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Saw evidence of drug taking

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Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 09:13

I've name changed for this, but I'm a regular poster and have been on here for years.

Last night at a Christmas do I saw evidence of drug taking, or rather supply by one person to a couple of people who each then promptly went to the loo. I'm not naive about the reach of drugs in society, but I was shocked to see this in this setting with these people. These are people with young families who I've known for a few years. I'm now wondering what the hell to do. One of those involved is probably a dealer who ostensibly has a professional job.

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Onetimeonly2024 · 08/12/2024 09:57

Not your business. These are, I assume, consenting adults? Leave it alone.

SleepyHippy3 · 08/12/2024 09:57

JurassicPark4Eva · 08/12/2024 09:36

It impacts the whole world. Drug use is the driving force behind drug dealers, county lines, human trafficking, modern slavery, cuckooing, organised crime groups, money laundering and all the associated violence, rape, sexual assaults, murders interlinked with these OCGs.

I agree with all of this, and it’s horrific, but also for this very reason many drugs should be legalised and regulated, because whether we like it or not, people have always taken drugs, and they always will. All sorts of people take drugs including people that society may view as „”fine upstanding standing citizens”. At least by legalising it, it will take away, and negate, some of the horrible consequences of the illegal drug trade. We waste billions, trillions on the war on drugs, that no country has ever won, or will win. If we legalise, regulate and tax legal drug usage, will will generate billions of pounds, that can be invested into the entire country, for various things, but especially spend that money on helping genuine drug addicts, out of drug addiction. Most people who recreationally use drugs, are not addicts, and they never will. In fact, alcohol is by far the deadliest substance, ingested in this country, and it’s legal.

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 10:01

PerkyViper · 08/12/2024 09:56

Jeez OP get a life 🤣

Grow up

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OneTaupePoster · 08/12/2024 10:01

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RubicsPuzzle · 08/12/2024 10:02

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 09:46

@ChaosHol1 I think you are the naive one tbh.

@RubicsPuzzle for you and some of the other posters, I am wondering what I do in terms of my contact with the people involved not just whether I should report what I saw. I did wonder if what I had seen was not as it appeared but there's no other plausible explanation.

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I’m sure I would think the same as you if I saw what you describe.

I guess I can only say what I would do. As pp have said, I would note it and withdraw personally but do nothing professionally. No one has ever offered my drugs. So whilst I know it happens, I’m clueless about how many people I know do recreational drugs. I have never taken drugs even once in my life - I’ve only ever been in a situation where it would have been easy to take them once at uni. We were all sitting in a circle and they were smoking weed. Even then I didn’t get offered any - they just passed the joint around me! I had earlier in the evening been astonished that weed was also Marjuana, which was also cannabis which was also pot - so I guess they knew I wasn’t a habitual drug user!

You don’t say what your work is but when I worked in HR in an industry where drug taking was considered dangerous to being able to complete the job (a type of engineering), we did random drug tests. One person did get a positive result in the years I was there. We felt we would need that level of proof to impact someone’s employment. It never happened but if someone had come with a report they’d seen someone taking drugs, I suspect our policy would have allowed us to ask the person to voluntarily submit to a drug test.

SleepyHippy3 · 08/12/2024 10:03

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 09:46

@ChaosHol1 I think you are the naive one tbh.

@RubicsPuzzle for you and some of the other posters, I am wondering what I do in terms of my contact with the people involved not just whether I should report what I saw. I did wonder if what I had seen was not as it appeared but there's no other plausible explanation.

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But surely, in this case, if you didn’t know exactly what was being exchanged, what would you be exactly reporting? If you don’t know, then you are just speculating, in which case what would you say?

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 10:06

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You seem to enjoy sneering at me.

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PerkyViper · 08/12/2024 10:06

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 10:01

Grow up

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anotherworrier · 08/12/2024 10:08

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 09:17

For starters I'm conflicted about staying in the same circle with these people. Doing nothing tacitly condones the behaviour. We all know organised crime is behind the drugs trade.

You have way to much time on your hands.

Alpinesnoozer · 08/12/2024 10:08

It is non of your business what they do in their own time. I'm sure some of your work colleagues get up to morally much worse things. Forget about it.

MrsBungle · 08/12/2024 10:09

Just don’t socialise with them anymore. I don’t understand what your dilemma is? You don’t like what you’ve seen so stay away from them.

Alpinesnoozer · 08/12/2024 10:09

I put it in the sane bracket as a collegue having an affair at work - none of my business!

Rainbow321 · 08/12/2024 10:10

They didn't force it on you , or offer it to your kids , so do nothing .

