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Kemi badenoch now against autistic children

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Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 13:30

What is wrong with her? Just read that the children commision is saying average wait like to get diagnosed as autistic is 4 years.
So kemi banging on about how parents are pushing gor diagnosis because they see how much extra money etc autistic children get at school is wrong.
The fact is I woukd think judging by lbc many kids are not getting the support that they need.
So js this about her saying the conservatives need to save tax by not helping people or children with autism and mental health issues.
Bare in mind she said similar about maternity pay last week makes me think she's like Liz truss wants to cut alot of stuff
How the hell can anyone support this?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-autism-tory-leadership-buckland-b2628845.html

Kemi Badenoch faces backlash for ‘stigmatising’ autism

Tory leadership hopeful faces another row after endorsing report that suggested people with the condition get ‘economic advantages and protections’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-autism-tory-leadership-buckland-b2628845.html

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Thevelvelletes · 14/10/2024 13:42

Is there no one these fuckers won't vilify.
The disabled, benefit claimants pip /ADP in particular, immigrants and now autistic children.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/10/2024 13:43

Stupid woman spouts uninformed shite about stuff she knows nothing about.🙄

Is this Tory leadership contest to be fought on performative cruelty?

MrTiddlesTheCat · 14/10/2024 13:47

Of course she wants to cut a lot of stuff, she's a tory. That's what being a tory means. At the core they don't believe the state should be responsible for anything other than defence and law order. If they aren't trying to do away with something, it's only because they don't think they can get away with it ...yet.

BiggerBoat1 · 14/10/2024 13:48

Shame on the Tories for putting these two up as the best they have to offer.

murasaki · 14/10/2024 13:53

She's really going for it, isn't she. The only vaguely sane one was Tugendhat, which was why he was knocked out early. One can only assume they really really don't want to win the next election. Whoever wins won't still be leader by that point anyway.

ARichtGoodDram · 14/10/2024 13:56

The Tories are very good at this kind of thing when it comes to disability.

They are somehow able to convince people, repeatedly, that they aren't going after proper genuine disabled or sick people. Just the ones after the money.

Bluefields96 · 14/10/2024 14:00

She is talking to the Tory Party - MPs and the wider membership in the country. She is not addressing the general public.

Among her target audience there will be many who think that diagnoses of autism ( and other special needs anxiety, ADHD etc) have become too common and that some parents and schools are keen to label children because it
a. gets them more money/time in exams
b. excuses inadequate parenting.

I imagine that message will go down well with many in the party.

murasaki · 14/10/2024 14:00

They also maybe trying to out Reform Reform at this point in case more people jump ship.

Or they genuinely mean it. Which is much more worrying.

Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:02

Surely though some of these tory members may have autistic kids themselves or grandkids. Or is it that many are wealthy so use private education and so don't care what she says. I mean the pensioners got pissed off over winter fuel allowance but yet when the tories aim stuff at the youth they don't care

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Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:03

Bluefields96 · 14/10/2024 14:00

She is talking to the Tory Party - MPs and the wider membership in the country. She is not addressing the general public.

Among her target audience there will be many who think that diagnoses of autism ( and other special needs anxiety, ADHD etc) have become too common and that some parents and schools are keen to label children because it
a. gets them more money/time in exams
b. excuses inadequate parenting.

I imagine that message will go down well with many in the party.

I think uiu right but like I say surely some bearing in mind how many have autism must have kids or grandkids themselves with diagnosis

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Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:04

MrTiddlesTheCat · 14/10/2024 13:47

Of course she wants to cut a lot of stuff, she's a tory. That's what being a tory means. At the core they don't believe the state should be responsible for anything other than defence and law order. If they aren't trying to do away with something, it's only because they don't think they can get away with it ...yet.

You would have thought covid showed us we need the state

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 14/10/2024 14:06

Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:02

Surely though some of these tory members may have autistic kids themselves or grandkids. Or is it that many are wealthy so use private education and so don't care what she says. I mean the pensioners got pissed off over winter fuel allowance but yet when the tories aim stuff at the youth they don't care

But their kids will be genuinely autistic kids unlike all these badly behaved kids whose parents have managed to get misdiagnosed labels to excuse their poor parenting.

