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Seeing that Repulsive Nigel Farage everywhere now

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stonejam · 28/12/2024 16:03

I don’t like any of them. I’m politically hornless but seeing this turd getting more and more popular would actually make me leave the country.

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Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 09:44

wholettheturnipsburn · 29/12/2024 09:17

@Walrusdress Well I couldn't read one of them as that was behind a paywall but the ones I did read were airy fairy promises with no evidence of how they are going to deliver on any of these

I kind of thought as you are waving your little flag you might have been able to say why YOU are voting for them, rather than generic google results but, if that's the powers of your conviction then good for you

You really think the EHCR is wrong

Twilight Zone

I am voting for them because I want less immigration. Yes I think the EHCR is wrong. Doesn't really matter about convincing people like you anyway, Nigel with be PM either way.

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 09:47

Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 09:44

I am voting for them because I want less immigration. Yes I think the EHCR is wrong. Doesn't really matter about convincing people like you anyway, Nigel with be PM either way.

You think the EHCR is wrong even though exiting it would breach the Good Friday Agreement?

PandoraSox · 29/12/2024 09:48

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 09:41

Here is the wiki link to Farage stating that he lives in Bromley. There are numerous other links on google to his UK property.

Unless you can provide anything (other than random x posts) then I can find no evidence to back up your post and until you can it's remains fake information.

I wonder how he manages to spend time with his French partner?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laure_Ferrari

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CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 29/12/2024 09:49

Immigration was never an issue when I was growing up.
It's a burning issue and there must be reasons why it's so hard to enact. I'd like to see any party actually speficically list why they can't get a handle on it and then address point by point what they will do.

For instance why can't we station patrols in the chanel to immediately save the occupants and take them back to France?
Or patrols on our beaches to take them straight back etc

Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 09:49

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 09:47

You think the EHCR is wrong even though exiting it would breach the Good Friday Agreement?

Even though? Read my comment again.

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 09:49

@Parker231

"How is all immigration going to stop?"

By its very definition you cannot stop illegal migration because it's illegal. You can make the UK a less attractive destination than say France by introducing ID cards, reducing welfare or accommodation benefits etc but you cannot stop it. Neither can you just "send them back to France" as Reform suggests because the French don't want them either, are glad they have left France and will simply say no.

However it is possible to change the number of legal migration by relaxing or toughening up the visa issuance.

PandoraSox · 29/12/2024 09:50

Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 09:44

I am voting for them because I want less immigration. Yes I think the EHCR is wrong. Doesn't really matter about convincing people like you anyway, Nigel with be PM either way.

He won't ever be PM. I don't think he wants to be.

LauraNorda · 29/12/2024 09:53

The vast majority of the people on this thread are the cause of the problems we face. Continously voting for different cheeks of the same arse and wondering why they are getting shat on all the time.

Maybe the country needs a Reform government. It may be better than now or it may be worse. However, with both major parties out of power, it may compel them to seriously up their game and bring in people of calibre. instead of the deadbeats we have now.

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 09:55

Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 09:49

Even though? Read my comment again.

You have posted that you think the ECHR is wrong and I’m asking what you think of the impact on the GFA?

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 09:56

@PandoraSox

"I wonder how he manages to spend time with his French partner?"

So your entire evidence to support the claim by @luckylavender
that "Farage is resident in Brussels" consists of him having a French girlfriend that "presumably" he spends time with! Genius 😃...

Hmm I wouldn't recommend a career in policing or the judiciary for either of you.

PandoraSox · 29/12/2024 09:56

LauraNorda · 29/12/2024 09:53

The vast majority of the people on this thread are the cause of the problems we face. Continously voting for different cheeks of the same arse and wondering why they are getting shat on all the time.

Maybe the country needs a Reform government. It may be better than now or it may be worse. However, with both major parties out of power, it may compel them to seriously up their game and bring in people of calibre. instead of the deadbeats we have now.

Yes Reform UK PLC certainly has quality members, doesn't it? 20% of its MPs are convicted criminals.

