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Dairy Cow Feed Additive Trials - statement from Soil Association

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Verbena17 · 29/11/2024 18:13

In case anybody is wondering about how safe the Uk milk chain is, following the past few days news about the Bovaer dairy feed trials and Arla milk/products, the Soil Association has made this statement…

‘This week, Arla Foods UK announced a trial on 30 farms for the use of Bovaer®, a feed additive aimed at reducing methane emissions from cows. news.arlafoods.co.uk/news/major-ret…

This has led us to receive a large number of questions about whether this feed additive would be permitted in organic. It would not.

Soil Association organic standards stipulate that all ingredients/components of a feed additive must be actively approved for use and be deemed safe and nutritionally useful for the animal. The main components that make up Bovaer® are not included in the list of approved products/compounds and as a result, Bovaer® would not be permitted under organic standards and for use in organic farming.

Arla buys milk from many different farms and they supply both organic and non-organic milk. Any organic milk they supply must meet organic regulation requirements and the production has to be completely separate from any non-organic milk. This must be demonstrated and independently audited every year.’

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AppleWhiskers · 08/12/2024 16:57

Whilst this is of concern to me, I do wish the OP would shut the fuck up about X this, X that.
X is a shit hole, I don't read my science from X or the fucking tabloids.

Your concern with the product itself may very well be valid, but you sound a wee bit too much Q-anonny for me to take even remotely seriously.

I dare say this is the working class revolution - united in ignorance, sealed with social media ooze..

noobiedoobie · 08/12/2024 17:13

This concerns me. Government generally only intervene after the fact. In a way, another way that climate change will disproportionately affect the poor, who can't afford organic milk.

Verbena17 · 09/12/2024 11:58

dairyfarmerswife · 07/12/2024 10:13

There is an EU standard and an international one. As we've left the EU ours is now UK rather than EU but it will be equivalent.

I suspect the farmers you know just don't want to go through the process and cost of certification as much as anything.

The main rules are that you cannot blanket treat as a preventative. For example if you have a group of animals and there are some sick ones you can't just treat the lot in case.

You can use most treatments if you can prove a need but you must observe double the withdrawal periods. Withdrawal period is the time after a medical treatment when the animal can enter the food chain, or if it's a milking cow, when her milk can go back into the food chain (we 'dump' milk from treated cows)

Ultimately animal welfare always comes first. If, in unusual case an animal could not be got better under organic rules, it would be decertified, ie no longer organic.

I don't have much patience for people who say they 'farm organically ' without being certified because in my opinion they are riding on the coat tails of those of us who do go through the process properly. And unless they actually are certified and inspected they could be doing things which are not within the rules and still making that statement.

Yes exactly - they could literally be doing anything!

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Verbena17 · 09/12/2024 12:04

AppleWhiskers · 08/12/2024 16:57

Whilst this is of concern to me, I do wish the OP would shut the fuck up about X this, X that.
X is a shit hole, I don't read my science from X or the fucking tabloids.

Your concern with the product itself may very well be valid, but you sound a wee bit too much Q-anonny for me to take even remotely seriously.

I dare say this is the working class revolution - united in ignorance, sealed with social media ooze..

Thanks so much - you could have totally written that in a much more educated fashion 😊. I do love being sworn at on a Monday morning.

If you have valid concerns about Bovaer, you could have simply stuck to those concerns as opposed to ranting at me about what you ‘think’ X is.

I haven’t read the tabloids or watched mainstream ‘news’ for years.
X is a social media platform - anybody can post there - including the very people who I’m sure you DO get your non-‘Q Annony’ info from 😉.

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Verbena17 · 09/12/2024 12:08

BalladOfBarry · 07/12/2024 16:07

According to an article in the Daily Mail, M&S have acknowledged they have been using the additive since April in the 40 farms supplying their milk.
I can't believe they can just do this without labelling.

Was that just M&S Ireland?

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BalladOfBarry · 09/12/2024 14:16

Verbena17 · 09/12/2024 12:08

Was that just M&S Ireland?

I don't see Ireland specifically mentioned. I've linked the article.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14167127/amp/cow-engineering-eco-war-Bovaer-food-chain.html

David1983 · 10/12/2024 12:03

We've just noticed this morning in tiny print on the bottom of our Organic milk from Aldi that surprise surprise it's developed by Arla.

No doubt Bovear is being fed to those cows as well and I also suspect that the approval by the FSA have been based on very short term research. A spokesman for DSM-Firmenich said that if this trial goes well they'll look to roll it out further .....so basically they're trialling it on us guinea pigs to see if there's any adverse side effects (which if there are will likely be longer term and not noticeable straight away so no doubt the reports will say "all good" and they'll roll out further).

