Dairy Cow Feed Additive Trials - statement from Soil Association

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In case anybody is wondering about how safe the Uk milk chain is, following the past few days news about the Bovaer dairy feed trials and Arla milk/products, the Soil Association has made this statement…

‘This week, Arla Foods UK announced a trial on 30 farms for the use of Bovaer®, a feed additive aimed at reducing methane emissions from cows. news.arlafoods.co.uk/news/major-ret…

This has led us to receive a large number of questions about whether this feed additive would be permitted in organic. It would not.

Soil Association organic standards stipulate that all ingredients/components of a feed additive must be actively approved for use and be deemed safe and nutritionally useful for the animal. The main components that make up Bovaer® are not included in the list of approved products/compounds and as a result, Bovaer® would not be permitted under organic standards and for use in organic farming.

Arla buys milk from many different farms and they supply both organic and non-organic milk. Any organic milk they supply must meet organic regulation requirements and the production has to be completely separate from any non-organic milk. This must be demonstrated and independently audited every year.’

Really useful insight, thank you

This sounds intensive for organic farmers (to not treat a herd prophylatically) but preventing antibiotic prophylaxis is really important for a couple of reasons. 1) directly for the consumer of the product, this limits how much antibiotics will be in the food and 2) indirectly for the wider public this will limit antibiotic resistance.
Personally there are lots of reasons @dairyfarmerswife you've outlined why buying organic pays off for consumer and wider public. Agree with a previous poster that would love to see organic farming be the norm. It's worth the price, we just consume less meat, again lowering GH gas emissions.

Shockingly only one study on 49 rats was reviewed by the FSA for detecting cancer in the "consumer".
4/49 rats developed cancer. But on reexamination this was revised to 3/49.
This is within the realms of stochastic effects. I'm really surprised that not more studies were scrutinised before the FSA made a decision. It's safe because only benign tumours were found in these 4 rats.
Hmmm, so why do dermatologists excise benign melanomas? Why are benign tumours not just left in the body?

Also an external consultant was requested by the FSA panel to comment on the genotoxicity who was contracted by the applicant (i.e. Bovaer manufacturer). Talk about marking their own homework.

Hi @RoseyLentil - not entirely sure what you’re on about regarding soil degradation and deforestation being a good thing - they’re clearly not.
CO2 is actually at the lowest it’s been for an extremely long time and we DO need MORE CO2 in the atmosphere, as well being sequestered into the soil.

Why do you think farmers pump co2 into greenhouses? To produce higher yields and bigger sized crops.

@safefood don’t panic so much - none of what you’ve listed is actually happening now…..you’ve been watching a movie for a very long time.

Showing the masses what WAS happening and what COULD have happened if it wasn’t stopped, was the only way to wake people up.
Making the People think there’s a feed supplement in everyone’s milk causes panic and makes the People stand up themselves and fight back.

Think of everything that’s happened since 2020…..none of that has really happened in the way people think.
All we need to do now, is sit back and enjoy the finale! 🍿🍿🍿

Completely agree. This musnt be hidden/dismissed by others thanks to the waffle of the conspiracy theorists.

All of those things that were mentioned by Crazyandsagitarrius were also once deemed conspiracy theories, I think it’s about time that we look at the ethics behind large companies, their motives and their willingness to sacrifice their customers health and lives for money or whatever they deem is important for their agenda. Talcum powder being carcinogenic, statins causing memory loss, Drs being bought by big Pharma, mothers breast milk being dried up by formula companies, formaldehyde reported in baby cream in the US- & these are just a few scandals from conspiracy theorists - all that are heartbreakingly true. We need to stop branding people as conspiratorial just because they highlight some information that may initially seem outlandish and yes we do need to dig deeper for facts and not rely on main stream media. Generally a lot of us (myself included) are blinkered to what goes on in the world until it effects us or someone we care about.

There is some reasonable evidence in the bovaer case to be sceptical and want to choose organic until there is more evidence. I find the information used by the FSA to licence this product to be scientifically weak relying in some cases on a single study of only a few animals. Sciencific understanding is based on the leading prevailing theory until a new theory or evidence finds otherwise. If this product had been tested over several decades and there had been dozens of replication studies carried out by independent researchers, I would have more confidence in being able to trust the product but this is not the case here.

But then to go and believe that man-made causes of climate change are not real goes against thousands of replicated studies.
These are not connected, though some people choose to believe they are.

It is a worthy aim to reduce methane production and it's contribution to climate change but this aim should not be sacrificing health of the public to do so. This product is insufficiently tested as far as I can tell and warrants scepticism.

Let's stop conflating climate change denial, antivaxxing (which ignore robust, independently replicated studies) and what is healthy scepticism because of the lack of replication and questions over independence of the scientific testing of Bovaer.

Perhaps stop insulting people, which things mentioned are conspiracy theories??

Perhaps stop believing everything you are told by big chains and corrupt msm

Covid jabs proven harm and dangerous, in fact some country's have banned Bill Gates and are wanting to hold him and Fauci trial for murder.

Climate change scientist's and countless others have stated it's not true. They have been claiming the exact same things for over 20 years.

Conspiracy theories which ones? None are.
Geo engineering is a real thing fact look it up yourself.