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 09:57

CandlesOrangesRedribbon · 29/12/2024 09:49

Immigration was never an issue when I was growing up.
It's a burning issue and there must be reasons why it's so hard to enact. I'd like to see any party actually speficically list why they can't get a handle on it and then address point by point what they will do.

For instance why can't we station patrols in the chanel to immediately save the occupants and take them back to France?
Or patrols on our beaches to take them straight back etc

Because they are entitled to make their way to the uk to apply for asylum.

wholettheturnipsburn · 29/12/2024 10:01

If only immigration was even on the top ten issues in this country

I despair I really do

Look at the farage rioters, how many of them could do a job that immigrants currently do? Most of them looked as if they had spent their lives on benefits.

I bet they all won't work and blame immigrants for taking all their jobs

Now, if reform were to campaign to get these types to work and off their benefits, they'd have my vote

PandoraSox · 29/12/2024 10:02

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 09:56

@PandoraSox

"I wonder how he manages to spend time with his French partner?"

So your entire evidence to support the claim by @luckylavender
that "Farage is resident in Brussels" consists of him having a French girlfriend that "presumably" he spends time with! Genius 😃...

Hmm I wouldn't recommend a career in policing or the judiciary for either of you.

I merely wondered how he manages to spend time with his partner, now we have no freedom of movement between the UK and EU, especially now he is an MP.

I didn't suggest he lives in Brussels or say that I supported pp's claim. I have no idea whether it is true or not.

I wouldn't recommend a career in policing or the judiciary for you, given your lack of reading comprehension.

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 10:04

@LauraNorda

"The vast majority of the people on this thread are the cause of the problems we face. Continously voting for different cheeks of the same arse and wondering why they are getting shat on all the time."

The urban middle class urban liberals often in secure public sector jobs simply don't get or even wish to hear the genuine grievances of ordinary people up and down the country.

When they are forced to hear or see such grievances (eg 4 million voters for Reform) rather than taking the intellectual effort to go through and understand these grievances and to hopefully then address, they simply dismiss them as "thick" "uneducated" or "racist" or the latest bingo buzzword of "fascist".

Rather than the continued policies of steady managed economic and social decline people want change and are attracted to politicians that offer radical change (even if they are charlatans).

How is this so difficult for the left to understand?

noblegiraffe · 29/12/2024 10:06

Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 09:05

Here you go, the wonders of AI, just as expected by pretty much everyone but you it seems.

Reform UK, led by Nigel Farage, has outlined a comprehensive immigration policy aimed at significantly reducing both legal and illegal immigration into the United Kingdom.

Freeze on Non-Essential Immigration: Reform UK proposes an immediate halt to all non-essential immigration, with exceptions for critical sectors such as healthcare.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqll1edxgw4o?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Net Zero Migration: The party aims to achieve net-zero migration within 100 days of taking office, balancing the number of people entering and leaving the country.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/reform-manifesto-policies-nigel-farage-8np3x85cr?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Addressing Illegal Immigration: Reform UK plans to eliminate illegal immigration by preventing the settlement of illegal immigrants and returning those who arrive via unauthorized channels, such as small boats crossing the English Channel, back to France.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Withdrawal from the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR): To facilitate stricter immigration controls, the party advocates for the UK to leave the ECHR, thereby removing legal obstacles to deportations.

news.sky.com/story/general-election-labour-and-conservative-immigration-policies-explained-13146912?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Incentives for Employing British Workers: Reform UK proposes increasing employer National Insurance contributions to 20% for foreign workers, encouraging businesses to hire British citizens.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK?utm_source=chatgpt.com

These measures reflect Reform UK's commitment to stringent immigration policies, focusing on reducing overall numbers and enhancing border security.

So he's not actually going to stop immigration at all? "Freeze on Non-Essential Immigration: Reform UK proposes an immediate halt to all non-essential immigration, with exceptions for critical sectors such as healthcare."