We're having our first baby and there's so many strict guidelines about what my partner should/shouldn't consume due to how substances can pass from her to the baby and through breast milk. Yet in this instance they reckon there's no chance of Bovear getting into the milk? I find that highly doubtful!

To me this feels very similar to how rapidly and forcibly the vaccine was pushed during Covid....like a frantic rush to get everyone jabbed regardless of recipients age, background etc. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but in the wake of the adverse side affects of the Covid vaccines now coming to light I can't help but think something foul may be at play here.

Either way, it's vey concerning that a complex silicone based substance, that can be corrosive to the eyes, a skin irritant, and potentially harmful if inhaled, is being fed to cows and by 2030 they plan to feed it to all cows by law! Sounds very totalitarian to me!

Verbena17 · 10/12/2024 16:48

David1983 · 10/12/2024 12:03

We've just noticed this morning in tiny print on the bottom of our Organic milk from Aldi that surprise surprise it's developed by Arla.

No doubt Bovear is being fed to those cows as well and I also suspect that the approval by the FSA have been based on very short term research. A spokesman for DSM-Firmenich said that if this trial goes well they'll look to roll it out further .....so basically they're trialling it on us guinea pigs to see if there's any adverse side effects (which if there are will likely be longer term and not noticeable straight away so no doubt the reports will say "all good" and they'll roll out further).

We're having our first baby and there's so many strict guidelines about what my partner should/shouldn't consume due to how substances can pass from her to the baby and through breast milk. Yet in this instance they reckon there's no chance of Bovear getting into the milk? I find that highly doubtful!

To me this feels very similar to how rapidly and forcibly the vaccine was pushed during Covid....like a frantic rush to get everyone jabbed regardless of recipients age, background etc. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but in the wake of the adverse side affects of the Covid vaccines now coming to light I can't help but think something foul may be at play here.

Either way, it's vey concerning that a complex silicone based substance, that can be corrosive to the eyes, a skin irritant, and potentially harmful if inhaled, is being fed to cows and by 2030 they plan to feed it to all cows by law! Sounds very totalitarian to me!

No, whilst some organic milks are produced by Arla, unless they outright lie and go against strict organic certification, currently, no Soil Association accredited Organic milk in the Uk is from cows fed Bovaer…..even if produced by Arla

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David1983 · 10/12/2024 16:55

Verbena17 · 10/12/2024 16:48

No, whilst some organic milks are produced by Arla, unless they outright lie and go against strict organic certification, currently, no Soil Association accredited Organic milk in the Uk is from cows fed Bovaer…..even if produced by Arla

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Ok this is good to know, thank you. However, I'm concerned that given the government's excessive approach to reaching net zero how can we ensure they won't force this into organic milk production as well?

Verbena17 · 10/12/2024 21:35

David1983 · 10/12/2024 16:55

Ok this is good to know, thank you. However, I'm concerned that given the government's excessive approach to reaching net zero how can we ensure they won't force this into organic milk production as well?

I guess they might try to but I honestly think there’s more to this than what it seems.

The soil association currently won’t entertain it thankfully.

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David1983 · 11/12/2024 08:23

Verbena17 · 10/12/2024 21:35

I guess they might try to but I honestly think there’s more to this than what it seems.

The soil association currently won’t entertain it thankfully.

Oh for sure there is, it’s highly suspicious if you ask me! Just another forced intervention to the list of strange events happening around the world

AnotherUnoriginalUsername · 11/12/2024 19:48

I’ve no doubt it’ll be used in the production of organic milk eventually.

safefood · 19/12/2024 20:06

Verbena17 · 29/11/2024 18:13

In case anybody is wondering about how safe the Uk milk chain is, following the past few days news about the Bovaer dairy feed trials and Arla milk/products, the Soil Association has made this statement…

‘This week, Arla Foods UK announced a trial on 30 farms for the use of Bovaer®, a feed additive aimed at reducing methane emissions from cows. news.arlafoods.co.uk/news/major-ret…

This has led us to receive a large number of questions about whether this feed additive would be permitted in organic. It would not.

Soil Association organic standards stipulate that all ingredients/components of a feed additive must be actively approved for use and be deemed safe and nutritionally useful for the animal. The main components that make up Bovaer® are not included in the list of approved products/compounds and as a result, Bovaer® would not be permitted under organic standards and for use in organic farming.

