Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Anyone watching the Budget 2024?

1000 replies

LadyofRutshire · 30/10/2024 12:13

I couldn't find a thread on today's budget. Anyone watching live?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
NorthernGirlie · 30/10/2024 13:46

Selfish ask (not been able to watch) has FE been mentioned? I know olthat over 150 colleges collectively asked for ££ to try to match thr school teachers pay rise

NellieJean · 30/10/2024 13:46

MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot · 30/10/2024 13:11

After 35 years of working we have finally got some money behind us and thinking of estate planning. As my son said, “you mean they even tax you when you’re dead”. Yes son, yes. Despite paying income tax, capital gains tax, tax on savings, VAT, road tax, council tax, etc etc etc, they still come for you after you’re dead. At 40% potentially.

Yes it’s true son after receiving £1 million tax free the estate will be taxed at 40%. However £1 million is still quite a lot of money.

Poffy · 30/10/2024 13:47

Bruisername · 30/10/2024 12:54

Direct access to bank accounts!!! Slippery slope

This is to recover money from fraudsters.

Bruisername · 30/10/2024 13:47

I really hope they follow through on the nhs - money alone will not solve the problems so I can only hope their reforms are well thought through and they don’t rush it

Gunnersforthecup · 30/10/2024 13:47

It seems to be going on longer than it was supposed to?

timetodecide2345 · 30/10/2024 13:47

Who is the drag queen sat next to Jeremy *unt?

ViciousCurrentBun · 30/10/2024 13:48

FE has been mentioned @NorthernGirlie there was some more money but apologies I can’t remember how much

TheyAllFloatDownHere · 30/10/2024 13:48

Bruisername · 30/10/2024 13:47

I really hope they follow through on the nhs - money alone will not solve the problems so I can only hope their reforms are well thought through and they don’t rush it

Me too. Yes, it will take funding but it will also take careful and clever strategy and implementation and I really hope they can do it.

LadyofRutshire · 30/10/2024 13:48

NHS plan is ambitious I hope that it pans out as planned.

OP posts:
Bruisername · 30/10/2024 13:48

Poffy · 30/10/2024 13:47

This is to recover money from fraudsters.

Slippery slope because once they’ve established the principle it can be broadened.

there are already provisions to freeze and condiscate proceeds if crime

HalloweenSmoke · 30/10/2024 13:48

NorthernGirlie · 30/10/2024 13:46

Selfish ask (not been able to watch) has FE been mentioned? I know olthat over 150 colleges collectively asked for ££ to try to match thr school teachers pay rise

Not much said and nothing about student finance.

InMySpareTime · 30/10/2024 13:48

It's a new govt budget, the previous decade or so were continuation budgets so had less in the way of content than this one.

BellyPork · 30/10/2024 13:49

Bruisername · 30/10/2024 13:47

I really hope they follow through on the nhs - money alone will not solve the problems so I can only hope their reforms are well thought through and they don’t rush it

Still, I'd rather the 3 billion per annum to Ukraine went to the NHS instead.

Rinoachicken · 30/10/2024 13:49

all the NHS seemed to be focused on physical health? Has there been mention of mental health and social care at all?

TheyAllFloatDownHere · 30/10/2024 13:50

I know there are aspects to the budget that worry people and I don't want to diminish those worries. But, for me, it was a well balanced budget that was nowhere near as harsh for 'normal' people as I thought it might be. And I thought it was delivered well.

Bruisername · 30/10/2024 13:50

She did mention social and mental health but they don’t have the plan yet I don’t think

Witchlite · 30/10/2024 13:50

Negroany · 30/10/2024 13:22

No, that's not right, this person is talking about a dependent's pension, which is income.

Inherited pensions is where you inherit the 'pot', then there is currently no IHT between spouses, so would be exempt of IHT (not of income tax) but if it's not the spouse (i.e. goes to offspring, or anyone else actually) then it's added to other inheritance and the first £325k is IHT free for an individual.

Absolutely, defined benefit pensions ie Politicians, police, teachers NHS etc will carry on as before.

For all the people in defined contribution schemes, rather than benefit schemes, which are almost invariably in the private sector, will find their tax “pot” forms part of the funds used to calculate IHT. This will put a much larger group of people in frame for IHT.

it should be noted that Gordon Brown’s scrapping of the S242 claims for pension funds, exacerbated the closure of many defines benefit schemes, with most private companies now offering the less advantageous defined contributions.

This is not a neutral thing, or a good one. It is a raid (yet again) on pension funds - that unsurprising won’t hit MPs

timetodecide2345 · 30/10/2024 13:50

Wonder who will staff these diagnostic centres. Nursing applicants down 40%.

Dweebie · 30/10/2024 13:50

NorthernGirlie · 30/10/2024 13:46

Selfish ask (not been able to watch) has FE been mentioned? I know olthat over 150 colleges collectively asked for ££ to try to match thr school teachers pay rise

She said 300 million for FE I think? Can’t see that going far though. I agree FE salaries have fallen way behind schools at this point.

FarmGirl78 · 30/10/2024 13:50

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 30/10/2024 13:39

The profits are my husbands salary which, last year, was less than a train driver.

That's a salary for someone with over 25 years experience, who is a specialist in his field and frequently consults on difficult cases across the country. He could walk into any role across the country and earn double what he does. But he doesn't - why? Because he owns two vet practices that are some of the few that have not been swept up by 'big companies,' (despite the VERY lucrative opportunities that have been presented to him). Big companies charge far more than he does.

But he and the practices are going to be buggered by this budget - because ultimately it's either he sacks people, or he takes home even less than he already does (not an option when you have kids and bills) or he increases fees on all patients.

Edited

So after he pays himself there's no actual profit? Nothing left? No dividends?

ViciousCurrentBun · 30/10/2024 13:51

I wonder what the cost of administering waiting lists have been since they were introduced.?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 30/10/2024 13:51

Spasisters · 30/10/2024 13:33

@Brananan Wow that’s some amount. I thought she had said something about smaller businesses. Can’t remember the ins and outs but the exemptions allowing them to employ 5 full time staff.

Edited

The NI on 5 full time staff on minimum wage is well over the small business relief allowance, which I think she has increased to £10k hasn't she? So I don't know how she arrives at the 5 full time staff number...it seems incorrect, but we need more detail...

ilovesooty · 30/10/2024 13:51

I don't see what Hunt is finding so amusing.

CompleteOvaryAction · 30/10/2024 13:51

MichaelandKirk · 30/10/2024 13:44

Thanks for the people who said its still free of Inheirtance tax HOWEVER the devil will be in the detail. Pension pots have always been looked at seperately. They were attractive because you could leave your pot to your children for example and they wouldnt pay any tax. That ability has now gone.

You needed to pass away before 75 years old for this to be allowed. That is clearly not controlled by anyone.

It was attractive and a way to pass on considerable amounts of money to others as opposed to your spouse. I know my DH wont live to 75. My Financial Advisor said to watch out for this one..

So it might not be as clear cut as others have said.

I think this measure is fair enough (assuming spouse exemption will apply). The IHT-free pension pot has tended to be a surprise bonus for beneficiaries, so I don't think adding it to the estate for IHT will make much difference to families but it will raise a modest amount of IHT.
The detail in the legislation bringing it into effect will be interesting and could have unintended consequences.
Pensions are still attractive from an income tax POV, so there is no point making them IHT free as well.

Nordione1 · 30/10/2024 13:51

Farming's stuffed then.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.