Thread 11 Starmer: Will that Phone Call Be To Harris or to Trump? (the decidedly superior looking cats thread)

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New thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5195566-thread-10-starmer-first-female-chancellor-delivers-the-budget?page=40&reply=139578573

Be a bit more specific

You don't read the Guardian, so what do you read?

Now that is actually funny. Only believe what I post, folks!

It's especially annoying because it's so far from the truth. Nasty.

https://www.forkingpaths.co/p/elon-musks-perfect-disinformation

The Times, Economist, New Statesman, Spectator and Take a Break.

You missed off Mumsnet.

Oh come on - all newspapers have their biases. They are designed to cater to groups. Read a diverse range and you get a better picture.

I read the Spectator and the New Statesman. This used to be standard stuff for an educated middle class rather than being so blinded by ideology that you couldn’t even acknowledge other ideas.

So RW, centrist, LW, RW, dross.

I'd hardly call the Spectator reliable, deeply researched and beautifully composed. Remember this piece?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-surprisingly-decent-proposal/

In fairness it hasnt just been MN and it hasnt just been the last couple of days. But Trump's success has obviously livened up a few of the more aggressive posters.

I read the Reeves thread. It was highly amusing that so few of the most vociferous posters hadn't bothered to read the 'source' and therefore posted drivel unrelated to the opening post.

I had a week without reading the news. It was very pleasant.

(I've been reading The Times every day for decades and really most of it is fantastic partisan dross. Unfortunately it seems to be habit)

Honestly havent forgiven the Spectator for printing the grim article from LLoyd Evans about Professor Lea Ypi.

That’s a bit harsh. Take a Break has higher editorial standards than the Guardian.

I left off Private Eye. That’s a must read. The only blemish is the absolute bollocks they keep printing about the trial of Lucy Letby.

Anyway, the Graun will be bust soon enough. The Observer looks like it’s for the chop already. That is a bit sad, mind; it’s very ancient.

Some of the Spectator is wish fulfillment. I would expect it to be quite nice about Kemi Badenoch for the next six months for example. Likewise the Telegraph. I don’t expect it to post positive stuff on Reeves or Starmer, but the reality is that they will often write articles which suggest that the normal ebb and flow of politics is much worse than it is because it suits them. The Conservatives have just been hammered electorally.

The best journalist writing on politics currently is Andrew Marr. He really does know the right people. He was also very accurate about what Labour would do, and the failures of Tories a year before the last election. He’s in the NS.

Well he did a hatchet job on Badenoch this week so you can’t call him captive. A very unflattering portrait he painted of her.

The Spectator is now owned by Paul Marshall

Same! That's the article I posted just above.

You don't need to explain yourself. We've understood you now.

Andrew Marr on the budget. At least a fair summary of the motivations and risks being taken.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2024/10/rachel-reeves-great-gamble-2

And how do you get the political balance in your reading? Most of us here will look at any source, even if we don't agree with its overall political stance.

Whereas the Telegraph is a shining example of literary excellence? Yeah, sure.

I’ve rather enjoyed the Telegraph and it’s totally over the top posturing. Currently there is a picture of Badenoch standing in front of some agricultural equipment. Plus Alison Pearson, and Toby Young of the Free Speech Union on page 1.

I was taught at school over 35 years ago to read widely but to understand the angle and bias of whatever news I was reading.

I enjoy it. Alistair Heath’s rants are particularly entertaining.

I don’t read the Telegraph. I distrust what it writes unless it’s widely published elsewhere.

I recommend you do the same with the Guardian.

That’s very kind of you.