Arla buys milk from many different farms and they supply both organic and non-organic milk. Any organic milk they supply must meet organic regulation requirements and the production has to be completely separate from any non-organic milk. This must be demonstrated and independently audited every year.’

Hi thanks for this post. I have been doing lots of searching since I discovered this.
I hate to tell you, but nearly every single brand is owned by fat cats& every single 1 of them nearly can be traced back to BlackRock,WEF aka gates lot. And they use Boaver as they made it and it's because of them it's in our food.

BlackRock WEF own all land nearly in USA and food chain. Bill gates and BlackRock met with WEF Starmer, now look with the farms, but everyone was told not to vote them in they made Welsh farmers life's hell .

And are using climate to force people to obey to control, control food control the people, people believe it and will happy to have farmland sold for solar and cars rid of but it's lies.

You must btw refuse digital I'd which is coming next& 15 min cities, it's been announced twice by wef rishi& WEF labour.

Nearly everything has Boaver, not just what's advertised. It's not just in milk, cheese, butter, beef. It's in Barrats sweets, to nesquick to nestle to babybel.

All stores own dairy& beef contain it, regardless of organic.
Before you purchase anything with milk, check everything! Even your chilled Cappuccino & mcvities to baby milk. Then email the company.

This is Bill gates, and wef agenda to cull, the vacs not everyone took, so this is round 2. Round 3 is mRNA jabs&fake meat milk. They are trying to rid of our farmers.

safefood · 19/12/2024 20:09

Verbena17 · 29/11/2024 18:13

In case anybody is wondering about how safe the Uk milk chain is, following the past few days news about the Bovaer dairy feed trials and Arla milk/products, the Soil Association has made this statement…

‘This week, Arla Foods UK announced a trial on 30 farms for the use of Bovaer®, a feed additive aimed at reducing methane emissions from cows. news.arlafoods.co.uk/news/major-ret…

This has led us to receive a large number of questions about whether this feed additive would be permitted in organic. It would not.

Soil Association organic standards stipulate that all ingredients/components of a feed additive must be actively approved for use and be deemed safe and nutritionally useful for the animal. The main components that make up Bovaer® are not included in the list of approved products/compounds and as a result, Bovaer® would not be permitted under organic standards and for use in organic farming.

Arla buys milk from many different farms and they supply both organic and non-organic milk. Any organic milk they supply must meet organic regulation requirements and the production has to be completely separate from any non-organic milk. This must be demonstrated and independently audited every year.’

And the person posting about climate. Omg .. There is no climate . The flooding Spain etc is because EU,aka WEF forced them to rid of their dams for the sake of fake climate that why they flooded.

Drains never cleared out etc in UK If you actually do your homework you will see, the world goes into cycles and this cycle actually has a name weren't taught this at school.

We are actually coming out of a mini Ice age, and the temperture is the same as the 50s.They have actually been found out making fake temperature measurements that didn't exist.

The temperture gauges before were put away from cities etc but coz sprawl of building cities now cover the monitors, so naturally read higher.

Also look into geo engineering to control the weather, gates also announced they were going to block the sun to cool earth, but it actually kills crop& health.

Oh and it's been admitted & filmed spraying . trump etc are looking in to it. Countries have banned it.

If everyone also remembers the basic taught at school, we need co2 to survive. We need trees for this, but instead they are cutting countless forests down Germany was the saddest. Claiming trees dont work. Co2 is actually low and we actually need more of it to survive. Man does not impact mother nature to this extreme, we make not even 1 per cent of co2

Wind turbines are dangerous to wildlife killing insects, harm people and being investigated for deaths of whales. They also use so much pollution power just like electric cars. It's all lies and the sooner you all wake up the better.

They been claiming earth and ice caps be melted 5 years, that was 18 years ago it's lies to control.

safefood · 19/12/2024 20:11

Verbena17 · 09/12/2024 11:58

Yes exactly - they could literally be doing anything!

Back to Boaver it's dangerous and poison It was trialed 90days, they put to sleep 2cows. It causes cancer, tumours and shrinkage of reproduction organs.. It also causes problems to unborn babies in womb

.It's been traced in every part of the cow from brain to blood and traced in the milk, they are lying to you.

Also the cows can't leave the sheds it's cruel. Protective clothing must be worn as it's dangerous to inhale.

The government and all data clearly marks it as a hazard poison that's not too be consumed.

Other countries have had this, people boycotted it, so fake milk was sold as well as meat. And insects on pizzas etc.

People boycotted this to, so they started putting Boaver milk into normal milk that didn't have any in it. Why would they do this if it was too save the planet?

