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What is elon musk problem with Britain?

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Littlemissgobby · 21/11/2024 17:18

Why the fuck is he attacking our gov decisions like inheritance tax on farms? He seems obsessed with Britain ever since the riots . Also can you imagine if sir Allan sugar was posting stuff about American gov policy like Elon musk is.
All because he’s been summoned about disinformation on X That led to the riots.
is he just a right wing twat? He’s gonna have to pipe down if America wants us to be on their side if I was labour I would be getting so annoyed .
side note I sit left centre but Peter Mandelson licking boots of Elon and trump is a piss take.
maybe we are going to have to move closer to Europe as America is unhinged by the sounds of Elon .

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

Elon Musk to ‘summon MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’

World’s richest man responds to UK parliamentarians saying they will call him to testify about X’s role in spreading disinformation during riots

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 17:20

Underthinker · 22/11/2024 17:03

Musk can be erratic, and makes rash decisions, he has veered from a democrat to a republican and holds Trump in too high a regard IMO.

BUT his attitude to free speech is better than most people who run social media platforms. People who say "but he blocked this person... ", well blocking someone on social media is in no way incompatible with free speech. Everyone has the choice who to listen to and who to ignore. Censorship is when you decide that you don't want to listen to someone so then no one else must be allowed to either.

Thats the left for you though - anyone who disagrees with them is labelled ‘far right’, is cancelled, deplatformed, or termed a ‘bot’.

They would seek to adopt the moral superiority of ‘do as I say’, not ‘do as I do’.

Its the rank hypocrisy that grates.

And its that sneering attitude that just cost them the US election, and sees the right rising in Europe and elsewhere.

caringcarer · 22/11/2024 18:06

Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 10:27

Thing is this shows how little you know about politics every time there’s an election other countries do that it’s volunteers that do it and people do it. It’s not just a first thing that

I still think it pissed him off. That was the question OP was asking.

avaritablevampire · 22/11/2024 18:16

Keir is a grown up, I'd be surprised if he was wasting his time and energy on Musk, the more he feeds the lion the more it will roar, and I'm pretty sure Kier is intelligent enough to know this. If Keir wanted to, he could ban twitter; or be a genius and levy a user tax, or, something similar on the platform ...that would generate some much needed revenue! he and his party have shown they have the potential to be pretty autocratic, and good at going for minority groups.

crockofshite · 22/11/2024 19:07

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 22/11/2024 16:06

IIRC wasn't that because he his ego got bruised when he wanted them to use his Tesla submarine thingy and the diver who was on the scene and had actually been in the caves said it wouldn't work. But instead of accepting someone else's superior knowledge, he lashed out instead 🙄.

Edited

Yes, that's what happened.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 22/11/2024 19:08

For a long time now I believe Mark Zuckerberg to be ‘dangerous’ as Elon Musk has been described on this thread. His social media platforms and algorithms have done untold harm to young peoples mental health, radicalisation etc etc. and also spread ‘misinformation’ on all points on the spectrum of ‘left and right’

justasking111 · 22/11/2024 19:10

avaritablevampire · 22/11/2024 18:16

Keir is a grown up, I'd be surprised if he was wasting his time and energy on Musk, the more he feeds the lion the more it will roar, and I'm pretty sure Kier is intelligent enough to know this. If Keir wanted to, he could ban twitter; or be a genius and levy a user tax, or, something similar on the platform ...that would generate some much needed revenue! he and his party have shown they have the potential to be pretty autocratic, and good at going for minority groups.

Bless your heart.

EasternStandard · 22/11/2024 19:11

avaritablevampire · 22/11/2024 18:16

Keir is a grown up, I'd be surprised if he was wasting his time and energy on Musk, the more he feeds the lion the more it will roar, and I'm pretty sure Kier is intelligent enough to know this. If Keir wanted to, he could ban twitter; or be a genius and levy a user tax, or, something similar on the platform ...that would generate some much needed revenue! he and his party have shown they have the potential to be pretty autocratic, and good at going for minority groups.

