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Pudding or Dessert - which one is 'posher'?

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WhichOneIsPosher · 05/11/2024 20:10

Sitting watching Bake Off with DH and Alison Hammond has commented in a joking way to Paul Hollywood that he calls dessert 'pudding' instead. DH and I have been debating on whether the word dessert is posher than pudding. What's your thoughts on this vital topic of discussion??

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Katiesaidthat · 07/11/2024 12:03

mitogoshigg · 05/11/2024 20:59

Dessert covers a wider range of sweet food items in my opinion. Puddings are hot served with custard (pie, crumble, suet etc) whereas dessert covers fancy cold creamy cakes etc

Thanks, my idea exactly.

VelvetUnderwear · 07/11/2024 12:10

Pudding is posh. It makes me think of what public school boys call dessert!

Cynic17 · 07/11/2024 12:12

I grew up in a dessert/serviette/lounge household and my mother thought she was being very upmarket. Sadly not.... the worst of all, lower-middle! It took me years to unlearn all this stuff, but it does make a difference as to how people view you. Occasionally, if a non-U word slips out, I have to pretend I'm being ironic 😂

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Floralnomad · 07/11/2024 12:13

We call it pudding in our house .

peachescariad · 07/11/2024 12:15

Brought up with 'afters' - went to quite a posh area for Uni and it soon became pudding 😄
Dessert....never

BlackStrayCat · 07/11/2024 12:16

Pudding.

Mary Berry (to the PP), always says pud.

HRTQueen · 07/11/2024 12:32

StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 18:04

OMG don’t add “nanny” into the mix. Now I don’t know if you’re talking about your grandmother or a lady paid to look after you 😂

😆
My grandmother (which has always sounded a little formal to me)

Jasmin71 · 07/11/2024 12:33

I just see
Pudding = warm afters
Dessert = cold afters

User14March · 07/11/2024 12:42

@StormingNorman or a goat, as my Granny would have said. Shades of dowager duchess.

’Haitch’ another personal bugbear esp when used by our head of English dept. How the chap from Steps coped I’ll never know. Someone will be along to say perfectly correct in Ireland etc.

HousefulofIkea · 07/11/2024 13:03

Thischangeseverything · 05/11/2024 21:22

Amazed by the consensus that pudding is posher. I think dessert is posher - it makes me think of French patisseries! Pudding makes me think of spotted dick and that kind of stodgy school puddings, def not posh!

You've illustrated the point exactly though, the word 'dessert' is all about pretension and aspiring to things people perceive are luxurious/posh. The truly upper class just don't care whether it sounds fancy or gives an impression of something special because they don't care about impressing. Pudding means pudding

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/11/2024 13:17

Where I grew up it was quite a rural / urban thing. I worked in a hotel and the locals in the town always said dessert but the people who came in from the country villages would always say pudding.

yikesanotherbooboo · 07/11/2024 13:36

Pudding

CurlewKate · 07/11/2024 14:15

If you choose the old fashioned way of deciding what's posher, then you choose the word that is least French/more English. So pudding, not dessert(which actually means something else) lavatory, not toilet, living room, not lounge. And in the extreme-looking glass, not mirror.

nomorehocuspocus · 07/11/2024 14:43

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 07/11/2024 07:26

No, pudding is pudding whatever it comprises
Anything else is not upper class

Edited

What about the use of full stops?

Wink
BobbyBiscuits · 07/11/2024 14:56

@CurlewKate haha, yeah probably snobs, rather than posh!

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 07/11/2024 15:19

nomorehocuspocus · 07/11/2024 14:43

What about the use of full stops?

Wink

I am so posh they are irrenevant...
😀

Givemethreerings · 07/11/2024 17:36

Where do we stand these days on the right way to express “please repeat what you said?”

Pardon = French word, non-U, rude

What = English word, U, appropriate

?

TheRutshireWI · 07/11/2024 17:51

Givemethreerings · 07/11/2024 17:36

Where do we stand these days on the right way to express “please repeat what you said?”

Pardon = French word, non-U, rude

What = English word, U, appropriate

?

What? is correct. Pardon is awful and to quote Dame Jilly, is a much worse word than fuck.

DixonDD · 07/11/2024 17:52

BathTangle · 05/11/2024 20:12

Pudding is posher. See U vs non U (Nancy Mitford)

Dessert Isn’t on that list though - it says “sweet”.

When I worked for a posh chef, he said always say “dessert” never “pudding” as it’s “common”.

sanityisamyth · 07/11/2024 19:58

@TheRutshireWI When people "correct" my DS when he says "what?", it really pisses me off. Pardon is a vulgar word.

JaninaDuszejko · 07/11/2024 20:16

So I think of most of the non-U words as lower middle class/upper working class (although mirror and mantlepiece seems to have won everywhere and conversely nobody says cycle rather than bike anymore. Scent v perfume is looking dodgy). I think the upper middle and middle middle have all read their Nancy Mitford and have adapted accordingly. Presumably there are now different markers that the upper class use. Like pegging.

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