Cadburys, nestle they all use amongst others. Do not purchase and give to your children. It is to cull. You will never find the truth in msm you need to be on X for the truth and evidence.

Many people don't know why do you think that is? Now all WEF governments are forcing it by 2030 the agenda date.

Why do you think seriously everything is happening?

RoseyLentil · 19/12/2024 20:15

This is such slot if hysteria.
Arla is a farmer owned dairy cooperative not some big pharmacist US corporation. They are trialing this to reduce the carbon and climate impact of dairy farming. This is a good thing.
The supplement reduces the cows production off methane which is a major contributor to global warming so if you are that worried about it drink non dairy alternatives.
The supplement does not end up in the milk.
Unclench the pearls people 🤣

safefood · 19/12/2024 20:16

AnotherUnoriginalUsername · 11/12/2024 19:48

I’ve no doubt it’ll be used in the production of organic milk eventually.

Killing nature greenbelts to build forced population growth is the main cause of problems that they blame climate for.

Here is list of safe milk cream cheese you get get from Morrison etc

Longley farm any their products safe

any Welsh cheese butter.

Belton farms red fox safe
Wykes cheese

Belamere goats products
Cottswold safe
belamere goats butter.

Use your local milk men, but don't assume everything is ok..They sell commercial also laced Boaver.

There will be farms near you that have vending machines open 24/7 for milk.

Belamere farm is safe but they sell flavour milk and won't disclose the cocoa powder used, remember Cadburys Nesquick use Boaver.

Their milk in these drinks are German, other countries use Boaver long before we did.

Start using your local butchers and don't touch store beef or any product with it in

All margarine even that so called French, pineapple and blue cheese is owned by 1 company , they all use Boaver .

I saw someone said kerrygold was ok trust me they are not . They claim they don't, but they were caught out with a post with trucks full Boaver milk.
Yeo valley are arla.

The above are safe.
Everything commercial packed is Boaver.
You need to email everyone that has milk, and if they don't give you a simple yes or no answer, that means they use and don't want boycotted. Remember we are nothing, WEF called us eating things.

you will be shocked to see that everything is owned by the same companies. Good luck and stay safe..

AnotherUnoriginalUsername · 19/12/2024 20:22

I cannot disagree with you @safefood but no doubt your posts will be deleted.

None so blind as those who will not see…

safefood · 19/12/2024 20:24

AnotherUnoriginalUsername · 19/12/2024 20:22

I cannot disagree with you @safefood but no doubt your posts will be deleted.

None so blind as those who will not see…

As long as you see and know and share.. Those that refuse to listen I can't help wonder if they are in on it... Even mps are freaking out about Bovaer but everyone is brainwashed to obey it's so sad everything that is happening.

RoseyLentil · 19/12/2024 20:28

Deforestation and soil degradation reduce the amount of carbon that can be and by forests and soils both of which are massive carbon sinks. Any reduction in the amount of carbon produced by, for example m, cattle and agriculture is a good thing.
I honestly can't fathom how utterly stupid and clueless some of you are.

safefood · 19/12/2024 21:35

RoseyLentil · 19/12/2024 20:28

Deforestation and soil degradation reduce the amount of carbon that can be and by forests and soils both of which are massive carbon sinks. Any reduction in the amount of carbon produced by, for example m, cattle and agriculture is a good thing.
I honestly can't fathom how utterly stupid and clueless some of you are.

Says you. You still believe what you are told without thinking for yourself . Hostility to others that don't believe it and don't want to be poisoned

Goodness sake, farmers have been around since beginning, they do not kill our planet, but the actual opposite.

Without co2 it's game over, you cannot have net zero without killing and harming and it's impossible we don't produce enough of co2 we need co2 and it doesn't even cause global warming do you homework

safefood · 19/12/2024 21:40

RoseyLentil · 19/12/2024 20:28

Deforestation and soil degradation reduce the amount of carbon that can be and by forests and soils both of which are massive carbon sinks. Any reduction in the amount of carbon produced by, for example m, cattle and agriculture is a good thing.
I honestly can't fathom how utterly stupid and clueless some of you are.

Carbon lies. Don't you ever question anything? Like if the snow filled mountains are just meant to be snow, then how come they are finding bodies far down, not just in crevices, obv thats how high snow was then & it wasn't ever this high before.

.Or Iceland etc where it's melting flowers, greenery is found. It's supposed to be there. It's lies about polar bears& coral reefs. It's earth cycle and it's natural.

