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What is elon musk problem with Britain?

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Littlemissgobby · 21/11/2024 17:18

Why the fuck is he attacking our gov decisions like inheritance tax on farms? He seems obsessed with Britain ever since the riots . Also can you imagine if sir Allan sugar was posting stuff about American gov policy like Elon musk is.
All because he’s been summoned about disinformation on X That led to the riots.
is he just a right wing twat? He’s gonna have to pipe down if America wants us to be on their side if I was labour I would be getting so annoyed .
side note I sit left centre but Peter Mandelson licking boots of Elon and trump is a piss take.
maybe we are going to have to move closer to Europe as America is unhinged by the sounds of Elon .

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

Elon Musk to ‘summon MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’

World’s richest man responds to UK parliamentarians saying they will call him to testify about X’s role in spreading disinformation during riots

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/21/musk-to-summon-british-mps-to-the-us-to-explain-threats-to-american-citizens-uk-riots

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PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 08:40

I agree with @Littlemissgobby It is ridiculous to make a definitive judgement on Labour when they have been in power forunder 6 months. The right wing press is homing in on every mistake, whilst pretty much ignoring everything else they have done or announced so far.

Reform won't ever get into power, the pool of people willing to vote for them is limited.Thankfully. Has Farage withdrawn the Reform whip from that woman beater yet?

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 08:44

The markets spoke for Truss, as the Labour apologists are ready to remind us; and they will speak for Reeves.

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 08:44

Starmer will resign over some other misdemeanor is uncovered

It would have to be a pretty serious misdemeanour. What do you envisage @DiggetyDog ?

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 08:49

Look at some of the responses. Insightful commentary, eh?

What is elon musk problem with Britain?
Daysnconfuddled · 23/11/2024 08:49

It’ll be over curry or cake during Covid.

EasternStandard · 23/11/2024 09:00

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime is correct it'll come down to finances and if those economic indicators keep progressing as they are pressure from everywhere will mount.

Maybe not all mn but Labour rely on growth and can't keep borrowing as they are. If what is outlined below continues there'll be more 'difficult decisions' but impacting more people

They seem to have lost their lead in a record time, more difficulty for people won't help them. Declining finances will make it tough

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:12

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 07:24

Business and the markets have spoken in less than five months - Labour will not see another term.

It always comes back to finances - its always the pound in people’s pockets, and Labour have done what they always do - mismanage the economy - this time in a period of great geopolitical turmoil.

Buckle up, because its about to get bumpy.

Fuck right off the tories put more taxes up and gave ruined Britain that's why Labour aee having to clean their mess up. It was s teap set by tge tories and if finances are bad people have forgotten what the tories havevdone

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desidi · 23/11/2024 09:17

EasternStandard · 23/11/2024 09:00

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime is correct it'll come down to finances and if those economic indicators keep progressing as they are pressure from everywhere will mount.

Maybe not all mn but Labour rely on growth and can't keep borrowing as they are. If what is outlined below continues there'll be more 'difficult decisions' but impacting more people

They seem to have lost their lead in a record time, more difficulty for people won't help them. Declining finances will make it tough

yep, the Labour party won't do another term and thank fuck for that quite frankly!

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:18

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 07:48

Right wing sycophants?

Most people I know hate what politics is. Maybe it’s always been thus but we now have internet and nothing can be hidden.

How do we have a near 70m population and these wankers, all of them, are apparently the cream of the crop?

I predict more and more unrest over the next couple of years, Starmer will resign over some other misdemeanour that is uncovered, Farage will scramble and gain popularity (no that doesn’t make me a fan, I’m as worried as the next person, but currently the antics of the left is pushing us further towards a harder right future).

Politics is broken, has been since 2016. Maybe further back. Politicians are trying desperately to hang on to their cushy jobs and their subsidies and gifts. I suspect it’ll all look very different in 5 years time.

Unfortunately, you may not be a fan. I don't know, maybe you are, but you are falling for this s** rhetoric. That actually has been pushed by the right-wing Nigel. Farage actually has an MP right now who battered a woman, yet he will claim the immigrants are dangerous to women.
The problem is, we have A Generation of people that vote that do not have any critical thinking about them. If you had critical thinking you would see that the Republican party aka, even the reform party in this country, a f* playing people and telling them what they want to hear and they don't have any answers, in fact, there are a lot of buyer's remorse now. Because republican voters didn't realize some of them that the health care that they need is going to be decimated by donald trump, because they didn't realize that the affordable care act, aka obama care was the same thing.
So to me, that shows. That people are a little bit daft and not realizing what they are voting for people want some sort of miracle, the fact is, if you have a ship going down the sea, it will take ages to turn that big ship around. The Tories got 14 years because we've got such a massive righf wing press and to take it back to Twitter, people like Elon Musk, influencing people where there is hardly any press or influence from the left if you look at readership. Etc.. They get off with so much stuff yet labour have to be so much higher, as I say, with the big ship, it's going to take a long time to get back to where we was and I think they are trying a lot of the weeping and wailing is coming because they are criticising those with money. t's ridiculous, and if people can't see that, then i'm sorry for them.

