Kemi badenoch now against autistic children

[Hunnymonster1]

What is wrong with her? Just read that the children commision is saying average wait like to get diagnosed as autistic is 4 years.
So kemi banging on about how parents are pushing gor diagnosis because they see how much extra money etc autistic children get at school is wrong.
The fact is I woukd think judging by lbc many kids are not getting the support that they need.
So js this about her saying the conservatives need to save tax by not helping people or children with autism and mental health issues.
Bare in mind she said similar about maternity pay last week makes me think she's like Liz truss wants to cut alot of stuff
How the hell can anyone support this?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-autism-tory-leadership-buckland-b2628845.html

She has no compassion or humility especially to those she considers worthless.
I'm on enhanced PIP myself.

It's already been pointed out that an autism diagnosis does not mean entitlement to free school transport, nor does it mean a school gets any extra funding. So this 'point' Kemi was making is what we in the biz would call 'a lie'. Colour me surprised.

They are more likely to do that if the get support at an early age. Not wait years for a diagnosis or have their support withdrawn because Kemi Bandenoch thinks they don't really need it.🙄

Just to be clear I think any child with needs must have them met but I do believe many children needs are put down tond when they are mh needs or they are dx as nd but told that this presents as mh needs. I think this is more of an issue for those that wouldn't have previously recieved an autism dx (high fuctioing/ aspergers).

I wholly agree with the previous poster who said wrote about te nd movement being dangerous, it is and especially for those with severe or profound autism needs and no mh needs. I will welcome the break up of the dx and like the new use of profound autism to distinguish those with severe autism from those with autism and severe mh needs whichare vastly different things.

I think KB is speaking to an increasing proportion of the population who are getting fed up of autism being used as a reason for adaptations when previously they wouldn't.

She's a Tory; why does this surprise you OP?

I think KB is speaking to an increasing proportion of the population who are getting fed up of autism being used as a reason for adaptations when previously they wouldn't.

I would call that proportion of the population "ignorant fuckwits". When reasonable adaptions are not provided, autistic people end up not working or going to school.

The reasons adaption are made now when they previously wouldn’t is because we understand autism more now. It’s called progress. And I think further down the line if we got it right it would save a fortune in mental health issues! It’s why early intervention is important. I see the difference the right support makes to my child. How dare people who don’t know him say he doesn’t deserve it when so many professional have recognised that he does.

There's also understanding retrospectively. I said to my youngest sister, who also has some traits and now sense checks some stuff with me and her friends , that i thought so re may dad , born 1947, had some autistic traits. Prime example, I phoned in distress to say I was getting divorced, his response was ' we don't do divorce in this family '. What he meant was that there hadn't been one, and my mum took over the phone after clonking him on the head with it.

His brother emigrated to Canada the year I was born, they rarely talked. My youngest sis goes out there a lot they like hiking. She suggested mid hike that he might be autistic. Uncle was silent for about a mile. Then agreed. They now talk much more as he has a different perspective on dad.
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Entirely my fault, as I worked in a psychology dept for 17 years, but their new relationship pleases me.

Have you ever wondered why those with ND commonly also present with mental health needs?

@Icanthinkformyselfthanks the level of support needed by 'all children' that can be provided by parents is a world away from the level of support required by an ASD child.

Parents need specialist support from autism outreach LA programmes an IEP at the least, probably an ECHP and maybe specialist school.

The pamphlet puts anxiety first and therefore plants the idea that autism is maybe less of an issue. Of course because it is up to the individual to deal with it - nothing is serious and deserves state funding.

Autism is a life long disability. You can't take meds or meditate your way out of being autistic. I believe that figures show that less than 20% autistic adults are in employment. That includes my son. I am a carer. Do the tories want to pay me what I'm worth or cut disability payment?

She has a core audience that believes this shit.

“In my day it was known as teenage angst, clip round the ear and they soon got over it””.

That sort of thing.

my DF ( now deceased) undiagnosed severely dyslexic, no diagnosis or support in those days so left school at 14 after regular canings for being stupid and worked manual jobs and all his life and we needed benefits support.

My DS diagnosed severely dyslexic early in primary school , early intervention and support ( no additional funding received by school for him) throughout school, 1st class degree from top university now at 25 is a higher rate tax payer.

Support matters - and to those who say it was fine in my day - it wasn't.

More Tory lies and nonsense. Is anyone really surprised?!

Only around 5-6% of children go to private school in the uk. Relying on voters whose children are in private school would not get you very far in an election.

I wouldn't put anything past Kemi "the thing that is wrong with this country is maternity pay is just too generous" Badenock.

To be fair she wasn't educated in the UK before she was 16 therefore was unaware what was around for children with various disabilities in parts of London and Surrey including very close to where she was born and lived as a 16 year old.

She would have been horrified what Thatcher's government allowed to be funded in my area and would have decided that some of the children I went to primary and secondary school with needed no help. My primary school had a specialist unit for a particular disability while my secondary school knew who they could help e.g the kids who the secondary school with the specialist unit didn't.

What i find astounding is the idea that not only autistic adults but autistic CHILDREN should “work on themselves” and not expect adaptations at school? I nean really who is she thinking will support this?

Have you ever been in a primary school classroom? (or any classroom?)

I love her quote I think there is nothing wrong with being woke

I know right but man alive these lot just lately are really inept

I find Kemi Badenoch utterly terrifying, I think she really does believe this. She is a very small state Conservative. I also find it worrying that people on the right do genuinely think that she is an original thinker, I know some sensible people who really rate her. I think she is clever, but also a dangerous ideologue

Well the charity national autistic charity have said her comments are dangerous and offensive https://www.learningdisabilitytoday.co.uk/news/kemi-badenochs-views-on-autism-are-offensive-says-national-autistic-society-calls/

Someone on here described her as a cognitive giant. There is something about some Tory women that send chills down your spine.

Very good opinion piece here what sort of Tory would drag autistic children into the culture war kemi would? @pasta yes she’s nasty and I honestly think some of these like her ilk are a little bit sociopathic they really don’t care https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/14/autistic-children-culture-wars-kemi-badenoch

She is not a cognitive giant.

She is more like Liz Truss than people give her credit for. There is no vast cunning intellect behind these reductive statements. She is as simple as she appears.

That is the source of her appeal. There is no crack mind behind what she says