TinkerTiger · 14/10/2024 14:06

cant read the link

SensibleSigma · 14/10/2024 14:06

When I was in SEN (long ago) they tried to move away from labels towards funding needs. So regardless of a child’s diagnosis, the need was addressed. The hope was to limit time and money lost to processes and spend it directly on support. I don’t recall it being successful.

ARichtGoodDram · 14/10/2024 14:06

Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:02

Surely though some of these tory members may have autistic kids themselves or grandkids. Or is it that many are wealthy so use private education and so don't care what she says. I mean the pensioners got pissed off over winter fuel allowance but yet when the tories aim stuff at the youth they don't care

Very often that's seen as being different.

David Cameron and his wife claimed DLA for their son. They were fully entitled to do so.

After his death the reforms brought in by the Tories made DLA considerably harder to claim for others. Zero sympathy from Cameron despite having been there himself.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 14/10/2024 14:07

@Hunnymonster1 , I haven’t read exactly what Kemi said but I do believe there are some parents who for a variety of reasons seek to label their children as autistic. This is not good for society as a whole and especially not for the children concerned. I have reached this conclusion after conversations with medical doctors.

Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:07

MrTiddlesTheCat · 14/10/2024 14:06

But their kids will be genuinely autistic kids unlike all these badly behaved kids whose parents have managed to get misdiagnosed labels to excuse their poor parenting.

On average it takes 4 years to get an autism diagnosis so if your child has been diagnosed as autistic by a professional then they must be autistic

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Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:08

TinkerTiger · 14/10/2024 14:06

cant read the link

Google it it's on all papers atm lbc talking about it right now

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wulves · 14/10/2024 14:08

People just say you paid for a diagnosis, shopped around til you found one, blah blah…nothing is good enough for these deniers.

murasaki · 14/10/2024 14:09

SensibleSigma · 14/10/2024 14:06

When I was in SEN (long ago) they tried to move away from labels towards funding needs. So regardless of a child’s diagnosis, the need was addressed. The hope was to limit time and money lost to processes and spend it directly on support. I don’t recall it being successful.

This sounds eminently sensible to me.

LauraMipsum · 14/10/2024 14:11

Wow, she is less emotionally intelligent than my 10 year old's peers. When they were all six, the rest of the class thought it was unfair that DC was allowed a fidget toy and could go and bounce on a bouncy ball at times through the day, because they too would have liked to go and bounce on a bouncy ball - who wouldn't? Now they're all ten, they have grasped the difference between wants and needs.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 14/10/2024 14:12

Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:07

On average it takes 4 years to get an autism diagnosis so if your child has been diagnosed as autistic by a professional then they must be autistic

I agree. It took 15 years for my DD to get hers. 38 years for mine. And 52 years for DH, despite him attending a special school as a child. Sadly Badenoch and her ilk still think we're all faking for the benefits.

Hunnymonster1 · 14/10/2024 14:12

Blimey in the pamphlet it says that autistic children are entitled to transport to school as if that's bad . Maybe it's cos they need it like how hateful can You be that you begrudge that . Just said this on lbc Sheila fogarty program

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ByTealShaker · 14/10/2024 14:12

SensibleSigma · 14/10/2024 14:06

When I was in SEN (long ago) they tried to move away from labels towards funding needs. So regardless of a child’s diagnosis, the need was addressed. The hope was to limit time and money lost to processes and spend it directly on support. I don’t recall it being successful.

My DH currently works in SEN, and we are raising a SEN child. As far as my opinion on it I think there are plenty of instances where the lack of a diagnosis and recognition of need is very important and can and does release funding for schools and parents / carers to utilise. But the system as a whole does not function.

DrivingThePlot · 14/10/2024 14:14

I still boil with rage, even now (DS is 15 & autistic) at the message his primary school headteacher sent to all parents stating that it was her belief that parents were too quick to seek a diagnosis of ASD or ADHD for their child and should just accept that their child is just a little quirky and get on with life. She meant there would be no help or support at school from anyone and if you didn't agree, you could just remove your child and go elsewhere. I don't understand how she's still there, still unofficially showing children the door, supported by her unsympathetic staff.

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