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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:19

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:12

Fuck right off the tories put more taxes up and gave ruined Britain that's why Labour aee having to clean their mess up. It was s teap set by tge tories and if finances are bad people have forgotten what the tories havevdone

FRO? Really, is that what it has come to?

Did you see the PP’s comments regarding the profanities on X?

Pehaps you can reply to them with your insightful comments.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:19

desidi · 23/11/2024 09:17

yep, the Labour party won't do another term and thank fuck for that quite frankly!

You don't know that so people are going to turn to reform and the Conservative Party, forgetting that they were part of what happened with the pandemic and didn't do a very good job. Kemi badrnoch isn't a great leader bought. Maybe what you're saying is correct, because right from the very start of labour getting in, they didn't even get a chance, because there was the right wing going against them in such crazy crazy storylines, and that's a problem in this country, we have far too much right wing press

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:22

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 08:40

I agree with @Littlemissgobby It is ridiculous to make a definitive judgement on Labour when they have been in power forunder 6 months. The right wing press is homing in on every mistake, whilst pretty much ignoring everything else they have done or announced so far.

Reform won't ever get into power, the pool of people willing to vote for them is limited.Thankfully. Has Farage withdrawn the Reform whip from that woman beater yet?

Exactly. And I'm sick to see it. I'm sick to see how stupid people are falling for it. They have fallen for s* that you read. In the press. Yet, the press forget to say how much that boris johnson did. Or even james o brian says a lot of the stuff.You have to find out yourself when they were in power. The right ring.Press did not give a fair balance.
I don't believe that woman beater has given up his seat and this is a thing about reform party, isn't it? Claiming the immigrants are dangerous to women. When they have their own danger in their own party, bloody hypocrites

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:24

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:19

FRO? Really, is that what it has come to?

Did you see the PP’s comments regarding the profanities on X?

Pehaps you can reply to them with your insightful comments.

You're right, maybe I shouldn't swear? But then may be you would be arguing in good faith, wouldn't you. How can anybody be fine with what the conservatives have done to this country? I look at my community round here. The town is decimated. It's going to take a long time as a previous poster said for labour to get it sorted, they are ready are trying to sort stop. Therefore, the people that need it, not the rich people like the conservatives was

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:26

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 08:44

The markets spoke for Truss, as the Labour apologists are ready to remind us; and they will speak for Reeves.

We shall see, yet interestingly, they're not given these massive warnings that they did with Liz truss. You are saying that labour said that it wasn't labour? That said it, the mark said it as use as yourself. So why bring labour into it, reminding about Liz truss

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EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:32

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:24

You're right, maybe I shouldn't swear? But then may be you would be arguing in good faith, wouldn't you. How can anybody be fine with what the conservatives have done to this country? I look at my community round here. The town is decimated. It's going to take a long time as a previous poster said for labour to get it sorted, they are ready are trying to sort stop. Therefore, the people that need it, not the rich people like the conservatives was

Look, we can talk about the failings of previous Government, but Labour are in power now, and it’s theirs to own.

There is also the element of personal ownership - it’s a hard knock life, and evidently there are a significant number of people unwilling to accept that.

Society is not egalitarian - tax people to the nth degree without reforming the welfare state, and you are on a hiding to nothing. Capital will take flight (is), people will leave or change behaviour to cut exposure.

Labour are economic pygmies, because they are guided by ideology, and lack commercial acumen - take the PS VAT, which has been well covered. Raises nothing, and yet look at the investment it is driving away.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:33

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 08:49

Look at some of the responses. Insightful commentary, eh?

As we all know twitter, it's just full of far right and disgusting trolls.Now, that's why decent people have left to go to blue sky.
So, basically, the party of law and order, which was supposed to be the conservatives and no longer the party of law and order. I mean, look at boris johnson broke in quite a few rules, and now labour are introducing the old style asbo style respect orders giving police more powers to take motorbikes etc off the kids around here that tear local parks up etc.
And this is the response that he gets, because part of me realize is that a lot of thugs and a lot of disgusting people. Are very much into reform and tommy Robinson. Iilk

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noblegiraffe · 23/11/2024 09:33

MN allows swearing. Perhaps those who have a problem with that particular aspect of free speech should go elsewhere.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:36

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:32

Look, we can talk about the failings of previous Government, but Labour are in power now, and it’s theirs to own.

There is also the element of personal ownership - it’s a hard knock life, and evidently there are a significant number of people unwilling to accept that.

Society is not egalitarian - tax people to the nth degree without reforming the welfare state, and you are on a hiding to nothing. Capital will take flight (is), people will leave or change behaviour to cut exposure.