BlackRock, bill gates own nearly everything look it up yourself it's fact. They also own nearly all farmland in USA and the food chain fact. They want to buy farm here under farmers fact

Fake milk and meat was announced by WEF and gates years back. It was on sale fact

Conspiracy theories which ones they are all true.

Gates the who announced a pandemic Way before Covid, gates paid in and Covid jabs invented before Covid . It's been proven the dangers and deaths and even doctors are trying to get it stopped fact.

Conspiracy theories, do you mean actual facts??
Fact Boaver was funded by bill gates, fact is dangerous and causes tumors, shrinkage reproduction and damages unborn babies. Farmers have to use protective clothing, dangerous to inhale and cows are kept in sheds.

Have you seen the evidence and the actual documents.

Conspiracy theories, have to actually listened to wef members and Klaus ? Have you seen the vids and what they say?

Conspiracy theories.
WEF Rishi announced 15 min cities were coming(nature is in the way farms to) and the next 5 years were going to be toughest for Britain. All his last speech your fault you ignored it.. labour again last week announced again 15 min cities. Have you even bothered to look up government members to see if they are WEF members? Goodness sake wef Starmer even said he chooses Davos over UK

Labour non stop announced accepting paedo as a fetish. Non them are being jailed your fault ignoring

Digital ID, cashless society, amongst other things all mentioned by your so called for us governments Tories and labour and wef years ago

Msm Bet they didn't show you all the farmers pretesting filled London and then in Scotland the other day.. you keep believing the lies, Google is good at it.

You carry on getting your jabs and doing everything for the environment, give up your car, get rid your Central heating.. Keep consuming that Boaver dairy and beef and believe what MSM and all other social media tell you, they not at all paid to control edit ban what you see, and not at all show tell you what they want.

And your government that cares just for you. Honestly I thought people would come further than this, the evidence is pretty obvious but guess it's not when you believe listen to the above and shut anyone else up that tells the truth

Just because people like you are happy to bury your head in the sand, and believe the lies MSM and government tell you, unless you in on it . You got no right to insult and silence other people.

Personally I think people that still don't listen open their eyes and learn from countless experience over how many years? Are the nut jobs.

I unlike you don't take things face value without research and proof. All I have done. Boaver isn't safe just like the jabs. you deserve what's coming tbh but rest us trying to prevent it well we don't.

And do you think China was always like this? You do don't you! If they post 1 thing wrong online, they lose credits and can't even use a train. You know absolutely nothing and you have no idea what's coming to UK.

You must not agree to digital id and cashless society. Australia Ireland are further ahead than us. USA are nearly going under, USA west needs trump

@safefood little confused as to why you’ve quoted me? I agree with mostly everything that you’re saying. The only thing that I disagree with is telling people that they deserve what’s coming & that we can’t change it. The power is with us, which is why it’s good to see people discussing this in places like Mumsnet. But aggression doesn’t help people listen, it closes them down.

I will just leave this here!
oh look another conspiracy theory!
WEF agenda, 1 health leader & vac cards.

Oh look we have that it's

Who (wef) they are corrupt, (I have personal evidence& was told as much by 1 their members after a meeting, trying to change dangerous recommendations!)
Here is a statement fact!

"THIS is what the Deep State FEARS.The WHO is a Criminal Entity. President Trump DECLINED their $30M Bribe."

“Upon investigation…over 85% of WHO's budget turns out to be funded by Stakeholders like The Bill Gates Foundation. This means our health is being used as a weapon…”

x.com/liz_churchill10/status/1870335413191081994

Damn conspiracies eh!
Bill gates again, Covid jabs, climate scare, cows fart stop them. With Boaver all bill gates. Wef

“Upon investigation…over 85% of WHO's budget turns out to be funded by Stakeholders like The Bill Gates Foundation. This means our health is being used as a weapon…”

He isn't a doctor he has no training in anything an no one elected him, yet he is killing disabling millions. As he says far too many people, we need to cut population down.

You enjoy your Boaver and covid jabs

Here's another thought, if the sea is rising due to climate(and it's not there is plenty of evidence supporting this).

Then why do rich and famous purchase mansions, houses right at, by the sea??

Fly around in jets,boats, they even have boats to take them to their boats and helicopters.

Why are factories allowed? Tack free in McDonalds , stores full of plastic and wrappings? Etc etc

You need to re read my original post. I was stating that branding people conspiracy theorists is ignorant and also stating that when truth is shown it’s usually branded as being from conspiracy theorist when its usually the truth. Have a feeling that you just want to rant, which is your choice obviously - but I AGREE with every thing that you’ve written - just not the tone (The WHO is corrupted, The WEF are out to depopulate, Climate change - yes the climate is changing, is it wholly caused by humans or is it a natural cycle that the earth goes through, humans are too young on this planet to know but yes we alter the weather - that’s going to piss off Mother Earth somewhat! - Are we just strawmen created for richer peoples bidding? Who knows! - oh and you’ve not mentioned 5G, It was actually created as a weapon) However, we were discussing Bovaer (however it’s spelt) and yes! people would be wise to not let their families be used as an experiment and buy organic for the foreseable. Merry Christmas!