If Keir wanted to, he could ban twitter

That would be a ludicrous reaction and put the U.K. up there with other state controlled censorship states along the lines of China or Russia

I have no doubt some on here are keen however. Not a good idea

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 19:58

avaritablevampire · 22/11/2024 18:16

Keir is a grown up, I'd be surprised if he was wasting his time and energy on Musk, the more he feeds the lion the more it will roar, and I'm pretty sure Kier is intelligent enough to know this. If Keir wanted to, he could ban twitter; or be a genius and levy a user tax, or, something similar on the platform ...that would generate some much needed revenue! he and his party have shown they have the potential to be pretty autocratic, and good at going for minority groups.

Ban X - and you will be simply promoting it.

Again, telling people what to do rarely ends well.

Many want less government, not more - unless you are dependent on the government shilling that is…

Incidentally, Starmer has a 4-5 year tenure at most. Musk isn’t going away.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 20:11

Meanwhile, in other news.

Rachel Reeves’s real job titles during her time at Halifax have been revealed after she deleted “economist” from her LinkedIn profile.

The Chancellor edited her online CV earlier this month to remove a previous claim that she worked as an economist at the Bank of Scotland between 2006 and 2009.

Her LinkedIn page was updated to clarify her roles had been in “retail banking” at Halifax, the Bank of Scotland’s parent company, amid accusations that she lied about her experience.

A source close to Ms Reeves now appears to have blamed a member of staff for the claim that she had been an economist while at Halifax.

The gift that keeps on giving…

Alphaalga · 22/11/2024 20:20

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 15:14

Meanwhile, back in the real world.

Economists have sounded the alarm over a UK recession after data showed Britain’s economy was reeling from the effects of Rachel Reeves’s tax-raising Budget.

Britain is now “close to stagnation” after closely watched PMI figures showed activity among the UK’s private sector companies shrank for the first time in more than a year in November.

Sterling dropped to its lowest against the dollar since May and banking stocks plunged on Friday. Economists said they were “more worried” that Britain’s performance might not be as good as previous forecasts.

Well done Reeves.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, four months of labour isn't responsible for the damage caused by fourteen (more like forty) years of corrupt and incompetent tory free-loaders and liars.

Economists, broadcasters, newspaper owners and others being asked to pay more tax to help reverse the asset -stripping easy ride they and other tory voters have been enjoying for far too long are belly-aching as anticipated.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 20:27

What a hackneyed argument.

Four months of a Labour government, with business and the markets already judging a terrible budget from a fraud of a Chancellor.

For those of you voted this lot in, what have you done?

PandoraSox · 22/11/2024 20:34

Meanwhile, back in the real world, four months of labour isn't responsible for the damage caused by fourteen (more like forty) years of corrupt and incompetent tory free-loaders and liars

Exactly. We don't all have goldfish memories, thankfully.

EasternStandard · 22/11/2024 20:36

PandoraSox · 22/11/2024 20:34

Meanwhile, back in the real world, four months of labour isn't responsible for the damage caused by fourteen (more like forty) years of corrupt and incompetent tory free-loaders and liars

Exactly. We don't all have goldfish memories, thankfully.

If Starmer and Reeves can't get the growth they pledged and their policies stagnate the economy further will you really excuse that?

noblegiraffe · 22/11/2024 20:45

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime you seem to be posting on the wrong thread. This one is about Elon Musk, not Rachel Reeves.

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 20:46

noblegiraffe · 22/11/2024 20:45

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime you seem to be posting on the wrong thread. This one is about Elon Musk, not Rachel Reeves.

Politics.

Labour are in season - they are fair game.

DiggetyDog · 22/11/2024 20:56

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 17:20

Thats the left for you though - anyone who disagrees with them is labelled ‘far right’, is cancelled, deplatformed, or termed a ‘bot’.

