Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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Why did they murder her? Newspaper reports indicate that?

Which she didn't know he'd carried out as she was away at the time

My Dad met Jimmy Saville while working at the BBC. He said he was a right creep years before anything came out about him. My Dad was only there as a summer job while at uni, far too junior to have seen anything actually incriminating.

She lived with Huntley but she was away from home when he murdered the two girls. He asked her to lie for him on her return. She was found not guilty on the charge of assisting an offender so the jury obviously believed her when she said that at the time she provided the alibi she didn’t know he had murdered them, and that she was afraid of him because he was violent and controlling. She was convicted on the charge of perverting the course of justice, because it was established she had nothing to do with the murders themselves.

I used to walk to school with a lad who was in my year group, he was shy but friendly and fun once you’d got to know him, he was very intelligent too.

About 15 years ago it was in the local paper that he’d been jailed for possessing images of sexual abuse of very young children.

One of my teachers turned out to be a paedophile and was jailed for images found on his laptop and abusing 2 boys in my school year. The Police came into school to arrest him.

One of my wedding guests +1 was a scout leader and jailed for historic abuse crimes. It was all over the national press at the time.

Jesus!! 😧

Re Maxine: her contract as a TA was not renewed because she was thought to be ‘too friendly’ with some of the pupils. I believe ( without evidence) that she groomed those girls, and that it was her they thought they were going to see when they snuck off to her and Huntley’s house. I’m not saying that she knew what he intended for them.

Re:Saville , a cameraman on TOTP got me and a friend tickets to be on the show. He told us to ‘keep well clear of Saville, he has wandering hands’ ; lots of people ‘knew’ but the BBC valued him for some reason. 🥴🤐

My mother taught a very young boy who smothered his younger brother with a pillow. He said the baby crying annoyed him.

I feel sort of interested in Huntley and Carr. The way they both had their DBS in place but were so evil. I'm sorry but she was all kinds of wrong.

Then I remember what they did, the families and I feel ashamed of myself for being "interested"

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All of the posts on here are awful especially the SA, harrowing!!!!

But this "young boy who smothered his younger brother with a pillow. He said the baby crying annoyed him" is one of the saddest. You can probably see how a young kid could do this. Not intending to kill but trying to stop the noise. 😢

Exactly
She lied thats all.
Of course it was wrong and may have meant Huntley wasn't arrested as quickly as he could have been but she wasn't there and couldn't have stopped him if she had wanted to.
Perhaps she was afraid of Huntley or perhaps she knew what he was like and deliberately covered for him but she is in no way responsible for the deaths of those 2 poor girls. Its pure misogyny, woman are responsible for mens actions

Yep my ex husband. Together for 20 years and he was arrested back earlier this year for possessing and distribution of indecent images of children. Not our kids but still ended my world.

Can't remember the username but someone being early thirties, unmarried and single, how is that relevant to this discussion? Are you saying it's a red flag to be in that position at this age? As that's just absurd.

Loads of people have. The point about calling it pornography is that it identifies the sexual element. Not all child abuse is sexual abuse. So if you want to make the point you suggest, it should be described as child sexual abuse, not child abuse.

I agree with you as child abuse just doesn’t cover what it actually is.

I worked in a very fancy hotel in Cornwall which was aimed at the wealthy family market. The PA to the Directors disappeared one day and nothing was said, it was like he never existed. Eventually word got around that he had been arrested for possession of an extensive amount of child pornography and indecent images.

I don't know, I mean I completely trust that everyone in my close family at least is ok and decent, not harbouring murderous impulses or anything like that

I will always believe that JS knew stuff about very powerful people, and thats how he got away with it and why the floodgates opened when he died and was no longer a danger to them

I wonder if a lot of these crimes were done when the person was under the influence of drunk and drugs and would never have committed the crime if sober or not as high as a kite . Maybe that's why it's so shocking when it comes out what the person has done .

Yes - once worked with a guy. We were part of a small team that spent every Wednesday morning together for a year. Was even invited round his with the team one weekend for a BBQ. Turns out he'd killed his wife and buried her under the patio in his previous house. He'd moved to the country we were working in and told us his wife had left him and he'd moved for a fresh start.

He ended up in prison!

I was a young teenager in the 70s living in Greater London. We would often get free tickets for the audience on TOTP. It was common knowledge amongst all my friends to keep away from Savile for that very reason. It made me mad that the bosses at the BBC ‘were so shocked’ about the revelations. It seems like they somehow were the only people that were unaware!

Whilst working as a TA, we had a regular male supply teacher who was excessively tough and overly strict on the class I worked in. For example, there was a child who struggled badly with reading, which this man knew about as I gave him background on the abilities of the class, but he made him stand up and read out loud and proceeded to humiliate him. I reported his repeated bullying to the class teacher and Head and he was dropped from their call list.

Several months later he was arrested and convicted of possession of child abuse images, several of which were of the worst category. It still chills me that he clearly enjoyed and got pleasure from dominating and intimidating youngsters.

I work in criminal defence and the amount of normal-looking guys in normal jobs with normal families who are involved in child sex offences is truly shocking. It's very rare for me to come across one who looks like he could have a neon sign above his head announcing the fact.

No, paedophiles are often scarily organised and cunning, sometimes taking a long time to groom and set up their abuse.

Maybe those men who view child abuse online, but that is a worrying element in itself, if so many men would view and support online child abuse when they are disinhibited under the effects of drink and drugs.
What lies beneath sort of thing.

Many years ago Jimmy Saville decided that he would visit the l/a where I worked. He was going to grace us with his presence. I was asked by an official to go to meet him and refused. Asked why I said 'because he's a creep'. She looked shocked. I often wonder what she thought when his disgusting activities became public knowledge.

There are over 2 million violent crimes each year in the uk and one in every three men has a criminal record. I find these statistics quite shocking.

Yes, a guy who I worked with. He was in another country but part of my business group and I'd see him at conferences and got on well as well as normal work.
When he suddenly disappeared from work it was given out he was off sick, came back after 6 months, then disappeared again 2 years later. This time it all then came out was that the first time it was because he'd been accused of raping one of his daughters friends but it didn't go to court, second time he did the same again and this time the very brave child was able to testify and he went to jail.
You honestly would never have known there was anything off, even those who had closely worked with him for years had no suspicions.