Labour are economic pygmies, because they are guided by ideology, and lack commercial acumen - take the PS VAT, which has been well covered. Raises nothing, and yet look at the investment it is driving away.

Ah you are one of those totally disagree with you. When you talk about ideology, try looking at what the last fourteen years of conservatives did, because they tried the culture war b pande, to them, b that think immigrants are disgusting.
I actually, if you want my opinion would get rid of every private school and they will raise some money and it will go back to state school and maybe it's more about the principle of the fat that in this country, the shoulder of responsibility needs to go on the rich people and those with a bit more. Money than everybody else, because if you can afford to send your child to private school. Even with all the little, oh my god, I can't afford much.You obviously can looking at some of the fees.

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:36

EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime · 23/11/2024 09:32

Look, we can talk about the failings of previous Government, but Labour are in power now, and it’s theirs to own.

There is also the element of personal ownership - it’s a hard knock life, and evidently there are a significant number of people unwilling to accept that.

Society is not egalitarian - tax people to the nth degree without reforming the welfare state, and you are on a hiding to nothing. Capital will take flight (is), people will leave or change behaviour to cut exposure.

Labour are economic pygmies, because they are guided by ideology, and lack commercial acumen - take the PS VAT, which has been well covered. Raises nothing, and yet look at the investment it is driving away.

You say it's labour that needs to own their failings. They've literally not even had a f year yet. And yet, when all the s* that the Conservative Party did under Boris Johnson, oh, the God dam lies people are like. Oh, well, it's alright, it's just this. It's just that well, give labour a bit more of a break then. A few months

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Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:39

I watched Napoleon film the other day. I'm the sort of person that believes they were. The french were right with the guillotine situation. But then what happened was it led to a power vacuum and greedy people just came in top because that's what humans tend to be greedy a.
I look at the fact the our monarch has just cost this country. 72 million pounds for his coronation. Personally, I think labour needs to be making sure. The Crown estate is paying tax. According to the recent documentary and channel four, they are not.
Then I look somebody like elon musk who this is about, a bloodied billionaire, nobody would ever be able to spend that in the whole life. Is he trying to help other people? Is he trying to stamp out world famine or anything like that? No, not a Dickie bird, and you know what? It's the same as that Amazon guy as well. I generally don't understand how people like that.Don't give a s
about other people

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DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 09:40

PandoraSox · 23/11/2024 08:44

Starmer will resign over some other misdemeanor is uncovered

It would have to be a pretty serious misdemeanour. What do you envisage @DiggetyDog ?

No idea. I’m usually a good judge of character though,
Boris Johnson was openly a twat, he puts on a buffoonish air but with everything he wrote and said it was very clear who he was.
Starmer is different. He’s very much a closed book with an image he’s careful to uphold, but there’s hidden stuff, beyond the gifts fiasco. Obviously this is gut feeling and I’d be very happy to be wrong. Time will tell I suppose.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 23/11/2024 09:41

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:36

Ah you are one of those totally disagree with you. When you talk about ideology, try looking at what the last fourteen years of conservatives did, because they tried the culture war b pande, to them, b that think immigrants are disgusting.
I actually, if you want my opinion would get rid of every private school and they will raise some money and it will go back to state school and maybe it's more about the principle of the fat that in this country, the shoulder of responsibility needs to go on the rich people and those with a bit more. Money than everybody else, because if you can afford to send your child to private school. Even with all the little, oh my god, I can't afford much.You obviously can looking at some of the fees.

The highest earning do already shoulder the biggest burden in terms of the tax they pay on their earnings though. If you’re talking about those who funnel money offshore and dodge tax, no one would disagree with that.

It isn’t as cut and dried with private schools. If they all closed, there wouldn’t be enough state places to take those students, class sizes would be even more unmanageable and also don’t forget about the great SEN provisions private schools have. Not all parents with kids at private are rolling in cash.

Littlemissgobby · 23/11/2024 09:41

DiggetyDog · 23/11/2024 09:40

No idea. I’m usually a good judge of character though,
Boris Johnson was openly a twat, he puts on a buffoonish air but with everything he wrote and said it was very clear who he was.
Starmer is different. He’s very much a closed book with an image he’s careful to uphold, but there’s hidden stuff, beyond the gifts fiasco. Obviously this is gut feeling and I’d be very happy to be wrong. Time will tell I suppose.

Everybody that speaks to him everybody that talks to him says he's a decent person. I believe he's a decent person, I believe. Yes, he's going to make mistakes, just like every politician. If anything I don't think he's playing dirty enough, I don't think he's playing dirty enough, I. Have said this about the Democrats I said. If you go to a gun fight, you can't go in there with a sword and they try to be all polite all night when the other side are playing f nasty

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AlisonDonut · 23/11/2024 09:45

The french were right with the guillotine situation

Yeah this is exactly the sort of person who supports the modern Labour party.

Killing the people you don't like is basically fascism.