Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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I lived with a girl who's boyfriend was clearly an alcoholic (used to vom all the time, steal our booze, never held down a job etc). When he finally came out to her about being an alcoholic, he also divulged to her that he'd killed his sister when he was a child.

I left that house and was about to move in with someone I worked with. She was a married woman but it was a big mystery about who and where her husband was. I went to visit her flat and she told me her husband was in prison but soon to be released. Googled him (unusual name) and he'd strangled his ex to death with a phone cable.

I sofa surfed for a while after that 😂

I’m another one who’s met a man who seemed normal (albeit a bit shy/not good at small talk) who turned out to be a child abuser.

Yes worked with somebody who was later found to be involved with their partner in a massive fraud case, £££m defrauded

I just realised that when I shared my experience that it's not relevant to this thread because what the o.p. was asking was whether we met someone and then later found out that they've done something in the past i.e before we met them whereas my colleague did the thing after I met him so sorry I should not have posted it as it was off topic.

I also remembered that he did not matter her to death he strangled her, and it was actually about a couple of years or so after I left. He had married her the colleague he was dating when I knew him.

Crikey! They seemed perversely enough, rather dull.

Yes. We were as shocked as she was. But it’s absolutely true and we found all the relevant articles etc by googling. It’s not hidden. I guess they feel he’s served his time…!

When I was 18 a group of us used to hang out. All the blokes had motorbikes and we used to go out pillion with them. A couple of years later one of them disappeared and we found out he'd killed his girlfriend's baby. It was horrible to think I'd held on to him to feel safe with no idea he had that in him.

Porn is just defined as sexually explicit material, consensual isn't part of it.

revenge porn isn't consensual, neither is a lot of commercial porn because you can't tell if people have been used in sex trafficking etc

My friend was in prison with Maxine and apparently she was a complete diva and was acting like a celebrity. I mean I guess she wasn't wrong but bloody hell 😳

Ah yes, of course. Thanks.

Went through the same as op, had worked closely with them before it happened and it imploded our team. I think all but one left the company within 18months.

Amazed at this as Unis and college very keen on DBS checks and safeguarding young people. I work for one and often help with paperwork checks for legal tests of employability when people are interviewed for dept.

How did he got past HR?

I knew someone who was convicted of murdering their child. Never thought she would do that.

Someone Dh grew up with, was suddenly banned from being involved with the activity they ran. Dh kept coming up with wild theories and shut me down when I said it was to do with the dark web or indecent images. He was shocked when he pleaded guilty to indecent images of schoolgirls.

True. There is no such thing as Child Porn. It is the sexual abuse of children which has been filmed.

DD’s grandfather in law worked for a company in Yorkshire at the time of the Yorkshire Ripper.
A woman in the office was very nervous about going home in the dark and gfil said don’t worry Peter will get you home safely in the van, now you see her to the door Peter.
Yes.
It was Peter Sutcliffe.

The poster means it’s not child pornography. That phrase suggests it’s acceptable and doesn’t have victims. It should be called images of child sexual abuse.

TW.....

.. my SIL hid suicide notes confessing an horrific crime to protect the family. name!

A young man shot a policeman in my town and badly injured him. Years later I read in the local paper that he had been released from prison a while ago and was back living in our town. I remember going right off and saying he shouldn't be allowed back here etc. A while later I discovered he was the lovely man living three doors down with his wife, the whole neighbour liked him. It taught me not to be so quick to judge people. Everyone deserves a second chance.

I knew someone from our online gaming club, turns out he was a paedophile, over 1000 images of child abuse, got a suspended sentence because he was a volunteer for an animal charity and that was what got him out of a prison sentence from what I heard.

Then there's my daughters ex, he was always a wrong un, theft, assault etc, turns out he was also a rapist, abuser and paedophile, with almost 1k child sex abuse images including of babies under 1 year old, which one of his children was at that time! He fathered another child in between court appearances, but thankfully got a sentence and is on the register for 10 years and is currently in prison!
There are nonces everywhere, makes me sick!

Just because you don't return a perfectly clean DBS, it's not a bar to working with the public. It depends on risk, the specifics of your crime, and whether or not the people you are going to be working with have vulnerabilities.

If there's no sexual element to his crime, no previous violent behaviour, and none since, I don't see why he'd be considered an elevated risk to people who are not in any way vulnerable and unlikely to be left in a situation with him that makes them vulnerable.

A man with a historic conviction from decades ago is no more a risk to 18+ students than he would be to the general public if he was working in a supermarket.

We lived at the end of a long country road, and sometimes we would see someone I knew walking, he lived a bit further along than us. I'd stop and give him a lift. Years later I opened the village youth club and he used to drop his two daughters off. He was divorced but saw them occasionally.

A few years later, 'Dark Justice' caught him in Newcastle. He thought he'd been communicating with a 13 year old girl and had travelled in to meet her. He had a computer full of child porn, the very very worst. It really shocked me, my husband worked away and I'd picked him up a few times with my young daughter. Sick bastard.

I’m a criminal defence barrister and represent people accused of all manner of crimes so everything from shop lifting, drugs, burglaries to serious sexual assaults and murder. I’ve been doing this job over 20 years and only ever met one person I couldn’t understand or relate to at all. He has murdered his wife in a very brutal and humiliating way. Everyone else (except the paedophiles) seemed pretty normal to me and there were clear moments that had led to them committing their crimes for example they’d been abused as a child, or had a drug addiction, or had mental illness etc. it has left me thinking that in the wrong circumstances everyone is capable of doing something horrific. Most offenders are just ordinary people.

Mine is very tame compared to these. Bloke at work that we were all friends with in a group with and very sociable, lots of nights out together.
one day at work the police turn up and take him away, turns out he was involved in financial fraud in our company. I remember the shock of seeing him walking out flanked by policemen. He went to prison, I honestly would never have suspected him at all.

Went on a group excursion and the leader took the group to the pub so we all drank together...a few weeks later he was convicted of making child abuse images. I've never stepped back in that pub as it gives me the ick now.

It's actually horrifying reading all these comments and seeing how many are about child abuse

@Mrsttcno1
it is not pornography, it is child sexual abuse