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Would you agree that my father is mean?

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Armyofprawns · 23/09/2024 11:21

You would think that I would perhaps be able to work this out myself but family life is complicated especially the deeper you ar in with situations and I honestly don't know if my father is being mean/mean spirited or not. My friend thinks he is.

Before I start, I will say this is not about me wanting any money off my parents (I know this is heavily frowned upon on MN!). Since leaving home 26 years ago I have never asked for a penny from my parents nor have I been given any.

Up until 6 or so years ago my parents were living a pretty good life. They have never had any money worries and imo have lived a comfortable and fairly stress free, easy life. My parents are now in their early 80's and my dad has enjoyed good health and apart from needing a pacemaker and suffering from osteoporosis, so too had my mum. Dad would spend his week on the golf course or touring around in his classic motorbike, mum did some charity work in a local shop and at the weekends they were always out with friends. I live around the corner and would visit them a couple of times a week, often going out with my mum and my dc when they were young (my dc are their only gc).

However, in 2018 everything changed. My mum was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She then developed glaucoma and cataracts and this year she has received a breast cancer diagnosis.

Since the dementia diagnosis and seeing dad struggling with mum's health needs (he is not a natural born carer) I started to help out more and more and before you know it I am going round 4-5 times a week, helping with all of their life admin, financial stuff, organising all of mum's medications and many hospital appointments (which I always attend with them) and health administration, helping with changing beds, doing their washing, taking mum to her day centre twice a week and making mum a packed lunch for both of those days too (all from my own pocket).

I don't earn a lot as I only work part time due to health issues. Money is often tight and my dad is fully aware of this.

I do all of these things to help because I know my dad struggles with mum's diagnosis and he feels the disease has also taken his life away, I know he is suffering also and it breaks me to see my parents like this. I do these things to repay my mum back for being such a lovely mum.

But I suppose the bugbear is that my parents have a lot of money (well in my opinion anyhow). Hundreds of thousands invested (from inheritance from my grandparents), £50k sits in a current account, £15k in another and they live in a very large house worth over £600k (which is now too big for them and beoming a noose around my father's neck as it is 100 years old). Dad is very hesitant to spend any of their money as I know he is worried there won't be enough to over mum's care home needs when she has to go into care, I understand his worries. They currently have a carer in for an hour Mon-Fri to help mum shower (it took me two years to persuade dad to agree to this). A hairdresser comes once a week to wash mum's hair and she attends the two afternoon sessions at the day centre per week and that's enough, dad will not pay out for anything else. My sister does their cleaning once a week/fortnight or whenever she can do it.

For our 'wages' as my dad calls it ,he gives my sister and I £40 per month each. When I told my friend this she was taken aback, she thinks this is very mean. The money helps me alot but I suppose with the amount of phone calls I make for them, the driving my mum to her day centre and paying for her packed lunch it probably covers that and leaves me with not much more!

He isn't very generous, I must admit but is this mean?

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Guavafish1 · 24/09/2024 16:56

I would do things for the love of my parents and won’t ask for money.

ichangedthenameforthis · 24/09/2024 17:30

If I were you I would sit down with your father and say you can't continue. Explain that the cost of your time, emotional energy etc is just too much and you feel your mum and him need more support than you can give.

Children should not feel like they have to help their parents, especially when they have the means to employ people to do the job for them. They could spend £1500 a month to improve their life and it would avoid them spending £3k a week each if they ever both need full time care.

That's how I'd sell it to him and I say that as someone who after covid sold up and bought a house with my widowed parent so they could live with us so I don't say it lightly.

Armyofprawns · 26/09/2024 12:34

PenelopePitStrop · 24/09/2024 10:14

You and your sister could show him a list of your exact costs, including petrol , washing and cleaning material etc , in caring for him and your Mum.

Tell him that this care is actually keeping her at home longer and therefore saving money in the long run.

I am sorry about your Mum’s Alzheimer’s, it is so cruel on everyone and you are putting in so much care. Please do not overstretch yourself. I mean this, it is important. You must be able to sustain your own job, family life, marriage, health and mental health. Caring and juggling and the emotional aspect of it all all but broke my sibling.

Thank you. When people have little to no experience of dementia, I don't think they fully understand what this disease does to loved ones.
There is caring/helping elderly parents and then there is dementia. I have been doing this for 6 years now, it is relentless and certainly takes its toll.

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Armyofprawns · 26/09/2024 12:42

ichangedthenameforthis · 24/09/2024 17:30

If I were you I would sit down with your father and say you can't continue. Explain that the cost of your time, emotional energy etc is just too much and you feel your mum and him need more support than you can give.

Children should not feel like they have to help their parents, especially when they have the means to employ people to do the job for them. They could spend £1500 a month to improve their life and it would avoid them spending £3k a week each if they ever both need full time care.

That's how I'd sell it to him and I say that as someone who after covid sold up and bought a house with my widowed parent so they could live with us so I don't say it lightly.

My dsis and I go through all of this with him but he doesn't want to know half the time. I have presented him with details of local dementia cafes so he can connect with others, I found a gardener to help with his garden, a sit in service so he can have more time to himself etc but he just turns his nose up because these things all cost money and he really doesn't want to spend any of his investments. It took me two years to persuade him to get a carer in to help mum and for the two afternoons at the day centre and he moans about the cost of those even though it's all paid via mum's attendance allowance, they don't have to use their own money for these things at all.

He's happy today though as he had his annual review with his finance guy yesterday and he's made money not lost any, so that's all good 🙄

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DreamHolidays · 26/09/2024 12:49

The reason he can stay stuck in his position ‘money before anything else’ is because you and your dsister are stepping in and taking over the care.

Welshmonster · 26/09/2024 16:45

You need to sit down with a financial advisor and possibly lawyer and get things sorted as if your dad dies first then you have no POA to help your mum and it will be an awful mess. You and your sister may need POA to make decisions for your mum when your dad can no longer do so.

if the caring for them is draining your family finances then you need to stop. I know that sounds harsh but what happens if your DH gets sick and can’t work. Which if he is working over and above to keep afloat could happen. My friends husband got cancer and died within 3 months of diagnosis. It was a mess as she has health issues.

conversations will be hard but don’t be bullied back down. Yes it is important to care for family but just because they birthed you doesn’t mean they own you for life.

your dad can pay for a cleaner. There’s no point saving money for care home as soon as the money runs out which it will very quickly then the care home will Chuck you out into local authority one somewhere.

PurplGirl · 26/09/2024 18:21

The fact he acknowledges he should be paying you and your sister something suggests to me he’s tight or doesn’t understand the cost of things. Just talk to him about it. “Hey Dad, with the cost of everything going up, I’m really noticing how much the extras I do for you and Mum (petrol, food, phone bill etc.) are adding up. And on my part time wage, I can’t afford it. I’m also finding it a bit much some weeks. Remember I work part time due to my own ill health. Let’s discuss what things can be outsourced to carers, so that I’ve got less to juggle day to day.” Then if you still feel you’re left out of pocket, suggest the amount you need to cover your expenses.

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