What famous people have you lost respect for?

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There are currently quite a few I have lost respect for, who are yours and why??

Perfectly put.

Er, "great actors like Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson"? regardless of whatever opinions they have given about anything, any scene they appear in would be less wooden if you threw an IKEA chair into it.

Love how it's always on stuff like trans /women's rights threads you'll have people liking an actress until she comes out as the "wrong sort"" of woman in her opinions and then it's like "well I never liked her anyway and and and her acting SMELLS!"
😂
Bet she's like "oh noes, hit me where it hurts, my acting skills!"
lol

@TofuTart A bit like how loads of people loved Harry Potter until JKR talked about women’s rights and then suddenly people were telling her on Twitter that she’d broken their heart and they were burning her books?

(And she didn’t give a shit 😂)

Loved her tweet telling someone she gets same royalties whether they read or burn her books

Some of them were even buying the books to burn which is a whole new level of crazy!

I don't remotely think Radcliffe or Watson owe Rowling anything, but they are objectively terrible actors.

There's a very direct connection between respect for someone with great talent, and the loss of that respect when you learn that this person believes women are inferior to men, and our rights to safety, dignity and decorum in same-sex spaces, and to success in our own sports and awards, doesn't matter at all to them.

I can't imagine why you would not make that connection yourself.

Try as people want to be inclusive we still live in a gonochoric society that is hard gendered by biology. There are the 5% intersex and the 30-40 subdivisions of these based on chromosomes, genitalia, reproductive organs, hormones, physical features, body hair, identification and socialisation. Then there are the 5% of people, who are not comfortable in their bodies based on how they identify. So in totality I have sympathy for both intersex and trans people but for the 40+ % of women who are biologically born with female genitalia, female reproductive organs and produce female reproductive hormones, oestrogen, progesterone and (a small amount of) testosterone, have XX chromosomes and bear female characteristics and face gender based violence, discrimination and prejudice we should not have to subsume our rights for the sake of another marginalised minority. We should work together to find accommodation but not at the expense of our rights, safety, protections and comfort, in a democracy we should take a minority into consideration so that they are not totally oppressed but neither should we give up our rights.

Eddie Izzard - when he said (to paraphrase) ‘these are not women’s clothes, they are my clothes’ - respect! Eddie Izzard deciding he’s a woman/trans when it suits him to get the job - respect goes down the plug hole of the sink in whichever women’s toilets he has decided to invade.

Yes that was such a disappointment, as was him playing the victim after he scared those teenage girls in the ladies.

GailBlancheViola · Today 12:26

great actors like Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson

Great actors? In what universe?

The ones where the socks end up, from the washing machine Portal?

Hard-sexed by biology, not hard-gendered. There are loads of women out there who don't like pink.

The proportions who have a DSD or gender dysphoria are more like 0.5%, not 5%.

But otherwise you are spot-on.

Thank you very much.
I will try that out.

Johnny depp. I can't believe I fell for the sham show that was the 'trial' at the time. It was a smear campaign, he didnt care about the outcome. He and his lawyers were just after sound bites to flood social media with, and so many of us fell for it. Afterwards, I read up on the original trial, and the evidence used to gain him the title 'wife beater', and it was damming. So much evidence was omitted in the US trial, which some of his die hard fans clubbed together to pay for access to, which once they realised it was pages and pages of evidence of evidence against depp they swiftly pretended it never existed. It was all pr, laughing and clipping the term 'mega pint' as if a reason to not take Amber's lawyers seriously, when in fact it was a direct quote from Johnny in his uk trial, insinuating that amber shit the bed, when there were text logs back and forth where they acknowledge their dog shitting in the bed was a common problem. Everything contrived, done to humiliate and deflect. Amber wasn't a perfect victim, therefore she is guilty, where as Johnny doesn't need to be perfect, people will accept a vile, aggressive, drunk abuser of a man over an imperfect victim.

Mel Gibson said Jews were responsible for all the wars. So yep, he seems pretty shitty. Not to mention he abused his wife, and called Winona Ryder and oven dodger. He also asked a gay man if he had AIDS.

Diddy has been arrested for heinous crimes and we've seen him attack his girlfriend.

Somehow though this thread is more interested in insulting the kids from Harry Potter for having a different opinion on trans rights, and David Tennant for wearing a shirt.

I love Mumsnet. It really is the epitome of privilege.

Yep this. People are entitled to say they have lost respect for the people who have decided to shit all over womens rights - and their safety and welfare. (And they're entitled to explain their reasons why, and talk about it on this thread.) Hell will freeze over before I will be shut down by random posters, some who I believe are just purporting to be a woman.

@MaidOfAle (at 13.12,) how interesting that link is! A 'concern troll.' Never heard of that before. Definitely a few on this thread! They're best ignored to be honest. I CBA with them, and won't engage with this type of poster.

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I’m guessing that People didn’t have respect for ‘diddy’ in the first place… (or had no view of him, given he’s an American with minimal visibility here)

most people liked (or had no view of) David Tennant so it was disappointing that he is a bigoted misogynistic twat.

no one likes people who are ungrateful people pleasing arsehole turncoats, so it was disappointing to many that the hp actors became (or perhaps always were) just that.

and as always - thinking one thing doesn’t exclude being able to think other things.

When 'the kids from Harry Potter', and David Tennant speak their branes, because of their privilege, it has real-world consequences for lots of kids out there.

Mel Gibson said Jews were responsible for all the wars. So yep, he seems pretty shitty. Not to mention he abused his wife, and called Winona Ryder and oven dodger. He also asked a gay man if he had AIDS.

Diddy has been arrested for heinous crimes and we've seen him attack his girlfriend.

To be relevant to this thread you'd have to have liked them in the first place 🤷‍♀️ I'm not disappointed in Diddy and Mel Gibson because I always thought they were wankers.

any bus glinner is under, he put himself there.

what's he done?

and wasn't his wife, who I massively respect him for being such a great carer to during her dementia, but she was German wasn't she?
I love the sex pistols.
I love PIL.
John Lydon is a hypocritical twat.
but he did go up in my estimation for how he took care of his wife at the end. he took his wedding vows seriously. still a twat, but I admired that.

How so?

he's openly supportive of his nonbinary child and other nonbinary and trans people. apparently that makes him a bad person.