Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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Years ago I used to go to a single parents group in york (my hometown)

One day,a woman and her 3 kids walked in

I'm not joking when I say these kids where feral and filthy-she'd just ignore them while moaning about her life,how she didn't get enough in benefits,what 'little bastards' the kids where and how she hated them

I sort of became loose mates with her as it was clear she needed some support

I once went to her house and it was disgusting-dog poo ground into the carpet,filthy,stank of wee,everything was sticky and smokey-it was foul

I lost touch with them and didn't see them again until a pop up appeared on fb

Turns out,ss had got involved and taken the kids away,the father had been abusing the dd and got 7 years for her and another little girl

Mum moved away and joined a church/cult,while forgetting about the kids

The eldest one had made contact with her and they'd started meeting up

Not long after,my dd was walking home,when she saw a young lad of her age,covered in blood and screaming while walking towards her

She legged it home and we rang the police

Turns out it was the eldest lad,he'd killed his mums new boyfriend and had walked away laughing before walking towards dd and back to the local taxi office to admit what he'd done

He was a nice lad,just completely feral and had the shittest upbringing

I'll never forget him-he had such potential,if only he'd been born to someone else,he could be living his best life rather than rotting away for the rest of his life

When I was in senior school my teacher was taken out our our class one day in the middle of a lesson, turns out he was arrested for abusing 8 yo boys many years before in an out of school activity that he ran. He was sent to prison but only for about 3 years.

He was a bit weird but no more than many other people.

i’m probably adding fuel to fire, but if I hear the term ‘child porn’ I don’t think it’s consensual at all. To be, it’s a phrase depicting sexual images of children. By default, it’s non-consensual as they’re children.

I guess, from all the comments here, it’s one of those phrases whose meaning has changed/is non pc/ etc, but not everyone got the memo, and perhaps start a new thread explaining the change, rather derailing this one and repeating it.

@MarmaladeJars no one ignored it. It had been pointed out already by other people so what's the need for every single poster to also point it out.

I didn't address it because other people already had.

In the village I grew up in (80s-90s) a new greengrocer set up and everyone was raving about how polite and friendly they were. Turns out they were head of a gang that had committed a spate of armed robberies against old people. They would offer to deliver their groceries, scope out the place then would return with their gang.

@MarmaladeJars also the pile on I'm referring you to is the one you was hoping to start.

Who excused it ? Who apologised for it ? The only people objecting weren’t objecting to pointing out the terminology wasn’t acceptable, they were those who could see the continual dragging up of posts from hours ago and repeating things that had already been said over and over was derailing the thread and causing it to go around in circles. And it still is. Pages and pages after the original discussions.

Bloke who did odd jobs around the village stalked and murdered his next door neighbour. The neighbour on the other side was the village policeman, who had been very concerned about the murderer since he caught him stealing his daughter’s underwear from the washing line. But ‘social services were aware’ so nothing could be done about him until he beat a woman to death while she was out walking her dog.

Our local landlord held his wife hostage upstairs in the pub, fired his shotgun out of the window at the police ( luckily bad shot. ) The pub changed hands multiple times after that, though it is now a smart gastropub.

Not directly, but the wife of one of the men in our little lane was a recluse. Their son in law had been having an affair , and the OW had paid someone to murder the wife, their daughter; her mother never recovered, the husband used to say that they murdered two people.

Where we live now seems to be less dramatic….

I worked with a man who downloaded child abuse photos and handed himself in to the police. He then killed himself. He was a really nice man who you just wouldn’t have expected.

Yes, a few...
Boyfriend when I was 17. He was sweet, kind and considerate then. A few years later my mum told me he'd been jailed for raping a young woman he'd randomly encountered in a rural area. It was on the local news (I'd moved away).

Family friend. Eccentric, but always very nice and friendly. Imprisoned for trying to poison his wife. And, astonishingly like an example above, was employed by a uni as a medical ethics tutor when he was released!

A platonic friend of MILs I found creepy. She invited him to spend Christmas at our house () and BIL later told me that creepy friend was saying dodgy things about children when when he and BIL were up late drinking. Wish BIL had told me at the time, so I could have kicked him out! Anyway, he was later imprisoned for historic child abuse from when he was a scout leader decades earlier. Repulsive creature.

I wrote a letter to him when I was 14 - I wanted to sing with Duran Duran. My mum point blank refused to let me post the letter, her exact words were "No, I don't trust him, there's something not right about him."

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Why they don't check first is a mystery.

I was replying to a post. 100s of people hadn't replied to that post.

It's so strange how you people are getting annoyed by this. Very concerning.

Teenagers sexting one another is child porn by definition. Is it criminal? Yes. Because "consent" cannot be legal when underage. But is it rape? It is not.
Also police have different categories for illegal images.

I had a few walks, bike rides and pints with a murderer back when I was in my twenties.
He was a near neighbour, friends of other folk. Had moved to the area on release. Utterly hated what he had done when he was a week past his 18th birthday, hated the thought of the impact it had on the victims family, and frankly was a bit of a mess mentally because of that.
I liked the guy - he was very genuine, found solace in nature, worked hard in a local business, and was trying to put the past behind and be a good member of our community.
I left the area and we were not 'friends', more acquaintances who met in a larger group to walk or cycle, occasionally a pint or coffee.

I went to two secondary schools. At one, there was a boy who joined late who seemed a bit rough around the edges but basically okay, but years later I read in the paper that he'd committed an armed robbery and the shopkeeper was killed. At my other secondary school there was a boy who left not long after I joined; he seemed a character - everyone knew him - but he wasn't bad. I don't know the specifics, but a few years later we learned that he had brutally assaulted a man who later died.

Her education must have been appallingly, if she didn't know it's wrong to murder children! You wonder how she managed to tie her shoelaces in the morning.

Yes through my job. Nothing much surprises me anymore sadly. Nowhere is safe. I have uni students I have on my caseload who are sex offenders, they are still able to study.

I've had lunch with someone who stole $430million

@redtrain123

but not everyone got the memo, and perhaps start a new thread explaining the change, rather derailing this one and repeating it.

• disturbing!!!

Show me anyone on this thread who has shown that they aren’t motivated to safeguarding children ? We’re talking about terminology which has been in the public consciousness for a very long time, so of course people are going to use it. Just because they do doesn’t mean they support it. It’s been pointed out ad nauseam that it’s child abuse, and your own and others’virtue signalling is still derailing the thread.

I worked in a high-end Bank HO with someone - lovely lad, nice manners - who was found to be stealing thousands from clients' accounts. He went to prison.

My dad told me about a 'friend/colleague' of his who committed sexual abuse (I was 11, I had no idea what that was) with a friend of mine from school (his dd), and her siblings....

I was followed home from the swimming pool at age about 13 - went to the local police station and was given a lift home. Dparents were horrified that the neighbours saw me getting out of a Police car! 3 or 4 weeks later, a local ad was arrested for picking up/harassing young girls and abusing them.

It really is - make me feel sick.

I met a guy in work once who gave me the creeps. He turned out to be a nonce - suspended sentence

@NotSoHotMess24 She didn't murder children. She gave her controlling violent boyfriend an alibi. Not to excuse her but there is a difference