They would seek to adopt the moral superiority of ‘do as I say’, not ‘do as I do’.

Its the rank hypocrisy that grates.

And its that sneering attitude that just cost them the US election, and sees the right rising in Europe and elsewhere.

This.
I don’t like Trump or Musk, Twitter/X is an utter cesspit and I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than spend time there.

However I can no longer call myself a lefty, as I’ve considered myself for decades.
I haven’t changed, my opinions remain the same, but the left has shifted into something worrying and so many people seem to have drifted into it without realising. Starmer keeps showing who he is - why aren’t you taking notice?

What strange times we live in. The next few years are going to be interesting to say the least.

DiggetyDog · 22/11/2024 21:01

corrupt and incompetent tory free-loaders and liars.

To be replaced by a corrupt and incompetent labour free loader and liar. 😂
Honestly, you couldn’t make it up. It’d be hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic.

peanutbuttertoasty · 22/11/2024 21:21

DiggetyDog · 22/11/2024 20:56

This.
I don’t like Trump or Musk, Twitter/X is an utter cesspit and I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than spend time there.

However I can no longer call myself a lefty, as I’ve considered myself for decades.
I haven’t changed, my opinions remain the same, but the left has shifted into something worrying and so many people seem to have drifted into it without realising. Starmer keeps showing who he is - why aren’t you taking notice?

What strange times we live in. The next few years are going to be interesting to say the least.

This. I fully believe he is a tyrant in the making. He’s already shown his colours several times over.

Alphaalga · 22/11/2024 22:55

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 20:11

Meanwhile, in other news.

Rachel Reeves’s real job titles during her time at Halifax have been revealed after she deleted “economist” from her LinkedIn profile.

The Chancellor edited her online CV earlier this month to remove a previous claim that she worked as an economist at the Bank of Scotland between 2006 and 2009.

Her LinkedIn page was updated to clarify her roles had been in “retail banking” at Halifax, the Bank of Scotland’s parent company, amid accusations that she lied about her experience.

A source close to Ms Reeves now appears to have blamed a member of staff for the claim that she had been an economist while at Halifax.

The gift that keeps on giving…

Sounds like you're a tory fan, so thought I'd '"find" you a couple of gems about their favourite leader and former prime minister. Then I couldn't stop "finding" them...

The Times sacked Boris Johnson in 1988 for making up a quote in a front-page story.

In 2004 he was sacked as Shadow Arts Minister after aides to leader Michael Howard decided he had lied about an affair.

Discussed having a journalist beaten up in 1990 with former Eton pal Darius Guppy, who was jailed for five years in 1993 for his part in an insurance fraud.

Worsened the plight of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe in loose comments he made as Foreign Secretary in 2017 by wrongly telling MPs the British mum, held in Iran on spying charges, was “teaching people journalism”.

Wrote in the Telegraph in 2002: "It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies."

Speaking of Tony Blair’s trip to the Democratic Republic of Congo, he said: “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.”

In August 2018 he branded Muslim face veils “oppressive”, “weird and bullying” and said it was “absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letterboxes".
Any female student who turned up to school "looking like a bank robber" should be asked to remove their face covering, he added.

Used a racist description of Barack Obama at the height of the EU referendum in 2016.

Propagated the £350m-a-week Brexit lie in 2016.

Breached the Ministerial Code in August 2018 by starting a £275,000-a-year newspaper column just three days after quitting as Foreign Secretary.

In December 2018 he was ordered to apologise for failing to declare £52,723 of income on time.

In April 2019 he was 11 months late registering his 20% share in a property in Somerset.

As mayor, backed a failed plan for a “floating paradise” across the River Thames that blew £43million of public money.

As mayor again, wasted £300,000 on illegal water cannon.

Police were called to the flat he shared with then-girlfriend Carrie Symonds after a blazing row in June 2019.

Took years to confirm how many children he had.

Called gay men 'tank-topped bumboys' in 1998.

