Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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@another2cats Yes, even on high profile documents such as the court documents for Jon Vennable maybe about 5 years ago its states child pornography. I wasn't talking about the Criminal Justice Acts, I mean on the charges they definitely refer to it as child pornography, it shocked me as it certainly doesn't feel like the correct terminology.

Yes I know that re consent. Porn doesn't describe a consensual act, it is just a description of what it is which is explicit sexual activity.

We used to be good friends with old neighbours of ours as children (all around the same age growing up) later found out that the dad who was a funeral director was stealing from the deceased and abusing the bodies. Still creeps me out to this day. Feel so sorry for his wife and children.

A priest that was a big figure in the town I grew up in and had been a senior figure and teacher at the school I went to was found to have been sexually abusing two boys and went to prison. I honestly found him to have this really creepy presence that just felt off. What is crazy is he was an extremely well liked within this community to the point many people just wouldn’t believe he had done it. Vile

Criminals are often stupid. That's why she didn't change her name.
I also think you are conflating being superficially nice with being kind. Lots of psychopaths, for example, are superficially nice and quite charming. Genuinely kind, otoh, they are not.

My friend's dad.

He abused my friend (sexually).

I used to go to their house for sleepovers, around that time, but only found out 20 years later.

I used to work part time in a big national stationers...always thought the manager was a bit creepy...patted the young girls etc....i found some partially open boxes once in the store room...all hard core porn....few weeks later he never came in to work....turns out he was using staff canteen in evenings for hard core porn shows and strippers and also convicted of molesting girls...

It's very sad and scary to read this thread, so many (mostly) men who you wouldn't and couldn't know were this perverse and dangerous towards especially children.

A friend of my MIL went to prison for murder, although it was part of a gang war so a few others involved and not sure what his role was. He's very nice and funny and I don't feel scared around him, he's also very open about it. Served his time and just lives a normal life now.

I work with offenders daily in my job so I see every possible personality walk through the door.

I do home visits regularly and you'd all be surprised to really know who your neighbours are!!!

Had a holiday romance type very short fling with a guy. He was nice enough, a bit uptight but no red flags.

Googled him out of curiosity 25 years or so later and to my absolute horror I found news reports of him recently going to prison for 3,years for sexual assault on a 16 year old girl.

Never told anyone in real life as it horrifies me

Yes- don't want to go into identifying detail, but at least two: one quite similar to the case described by the OP; and someone with whom I went to school as a child, who was convicted of a murder as an adult. In neither case was it glaringly obvious that they would do such things.

That's more corporate negligence though surely?

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/section/62

perhaps check out subsection 2(a) and subsection 3 for those intent on arguing that the word pornographic doesn’t appear in any law. It clearly does. Pornographic does not imply consent on the part of the victim.

Local popular sports coach. Done for grooming teens. Recently.

Porn

But lots of people have already pointed this out. What would be the point of other posters repeating it, except tedious virtue signalling?

Yes, multiple times now which is crazy. One had molested a child… another was a very wealthy person who turned out to be a sex offender but got released on parole (yikes).

absolutely nuts

My late OH worked with Peter Sutcliffe as a student, he was staggered when he was revealed as the Yorkshire Ripper, this would have been only a couple of years before his first murder, although one never knows the true time line.

When I was a child of twelve I had a friend who murdered and attempted to rape a four year old.
Friend was also twelve.
The rape didn't take place as sexual development of the murderer was not advanced enough.
The little child was found dying. Abandoned and naked in an isolated spot.

That implies that porn is always consensual, when in fact it most certainly is not.
I'm not going to sanitize the word porn by presuming it inherently refers to consensual acts. So I will call it child rape porn.

Maxine Carr didn’t have anything to do with the deaths of the girls. It was solely Ian Huntley. She was away at the time of the killings, in a controlling relationship with him, and her crime was to stupidly lie when he asked her to. She didn’t know he was guilty. It seems very unfair to tar her with the same brush as a child murderer.

She gave him false a alibi which is why she was jailed. Everyone can claim 'controlling' after the event and standing in the dock.

Possession of child sexual abuse materials.

I lived in a house share. The landlady lived at the house. A room became available and a couple came to look round for their adult son. They said he couldn't come as he had an appointment or something. The father mentioned that he was the Head of a local private school. The landlady didn't accept the guy to live there.
A bit later the couple were killed by the son.

My uncle. Found out last year he was abusing my 3yo cousin 😡. I've known him since I was a small child but never seen him often- my mum always kept me from being alone w him as he's got a violent streak and dodgy, probs criminal connections, but we had no idea he was this horrible, no creepy vibes at all. My mum's had other bad experiences in life so has always been v protective. It used to annoy me, but now I'm so glad she did. I try not to think about it, it's vile to think how many people who seem ok could be hurting children behind closed doors. My mother can't trust anyone now: she just says, 'I couldn't trust my brother, so who can I trust?'

Also, an ophthalmologist I saw for laser eye surgery a few years ago ended up shooting his (commercial) landlord. Absolutely bonkers narcissistic man who owned luxury cars and expensive firearms, but thought he was above paying his rent. Mind boggling! Thank god he is in prison now.