If we were meant to be dying years ago, then how come everything is still the same. Look at plenty of photos from years back of sea and land, it's not rising at all. It's lies.,

companies the main polluters aren't been made to stop producing plastics& toys etc. They leave lights on empty buildings, huge spotlights 24/7.mps rich famous, all huge boats, helicopters, planes non stop, but we are the 1s to blame.

The Arabian head guy even says it's a lie that we are running out of natural fuel. Kids have been taught this 40 years ago, not king after climate scam was used.. It would ran out& earth would be dead. The weather is the same all the time, nature isn't stupid like man.

We have cola the biggest plastic and factories just like China, the only country not forced to do the fake net zero. Why do you think that is. isn't it strange China are close to nato who btw own Ukraine.

Putin trump green leader, countless scientists, Thatcher, David Bellamy( look what they did to him) they all told you it's fake and control.

Just like the Covid jab now look at everything they are finding out who was behind that as well bill gates.

safefood · 19/12/2024 21:45

RoseyLentil · 19/12/2024 20:28

Deforestation and soil degradation reduce the amount of carbon that can be and by forests and soils both of which are massive carbon sinks. Any reduction in the amount of carbon produced by, for example m, cattle and agriculture is a good thing.
I honestly can't fathom how utterly stupid and clueless some of you are.

It's really odd that people are so so angry and aggressive against people, that do their homework and have their beliefs.

You believe what you want and your WEF gates owned msm, but please curb the anger, hate and insults to others that do not agree with your narrow minded view..

We were all fed these lies and believed it, just some of didn't want to be sheep, questioned everything, discovered everything and no longer want the conditioning, brainwashing..

Electric cars🤣 have you seen how much energy is used to run these fire death traps..WEF will get you out of cars this is the plan and they will use 15 min as the excuse.

CrazyAndSagittarius · 19/12/2024 23:46

The conspiracy nuts have jumped on this as can clearly be seen in this thread. This is a shame as I would not like the people raising relevant and rational concerns to all be dismissed as conspiracy nuts.

i do think there could be, as there often is, some corporate lobbying going on to promote this, swaying governments. But I do not think this is part of some international da Vinci code esque conspiracy!!

I see this as “contaminating” the food chain with a poorly tested product (ie no long term testing over at least a decade) of which are the guinea pigs. I also see this as part of the ultra processed foods issue. Over processing of food is making us sick. We need to be moving away from adding additional processed crap to the food chain and towards no/low processed foods as much as possible. They may have evidenced that none of this product ends up in the milk (and I am dubious of this as I haven’t seen the evidence and this has been claimed about other product before and then later it was found not to be true), but they don’t know what this will do to the cow in the long term. Have the checked what this does to the overall quality of the milk for example?

The pattern with releasing products out to market seems to be: We do minimal testing, release it saying it’s perfectly safe, then decades later we realise how much harm it’s doing and it gets banned, and then the cycle just starts again with the next thing (often quick replacing the banned product/substance. Some fairly recent examples of this have been flame retardants and non-stick, All the while rates of cancer and autoimmune diseases and other illnesses are sky rocketing. I think the reason for that is multifaceted but I strongly suspect that the exposure over decades to a soup of@ poorly tested chemicals is extremely likely to be a leading factor.

Karina12345 · 19/12/2024 23:56

safefood · 19/12/2024 20:09

And the person posting about climate. Omg .. There is no climate . The flooding Spain etc is because EU,aka WEF forced them to rid of their dams for the sake of fake climate that why they flooded.

Drains never cleared out etc in UK If you actually do your homework you will see, the world goes into cycles and this cycle actually has a name weren't taught this at school.

We are actually coming out of a mini Ice age, and the temperture is the same as the 50s.They have actually been found out making fake temperature measurements that didn't exist.

The temperture gauges before were put away from cities etc but coz sprawl of building cities now cover the monitors, so naturally read higher.

Also look into geo engineering to control the weather, gates also announced they were going to block the sun to cool earth, but it actually kills crop& health.

Oh and it's been admitted & filmed spraying . trump etc are looking in to it. Countries have banned it.

If everyone also remembers the basic taught at school, we need co2 to survive. We need trees for this, but instead they are cutting countless forests down Germany was the saddest. Claiming trees dont work. Co2 is actually low and we actually need more of it to survive. Man does not impact mother nature to this extreme, we make not even 1 per cent of co2

Wind turbines are dangerous to wildlife killing insects, harm people and being investigated for deaths of whales. They also use so much pollution power just like electric cars. It's all lies and the sooner you all wake up the better.

They been claiming earth and ice caps be melted 5 years, that was 18 years ago it's lies to control.

Sorry @safefood what do you think we need co2 for?