Slammed in 2017 when, as Foreign Secretary, he said the Libyan city of Sirte had a bright future - as soon as they "clear the dead bodies away".

In 2017, he recited the opening verse to Rudyard Kipling's colonial-era poem The Road to Mandalay at the Shwedagon Pagoda in Myanmar's capital Yangon.

Berated as Foreign Secretary in 2017 at a Sikh temple for talking about whisky exports to India – despite alcohol being forbidden in the faith.

Forced by tory leader Michael Howard to visit Liverpool in 2004 to apologise after he blamed fans for Hillsborough - and accused citizens of “wallowing in victim status”.

Insulted the entire country of Papua New Guinea in 2006 by joking about their "orgies of cannibalism".

Said in 2002 that Africa needs its old Colonial powers to come back.

Said police spending on child sexual abuse investigations was "spaffed up a wall" in 2019.

Made up a story about small Italian penises as the Daily Telegraph's Brussels correspondent in 1991 by claiming EU chiefs had rejected Italian demands for a smaller minimum condom width.

Angered Italy in 2016 by threatening to stop buying Prosecco in a bad Brexit deal.

In June 2019 during filming of a BBC documentary, it was claimed Boris Johnson branded the French "turds" who "shafted Britain" over Brexit. According to the Daily Mail, the BBC removed the word "turds" from the finished documentary at the request of the Foreign Office.

During the 2016 EU referendum campaign, compared the EU to Adolf Hitler - saying they both wanted a united Europe.

Proclaimed ‘f* business’ in 2018

Alleged by Brian Coleman, who was chair of the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority, to have erupted in fury and said: “F the families! F the families!" of the 7/7 bombings.

Compared Hillary Clinton to a “sadistic” mental health nurse in a 2007 column.

Faced a storm in July 2019 for refusing to stand up for Britain's Ambassador to the US over leaked memos about the "inept" White House.

As Foreign Secretary he blew more than £20,000 of taxpayers’ cash on a visit to Kabul - conveniently timed to miss a Commons vote on expanding Heathrow Airport.

In 2009 he described his column, which at the time paid £250,000, as “chicken feed”.

Made more than £700,000 in earnings alongside his job as an MP through the year after he quit as Foreign Secretary, including a £275,000-a-year column in the Daily Telegraph and more than £400,000 for speeches, including £42,580 for a single speech promoting a No Deal Brexit.

The London Assembly - whose rules forbid favourable treatment to friends - launched an investigation after the relatively novice American, model-turned-tech entrepreneur Jennifer Arcuri, went on three trade missions Bozo led as mayor in 2014 and 2015.

Purged Winston Churchill’s grandson Sir Nicholas Soames and longest-serving MP Ken Clarke, both among 21 who lost the whip followed later by a 22nd, Amber Rudd, for backing a bid to delay Brexit beyond October 31 to prevent no-deal.

Kept trying to use public money to attack Labour in the election.

Unlawfully shut down Parliament in September 2019.

Promised he had a “clear plan.. prepared” for social care in a speech on the steps of Downing Street in July 2019, delivered nothing.

Alleged by Dominic Cummings to be culpable for tens of thousands of avoidable deaths.

Falsely claimed to have ‘got Brexit done’ in 2020.

Ignored a ruling on Priti Patel’s ‘bullying’ in 2020.

Declared he would rather "let the bodies pile high in their thousands" than call another lockdown in the autumn of 2020.

Awarded thousands of lucrative Covid contracts to private companies and tory allies, including for useless PPE.

Refused to sack Dominic Cummings for travelling to Durham and visiting Barnard Castle during the first lockdown.

Repeatedly said things he knew weren’t true including in - April 2022 when he made a claim to Parliament that he already admitted was untrue weeks earlier, and apparently promised not to use again - when he told PMQs there were “more people in work than there were before the pandemic”.

U-turned on his central manifesto vow not to increase taxes in September by hiking National Insurance to fix health and social care.