Alwaysoneoddsock · 08/12/2024 10:12

I work in child safeguarding and sadly drug taking is far more common than many people think across all ‘classes’. It is doing huge amounts of damage to everyone in our society and globally. For example county line activity is based on child abuse (physical, emotional and sexual). The ripple effect of drug supply and drug misuse is extensive. However, as you can see from the posts on this thread people are too stupid and / or too selfish to accept this.

Sadly OP there is little you can do. The police aren’t interested. I would simply disconnect from the people involved in any way you can. You can’t be associated with people who support child abuse. And that includes every single person who uses an illegal substance.

For the posters advocating legalisation that’s not going to work either. First off our mental health systems couldn’t cope with the huge increase in need that would arise if more people started using cannabis for example.

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 10:18

@Alwaysoneoddsock you've articulated a lot of what I'm thinking and feeling very well. A pp was correct that I know these people through a hobby. I'm concerned that some of the money I am paying for this is being spent on drugs and I cannot condone this. I am really sad that this means for me I have to leave this hobby group.

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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 08/12/2024 10:19

Alwaysoneoddsock · 08/12/2024 10:12

I work in child safeguarding and sadly drug taking is far more common than many people think across all ‘classes’. It is doing huge amounts of damage to everyone in our society and globally. For example county line activity is based on child abuse (physical, emotional and sexual). The ripple effect of drug supply and drug misuse is extensive. However, as you can see from the posts on this thread people are too stupid and / or too selfish to accept this.

Sadly OP there is little you can do. The police aren’t interested. I would simply disconnect from the people involved in any way you can. You can’t be associated with people who support child abuse. And that includes every single person who uses an illegal substance.

For the posters advocating legalisation that’s not going to work either. First off our mental health systems couldn’t cope with the huge increase in need that would arise if more people started using cannabis for example.

You say people are too selfish or stupid to accept this (presumably because they've said the OP should do nothing and mimd her own business), but in the next breath you say the OP can't do anything. Nobody on the thread has condoned the illegal drug trade, so how are they being selfish and stupid?

Hyperion100 · 08/12/2024 10:19

Welcome to the real world where a hell of a lot of people do drugs.

Mothers, fathers, lawyers, bankers, doctors, police, teachers, your neighbours etc etc

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 10:20

@Hyperion100 - doesn't make it right or something to condone.

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Lambington · 08/12/2024 10:21

What would you do if you witnessed any other serious crime being committed?

ChristmasRobinson · 08/12/2024 10:24

It's up to you what you do.

Most people would let it go and modify their own activity accordingly if they didn't want more association with group (find a different group).

But if it's something where you think it's really a serious problem like, I could see how seeing a bunch of scout leaders do this is different from a bunch of people in an adult rock choir, then you could raise it somehow.

You can think about whether you want to report names or that more generally drug taking is happening and you'd like it to be known and various refreshing notices about rules etc would get issued / training on what to do etc.

I reported drug taking by staff to my work place at a social gathering as it was happening directly outside the office, so plain as day to anyone walking past it was our workers. I didn't name names, but I raised it as a reputational risk. The response was to put a security guard on the door and just issue a pre-event warning. It didn't happen the next year, they probably snuck round the back though but to be honest that was fine by me!

Megifer · 08/12/2024 10:26

So don't condone it. Leave the hobby, find another group. That's all you can realistically do tbh.

Beezknees · 08/12/2024 10:26

I wouldn't do anything but I would probably stop spending time with these people socially.

Thatcastlethere · 08/12/2024 10:33

There's nothing you can do but distance yourself from these people.
What actual proof do you have? Photo evidence? And even then the photo won't tell exactly what the substance was... what do you think the police will be able to do? What do you think the employer will be able to do? Nothing.
And if you get involved you risk having why sounds like, quite a large faction of your colleagues being very angry with you.
Your personal choice is to not get involved with this if you are very anti drugs. You know these people use drugs now so distance yourself from them if you disagree with that.
Trying to get more involved than that us not going to end well.
And clearly as you were shocked it can't be a problem that is effecting their families as you did not notice they were drug users before catching sight of this.. so it can't be addiction spiralling out of control. Tgere would have been more obvious signs, you would have noticed this before. Probably just a one off thing reliving their youth at the work Christmas party...
Just note not to be around them or foster a friendship with them and leave it.

Edingril · 08/12/2024 10:35

Sheknowsyouknowaye · 08/12/2024 10:20

@Hyperion100 - doesn't make it right or something to condone.

They are not your children

Thatcastlethere · 08/12/2024 10:36

Lambington · 08/12/2024 10:21

What would you do if you witnessed any other serious crime being committed?

Is it a serious crime?
She doesn't know what they were taking...
And you think doing a bit of drugs at a Christmas do is up there with murder do you?
Obviously the context is important.
Reporting this to the police will achieve nothing but wasting their time.
If you witnessed a murder reporting it to the police would achieve quite a lot and not be a waste of everyone's time!