Looks likely a vote on assisted dying is imminent

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‘A vote to introduce assisted dying across the UK could be imminent after Downing Street reiterated that it would not obstruct a private member’s bill on the issue and indicated it would support an MP in drafting it.’

I'm hoping it is passed. After watching my mum die 3.5 months after diagnosis last year who was lucky in some way it was fast compared to my inlaw who has been ill eleven years now and is declining in various different ways and been desperate to go the last two years. We wouldn't let an animal suffer every day in such pain.

I'm another who hopes it is successful.

Having known of too many people who have suffered in their final days/weeks/months. I think the worst was the ovarian cancer (I won't go into detail but it was quite upsetting), and also a friend dying of secondary bone cancer. Absolutely brutal.

Abortion was “sold” to the public as being necessary for the really tough cases, catastrophic disability, rape. We were told it would be rare. Now it’s commonplace. Over 250,000 a year in England & Wales.
Euthanasia / assisted suicide will be no different. The concept of the sanctity of human life is largely gone from both the medical sphere and the public consciousness.

The concept of the sanctity of human life is largely gone from both the medical sphere and the public consciousness.

It's not that simple though, is it ?
As without medical treatments, many people would die sooner. You seem happy for people to choose to accept something that will keep them breathing but not 'living' but not something that will release people from pain and lack of any dignity when they are ready to go.

Well said

I think people should absolutely be released from pain and afforded all the dignity to which they are entitled as human beings. I don’t agree that this is best achieved by killing them.

That's very naive. What about consent for example? Do you think we should euthanasise someone with dementia without the capacity to consent?

How about someone suicidal? Should we euthanasise those who wish to take their lives but are perfectly healthy? What about those who are elderly and feel like they are a burden?

What about those pressurised to be euthanised because their family want their property?

@ohfourfoxache

im sorry 💐🤗

I think there are so many complications. England is not filling me with confidence. I'm more now is the to be doing this.

In principle I agree but it’s like any law, once it’s been passed it’s a lot easier to tweak it. Just look at what’s happened in Canada. On here the other day when someone asked what people would change to save money someone suggested we need to legalise euthanasia as old people’s health was costing too much,and multiple posters agreed.

My terminal dad's statements before death 'you wouldn't treat an animal like this', 'please just shoot me'.

About time we gave people the right to decide, seeing someone have to suffer so much really made my mind up on assisted dying and I am all for it.

I'm am likely to be diagnosed with a life limiting illness.

I hope this is passed to support my family in doing the right thing, when I feel it's my time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/25/canada-assisted-dying-laws-in-spotlight-as-expansion-paused-again

The Canadian setup is such that there is some evidence of people being inappropriately signposted towards euthanasia if the aren't getting the support they need to manage non-fatal chronic conditions/disabilities etc or if they have been made to feel that their continued life is a burden.

I hope we can agree that euthanasia should never be actively chosen as the easy or cheap option if staying alive could be bearable or even enjoyable with appropriate treatment and support. It should only be available when being alive is unbearable.

Good. Bring it on.

Good... its about time! After having to watch my husband slowly die in front of me and the children for 16 weeks was the most horrific thing a person can be expected to do, and i know in those last few weeks, he wished it over!

they put animals out of their misery without a second glance.. so why not humans!

Thank goodness. I have maybe a year left as cancer treatment hasn't worked. That 12 months won't go in quickly enough given the pain I'm currently in.

The Canadian setup is such that there is some evidence of people being inappropriately signposted towards euthanasia if the aren't getting the support they need to manage non-fatal chronic conditions/disabilities etc or if they have been made to feel that their continued life is a burden.

Call me a cynic, but my first thought when I saw labour pushing this was it would 1) save money for the NHS, and 2) save money on state pensions.

I don't want to see anyone suffer when animals are treated with more care and dignity. My grandmother had MS for over 30 years and had no life at all. My other grandmother had dementia. I don't disagree with assisted dying but I question the true political motives.

Canada have made a mess of introducing Assisted Dying, but this is a problem the making of which rests with Canadian legislators.

Assisted Dying is also in practice in Oregon, Washington, California, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, Switzerland, New Zealand, Australia, and Colombia

Just because one country has made a mess of things doesn't mean the idea itself is inherently flawed.

I remain 100% in favour of the introduction of AD in the UK.

Labour have been desperate to kill off the elderly. The heating allowance being stopped isn't quick enough so assisted dying should do it.

You can guarantee the uk will make a pigs ear out of it too

We have it in Nz
Who the has a right to tell anyone they can not stop living with any terminal illness and carry on.
It's hardly a choice is it to want to live when your better off not being alive.
Why are poms so small minded about so much?!

Why are you so xenophobic?

About bloody time

I can only presume you haven’t had to watch a loved one suffer a long lingering painful death with no quality of life and dignity

I have supported, ethically, this for many many years however I have now changed my mind.

I don't trust the Government any more. I don't trust the NHS any more. There are far too many people with other agendas now (look at the trans cult for example). Look at what's happening in Canada. Homeless people being encouraged to take this option. Disabled people being encouraged.

Look how caring the Government is with pensioners just now. Their policies are going to kill the poor, elderly.

It's being "rushed through" for a reason.