Forced into two U-turns by footballer Marcus Rashford over feeding hungry children during the holidays.

Splurged taxpayer cash on THREE vanity photographers.

Blew £1m on a non-existent bridge to Northern Ireland

Ordered Tory MPs to rip up ethics rules and block a 30-day suspension of Conservative Owen Paterson for lobbying breaches.

Tried to get tory donor Lord Brownlow to pay for a lavish £110,000+ revamp of his flat.

Lied to Parliament over Downing Street parties during lockdown.

Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 23:12

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 20:11

Meanwhile, in other news.

Rachel Reeves’s real job titles during her time at Halifax have been revealed after she deleted “economist” from her LinkedIn profile.

The Chancellor edited her online CV earlier this month to remove a previous claim that she worked as an economist at the Bank of Scotland between 2006 and 2009.

Her LinkedIn page was updated to clarify her roles had been in “retail banking” at Halifax, the Bank of Scotland’s parent company, amid accusations that she lied about her experience.

A source close to Ms Reeves now appears to have blamed a member of staff for the claim that she had been an economist while at Halifax.

The gift that keeps on giving…

Who gives a fucking shit she was an economist in the bank of England and yes it's a retail bank but who cares less . Right wing media give a fuck meanwhile they still never hammered Boris over all the massive lies he told sweot them all under the carpet

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Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 23:14

Alphaalga · 22/11/2024 20:20

Meanwhile, back in the real world, four months of labour isn't responsible for the damage caused by fourteen (more like forty) years of corrupt and incompetent tory free-loaders and liars.

Economists, broadcasters, newspaper owners and others being asked to pay more tax to help reverse the asset -stripping easy ride they and other tory voters have been enjoying for far too long are belly-aching as anticipated.

Spot on these right wing sycophants fuck then and look at the country's it's a mess but no not their bloody fault . Give labour a chance not even a full year yet

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Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 23:17

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 22/11/2024 20:27

What a hackneyed argument.

Four months of a Labour government, with business and the markets already judging a terrible budget from a fraud of a Chancellor.

For those of you voted this lot in, what have you done?

Loving it what have we done removed all the bull shit culture war bull shit that's all the tories ever had. Seen that labour are trying to stop these firms charge bullshit money for service charged leaseholds I think when some people have flats that they own. Listening yesterday about the scandal. Realising that the labour party js trying very hard to sort a big mess out pissing off the ones thatbdont want to help the society function. Already saying about more policy than ever came out of the tories

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Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 23:18

EasternStandard · 22/11/2024 20:36

If Starmer and Reeves can't get the growth they pledged and their policies stagnate the economy further will you really excuse that?

I want to give them time the same time the tories had let's say 14 years shall we

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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 07:24

Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 23:18

I want to give them time the same time the tories had let's say 14 years shall we

Business and the markets have spoken in less than five months - Labour will not see another term.

It always comes back to finances - its always the pound in people’s pockets, and Labour have done what they always do - mismanage the economy - this time in a period of great geopolitical turmoil.

Buckle up, because its about to get bumpy.

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 07:48

Littlemissgobby · 22/11/2024 23:14

Spot on these right wing sycophants fuck then and look at the country's it's a mess but no not their bloody fault . Give labour a chance not even a full year yet

Right wing sycophants?

Most people I know hate what politics is. Maybe it’s always been thus but we now have internet and nothing can be hidden.

How do we have a near 70m population and these wankers, all of them, are apparently the cream of the crop?

I predict more and more unrest over the next couple of years, Starmer will resign over some other misdemeanour that is uncovered, Farage will scramble and gain popularity (no that doesn’t make me a fan, I’m as worried as the next person, but currently the antics of the left is pushing us further towards a harder right future).

Politics is broken, has been since 2016. Maybe further back. Politicians are trying desperately to hang on to their cushy jobs and their subsidies and gifts. I suspect it’ll all look very different in 5 years time.

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