Thread 11 Starmer: Will that Phone Call Be To Harris or to Trump? (the decidedly superior looking cats thread)

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5195566-thread-10-starmer-first-female-chancellor-delivers-the-budget?page=40&reply=139578573

My goodness. That says a lot after the damage done by the previous lot. Stunned that you weren't as incensed previously.

As the parent of a young person with quite severe learning disabilities this sums up my thoughts.
Navigating medical treatment on their behalf has been a minefield.
And I am all too aware of how disabled people were treated during Covid. I dread being unable to advocate on her behalf.

Add to this that legislation is often amended/revised/replaced at later dates (often as a point of necessity i'll admit) I dont feel confident that legislation would stay as is.

The cost. Fucks sakes. It had to be done to protect people and property but what a waste of money.

Well, the change to pensions being included in IHT will affect me or rather my DD but i'm not moaning about that to every tom dick and harry.

If you re in Scotland with an estate worth around £3m, then tbh i really don't see why your estate or anyone else, shouldn't pay some tax on it.

Especially as, if memory serves me right, you were boasting about how much money you were making on lamb.

You mention Callaghan and Wilson? under their Govts and Edward Heaths, Farmer go no special treatment at all, you paid full IHT.

My wee farm is well below the threshold. My lamb prices continue to rise but so do costs such as feed, contractors, medicine etc I think the‘boasting’ was related to Brexit. The national sheep flock numbers are falling but there is still a demand for lamb

So why are you so angry @derxa? Why do you think they are venal liars? Why do you hate them so much more than any others before them? What exactly do you dread?

Edit: I do know it’s possible to be angry on behalf of others, but this level of language seems really personal.

Yes it is falling and it wont be helped by the terrible FTA the previous Govt got us all with Aus and NZ either.

Yet you want them back in again? Weird.

I’m angry on behalf of the farmers who are going to have to sell up. Farming is in the blood. I know this is a cliche. I used to be a teacher and before that a salt Being your own boss is fantastic after that. My cousin is over 80 and has poor mobility but she has a few beef animals. Her neighbours help her out. Before retiring she was an accountant in Edinburgh

I rarely ever catch it. However I managed to a) make lunch on time and b) out it on bbc sounds and listen to it as I ate.

Rayner was so cool calm and collected. I enjoyed listening to it as opposed to watching it as I felt you got a different impression.

It's kind of fascinating to see people's outrage on behalf of a few multi millionaires.

But, again, that’s not how I see it. I think he has been straight. I haven’t agreed with everything they’ve done, but I don’t see anything devious.
And to me the Tories are the party of class war. They prioritise themselves and their mates against the ordinary working people - Thatcher totally destroyed working class communities in several parts of the country, for example. I feel like with Labour the aim is fairness. Granted, it’s not always achieved, but this talk of them ‘hating’ particular groups is madness.

This is where I'm at cardi

And me.

Ditto

I don’t want the Tories back in If you read my previous post you would have seen that I just want a sensible government which doesn’t have too much power.

https://bsky.app/profile/pippacrerar.bsky.social/post/3lbfep747wc2m

NEW: MHCLG opens consultation on sweeping right to buy changes
🏠Council tenants to live in home for approx 10yrs (up fr 3) to qualify
🏠New-build social homes exempt
🏠1-for-1 replacement target for councils
🏠Discounts to fall further - to max of 20%
🏠Repaid if tenants sell w/in 10yrs, up from 5

I can't see how anyone could argue with that. Seems pretty fair to me. Let's see how long it takes for a But Angela Raynor thread to appear.

I believe its too early to judge Labour and Starmer after just a few months.

Starmer hasn't more power than any other Govt with a majority, 30 seats or 130, they can vote through what they like.... we'd have to have a multi party coalition for that to change.

AIBU - Rayner destroys Thatcher Right to Buy legacy - Can this Labour Government sink any lower?

I have been through similar and had to make some very hard decisions for my loved one in order that their suffering was not needlessly extended. I really want people in that situation to be allowed to die.

But I am still on the fence because of the concerns my DH has expressed (he has a neurological condition which is degenerative, a type of MND).

It is so difficult.

I'll helpfully share those splinters because I 100% agree with this and I'm in the same situation.

I watched my mum die of cancer and I'm glad she was as pain free as possible and extremely well cared for in a hospice but I think at a certain point assisted dying can be a godsend for sufferers. But I have major questions about competence to make that decision when you're so ill iyswim?

But my ds also has a degenerative neurological condition which is a cousin to MND. His won't affect breathing etc and shouldn't make him really ill. There's no evidence of that other than him losing his mobility. But I wouldn't want it to become something that disproportionately affected disabled people - eg flu would likely affect him more badly and I wouldn't want him treated differently to someone not disabled because of this bill.

It's certainly a worthy debate but it is one that constantly raises more questions.

Interesting list. Not sure all of it is necessary. But more than anything I'm pleased to see the consultation launched and the focus on this issue.

so not long term family farmers - but retiree play farmers who are buying up land as its a fun thing to do in retirement with their nice pensions blocking out young people who want to farm any opportunity to be able to afford to do so.

AIBU is busy fighting off the "Help ! We're all going to die" threads at the moment.

Nope. I inherited my farm from dad. They previously had a large dairy farm which they ran with my brother. Unfortunately my brother died young in an accident. They had to downsize. My father farmed till he was in his nineties. My cousin inherited her small holding from her farming mother. Hope this answers your nasty post.

very subtle

PandoraSox · Today 17:19
I can't see how anyone could argue with that. Seems pretty fair to me. Let's see how long it takes for a But Angela Raynor thread to appear.

DuncinToffee · Today 17:50
very subtle

I grew up near Rayners Lane. Does that count ? 😀