage and co..

I absolutely agree that Reform have got to make themselves credible. But I don't agree that Labour/Conservatives/Lib Dems can insult potential voters by calling them idiots/racists/bigots. Those words have been bandied about too much - they are the go to insult of choice to shut down a different POV. The established Political parties need to try to UNDERSTAND the appeal of Reform. Increasing numbers of voters aren't buying what the established parties are selling so they need to change what they are selling.

Why are you a fan?

So more people need to be in work. Will this government succeed where the Tories failed?
Unlikely because there are complex issues and barriers that need addressing for impoverished communities to thrive.
You only have to look on here to notice the distaste people have for the impoverished British.

Nasty man creating hate and racism wherever he goes. Plus his reaction to any criticism shows how vain and thin skinned he is.

Is 30p Lee still fighting at the Somme every weekend ?

There isn't anyone in politics who is truly holier than thou. I genuinely don't like any high profile politician, I have a particular/additional aversion though to the aforementioned good guys (because they're not good guys, they just present themselves as such); it's a pursuit favoured entirely by 'lefties' (as some would call them).

Farage wouldn't run the country any better or worse than the recent crop. I don't think I'd vote for his party, however I'd find it amusing (given it would annoy the frauds and their simpering/bleeding heart supporters) were he to become a serious contender.

We did leave the U.K. after Brexit. I’m not British but my OH is, and London is the only place I lived and worked as an adult, for three decades.
From a slightly outside (non British) perspective, I think the U.K. suffers hugely- perhaps similar to the U.S, - from a vast vast VAST difference between the wealthy and the poor. I had friends living in well to do areas of Surrey popular with footballers, and I was always open mouthed at the sheer insane levels of wealth when visiting. Mansions, swimming pools, tennis courts in the garden, private roads, several cars upwards of 100k apiece, kids in schools that annually cost more than the average U.K. salary each. Holidays - I won’t even go into that. Just another world completely. And this is the life for a large minority and for them, the system works well. And the same is replicated all over in “posh” parts of London and around the country. And yet on the way to visit my friends we would drive through utterly desolate areas of outer London, high rises etc. Endless depressing streets with nothing but charity shops and takeaways. I think for a lot of people in the U.K. there seems to be no real social mobility available any more. And it feeds into frustration, and immigrants (of which I was one but luckily legal, educated and sought after skills wise) are an easy target. I don’t know how the U.K. and England in particular can solve this problem. But taxing wealth (including inherited) and not just income does seem inevitable or else the chasm between the haves and have-nothings will continue to grow and society to fracture. Labour have tentatively looked at this with recent changes and of course it didn’t go down well with farmers. They need to look at the super wealthy and wealth redistribution, but without alienating people from wanting to live in England. It is not an easy problem to solve.
Amidst all this mess a populist like Farage can promise that world and some folks will believe him sadly. I saw family members (in laws) switch to Reform over the last few years. They are not necessarily dumb or evil, they feel disillusioned and let down. They do also romanticise the British Empire so there is an element of them feeling left behind and rather than playing catch up, they want to stop the world. Which IS dumb I guess. Maybe the education system needs work so people aren’t leaving school with such a backward view anymore. Somehow a generation of people grew up without understanding the EU and trade/tariffs and failed to predict the damage leaving a free trade agreement would inflict.

I hope he becomes PM. The country is increasingly getting worse and worse as the years go by. I’m happy for someone new to have a shot at it, nothing can be more disastrous than the Conservatives and Labour anyway.

What policies would you want him to rollout if he became PM?