Right, so Reform agree that we need immigration to prop up the NHS. What are the other critical sectors? How much will immigration reduce if we acknowledge that we actually need foreign workers?
Will the 20% national insurance contribution for foreign workers include those critical sectors? How will the critical sectors, particularly the NHS afford that?

There has been a lot of fuss about businesses closing because of the recent NI hike, so a hike to 20% will cause a lot of businesses to close. Is this a good thing, when it's a bad thing if Labour do it?

What about students? Students form a large part of the immigration figures. Stop universities being able to accept international students and they will immediately go bust as international students finance home students. Or does that count as essential immigration?

This seems incredibly poorly thought out.

GaleGirl · 29/12/2024 10:08

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1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 10:09

@PandoraSox

"I merely wondered how he manages to spend time with his partner, now we have no freedom of movement between the UK and EU, especially now he is an MP."

Presumably by either his partner or himself getting on a plane or train and travelling to Brussels (or wherever his partner lives) or her travelling to London.

Despite Brexit you do realise that people can still visit other countries (up to 90 days without a visa for Brussels) and people can also come to the UK.

PandoraSox · 29/12/2024 10:15

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 10:09

@PandoraSox

"I merely wondered how he manages to spend time with his partner, now we have no freedom of movement between the UK and EU, especially now he is an MP."

Presumably by either his partner or himself getting on a plane or train and travelling to Brussels (or wherever his partner lives) or her travelling to London.

Despite Brexit you do realise that people can still visit other countries (up to 90 days without a visa for Brussels) and people can also come to the UK.

Yes I am aware of the 90 day rule. But as Farage is an MP now, he supposedly spends all of Mon-Thurs in Westminster and Friday in his constituency.

I am sure, being the dedicated MP he is, he then spends his weekends on constituency case work. All that doesn't leave much time for trips to France. Poor Nige, sacrificing his personal life for the good of the UK.

luckylavender · 29/12/2024 10:15

Walrusdress · 29/12/2024 08:46

The alternative to Farage is endless immigration, so he gets my vote.

Farage promised that Brexit was the answer to immigration & it's made it so much worse. And yet people still trust him.

luckylavender · 29/12/2024 10:16

lavenderlou · 29/12/2024 08:54

He is totally self-serving and has no interest in leading the country. Far too much work. Look at the non-existent effort he's put in to being a constituency MP.

I assumed he would want to retire before the next election but I googled and he is only 60! I thought he was at least 10 years older. Hopefully all the smoking amd drinking will mean he isn't healthy enough to contend the next election.

Look how lazy he was as an MEP. Just trousered the cash.

luckylavender · 29/12/2024 10:19

1dayatatime · 29/12/2024 09:56

@PandoraSox

"I wonder how he manages to spend time with his French partner?"

So your entire evidence to support the claim by @luckylavender
that "Farage is resident in Brussels" consists of him having a French girlfriend that "presumably" he spends time with! Genius 😃...

Hmm I wouldn't recommend a career in policing or the judiciary for either of you.

And I wouldn't recommend a career in diplomacy for you. Nor reading between the lines 😂

terracottacountryfarm · 29/12/2024 10:25

A lot of people I know personally voted for reform, which surprised me.
Reform have a very good chance with the way labour has gone. They've fucked this country even more than it already was.
People are getting desperate for Britain to be British again.
He also had some very good points and he says what a lot of people think, but are too scared to openly discuss. Sad really that it's come to this

Parker231 · 29/12/2024 10:26

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There’s nothing stopping British citizens opening businesses in their local towns.

PandoraSox · 29/12/2024 10:29

terracottacountryfarm · 29/12/2024 10:25

A lot of people I know personally voted for reform, which surprised me.
Reform have a very good chance with the way labour has gone. They've fucked this country even more than it already was.
People are getting desperate for Britain to be British again.
He also had some very good points and he says what a lot of people think, but are too scared to openly discuss. Sad really that it's come to this

People are getting desperate for Britain to be British again

Can you explain what you mean by this?

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