What famous people have you lost respect for?

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There are currently quite a few I have lost respect for, who are yours and why??

Why do you assume that Gibson and Diddy were repected figures? I've never respected either. I did respect David Tennant. His Hamlet was the best I've ever seen. He is a superb actor, but I can't respect anyone who tells a black female politician to shut up because he doesn't think she should have the right to say something he doesn't agree with. As to your disingenuous line about 'wearing a tee shirt', would you like to tell us what was written on it?

Exactly. I think most of Kemi's opinions are abhorrent, but I would never say she, or any woman should shut up and not express their opinion. I consider myself very much a leftie, but some people on the left have gone completely insane to the point they're starting to act like authoritarian dictators.

It's like living in 1984 sometimes!

Years ago maybe 16/17 years ago, when I was breastfeeding my youngest daughter, I took my children to Bestival. I remember that a famous chef had a stall selling food, cakes and coffees and he was helping out in the stall. My daughter was a voracious feeder and I could not keep up so I explained it to the chef at the time and asked whether I could try her with a cup of warm milk as I had a bottle for her but had run out of milk. He said, “mhhh, I don’t know how much I could charge you for that. What about £4?”. I was shocked (it was more than a coffee at the time and this was 17 years ago but I still remember the price) but I paid as I needed the milk.

We went to a few coffee/food stalls over that weekend to top up on milk and not one charged us, even though we offered to pay. We saw the chef everywhere and started calling him Hugh Fearlessly-Charges-Foritall when he was nearby.

We also met Mr Tumble (Justin) with his niece or nephew and he was the loveliest man you could ever meet.

Yes I think some people are missing the fact that many feminists already filtered out the paedos and other overtly abusive males from the list "celebrities I respect". I personally engage very little with celebrity culture because I can't stand it but I do like music and comedy. I tend to ignore the opinions of my favourite musicians (many of whom definitely disagree with me) because the kind of music I like is not personality / image driven, I let the music speak for itself.

Sadly it's much harder to ignore the misogyny from comedians because their work is largely verbal and their opinions feature heavily. There are many who have disappointed me but I save my anger for posh men because they have far too much power and owe it to the world to check their privilege. Hence Buxton.

Any of the ones who didn't speak up against the genocide in Gaza and the bombings in Lebanon and Yemen
Selfish and money and fame obsessed

Not that I was a fan but I wouldn’t be now. What a douche!

MadeleineMummy · Today 15:33

We saw the chef everywhere and started calling him Hugh Fearlessly-Charges-Foritall when he was nearby.

My ex called him Huge Furry Shitting-Stool.

Hi, Bunny!

It's a great story, though! 😄

Adam Kay.

While there were a few things in his book that felt a bit off, overall I felt respect for him in that profession and the hardships he endured. But hearing about the two surrogates he used just put me right off him.

He has a rather unsavoury reputation on here. If you share a bed with him then you need to check your hair in the morning as it may have a 'wet, salty patch'

Christ!

Posts tend to disappear when it's mentioned so don't be surprised if it gets deleted

Eurgh what the hell, what a dirty little fucker he is @TWETMIRF who found that out?

Don't know, I heard it on here. As always we can never know if it's true unless there is proof but it's grim

It is grim as fuck, grubby little minger, yuck.

I wonder if the reason that some people have lost respect for the HP actors is because the platform in which they are able to be seen as influential is directly as a result of JK Rowlings work and then they chose to directly call her out in an unnecessarily personal way. JKRs response was also petulant for someone who is the "adult" in the situation.

There is a big difference between being critical someone's process or politics and insulting them directly which is where I think a lot of actors specifically fall down. Politicians and stand-ups spend years finding the nuance on calling out people and insulting them either for entertainment or power, but actors- just simply don't possess this cache in society. They just simply aren't skilled or tough enough to handle people disagreeing with them and to tell whether it's a critique or an insult.

David Tennant clearly wants to support his child but can't handle the reasonable concerns of many that comes with being a public figure in this space.

I do agree that one should not be abusive or threatening to anyone. I do hate Kemi Badenoch (not quite as much as Nigel Farage or Richard Tice or Lee Anderson, but getting there), and don't feel the same way about Rosie Duffield or J K Rowling or Anna Soubry or Gina Miller or Diane Abbott or Angela Rayner or Jess Phillips or the many other women who have been subject to repeated abuse.

I agree that female MPs and public figures receive many more death threats than males and that it is very scary. Though some male politicians have been subjected to extreme abuse: David Amess was murdered; Mike Freer stood down after repeated threats culminating in an arson attack.

Where I do disagree is with the idea that Kemi Badenoch has a particular right to speak for women just because she is a woman and was democratically elected. Many women disagree with her on all sorts of issues. Being democratically elected just gives someone the right to speak for (a majority in) their constituency, not for an entire sex or ethnic group.

Though this is derailing the thread, I disagree with Helen Joyce, as I do with anyone, left or right, who speaks of 'the ideological capture of a huge number of our institutions' on almost any issue. It's almost always a conspiracy theory

Just to clarify that of course no one, even those with repulsive views like Badenoch or Farage should be abused or threatened- e.g. much as I detest Donald Trump, the assassination attempts were beyond the pale.

Except that it's not a conspiracy theory, is it?

This philosophical belief - that whether you are a woman or a man is a question of identity, and that how you identify is more important than what sex you are - has become accepted as incontrovertible, incontestable fact in so many of our institutions (including a huge number of taxpayer funded ones). But it is not a fact, it is a belief, and one not shared by a majority of people.

In relation to single sex spaces, I believe Kemi Badenoch does indeed speak for most women, whether you agree with her other political positions or not.

of course they think they're better than us. but they're not. there is no such thing as a magic gold hat gene that makes them better than us.

is it likely to you that she didn't so much as whack it into google just in case there were negative connotations? in this day and age?

two toxic people that brought out the worst in each other.

is it likely to you that she didn't so much as whack it into google just in case there were negative connotations? in this day and age?

Yes, it's much much more likely than that she named her pseudonym after an obscure Scottish gay conversion therapist, on the assumption of some weird misogynistic man. Hope that helps.

Do you know Crowley, they've taken the word "gullible" out of the Oxford English Dictionary?

And just a reminder that pint sized misogynist David Tennant didn't just openly abuse Kemi Badenoch, but also all women who speak up that they don't believe men can be women.