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just got back from japan. omg wow.

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TheBlueHoney · 08/09/2024 23:26

What a country! I saw much right there compared to Britain. 100x better infrastructure, friendlier people, safer street, luxury amazing looking roads, most well behaved children I've ever seen, modesty, people dress well, public transport etiquette, quality of food and healthy population, fantastic healthcare, longest life expectancy, lowest infant mortality, prices/affordability about same as London but get way more for your money everything better quality and no tipping culture, public bathrooms accessible everywhere and so clean and modern with built in tech. I could go on and on.

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Mencho · 11/09/2024 09:10

KittyBeebee · 11/09/2024 08:53

My DS has lived in Japan for 8 years, he's rented several apartments in that time, with absolutely no trouble

Some people have no trouble at all, particularly if they rent through agents that often deal with foreigners. Social housing is also open to foreigners. On the other hand, many private landlords state outright that they will not let out their property to non-Japanese. It’s a common complaint amongst the immigrant and ex-pat communities. When I went to a letting agent, a few years ago with my Japanese husband to rent a place together the agent called a number of landlords in front of me and asked if they would consider a foreign resident who speaks fluent Japanese and many said no. It’s less problematic with permanent residency. The landlords are worried about people leaving the country without paying rent, not understanding the rubbish separation and recycling rules, loud parties, etc.

“no pets, no foreigners” is a common phrase written on property rental sites.

I'm glad your son didn’t have this problem!

GorgeousTulips · 11/09/2024 09:14

As an aside, we were travelling on a shuttle from Gatwick recently and my husband who had hurt his knee was offered a seat by an older Japanese man . We were absolutely stunned and so appreciative. That would NEVER happen normally.

Owl55 · 11/09/2024 09:50

What a fascinating thread this has been 👍🏻

LaDamaDeElche · 11/09/2024 11:44

Japan has its problems like everywhere. What you see as a tourist often isn’t the reality for the people who live there. Read this article, for example.

www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2024/04/10/japan/sexual-violence-japan-nhk-survey/

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 12:30

soberholic · 11/09/2024 06:02

@ChishiyaBat

TV here is SO boring!! Literally none of these drama's we're exposed to in the west or anything. Basically anything remotely interesting resulted in them being sued for some reason, so TV became dead dull.

Above is a link of a British youtuber (a little famous amoung us) and he does a very accurate description of Japanese TV.

Also, when you're in Japan, things like English subtitles on Netflix are gone - only Japanese subtitles. I can understand simple stuff, but a police drama is beyond me

Haha, he's funny. What about not real tv shows though? Or is it all just real and the drama's are all just on streaming services?
I can understand a teeny bit and I love hearing spoken Japanese, but I really need eigo subtitles😂.

notacooldad · 11/09/2024 12:40

What a fascinating thread this has been 👍🏻
It's been a bonkers thread.

Can you imagine if someone went back to their country and said they had a nice time in the Lake District, been to some nice restaurants and done some amazing walks and loved doing Catbells and Blencathra and mentioned the things that she thought we did well and people piled on about prisoners in the uk are going to be let out of jail, our education system is falling, The Rochdale grooming scandal, The post office corruption, NHS waiting list, Knife crime, including children killing children, the Southport massacre, domestic violence and the light sentence ( if any)the offenders get,that British people eat junk food all the time and most of them are over weight and dress scruffy with holes and slashes in their jeans , alll uk people are lazy and want benefits. The last goes on and on.
Out of that list there is some truths and some misconceptions

that people may have about us across the wohld.
It's the same with Japan.
Most countries in the world have some sort of corruption, or undesirable aspects to it if you scratch below the surface.

From my point of view I liked visiting Japan. All the Japenese people I met informally ( ie, not a paid workers such as in hospitality and retail) were extremely pleasant, generous and went above and beyond to help me.
The landscape was gorgeous.
I loved the contrast between the centre of Tokyo and places that were nice and calm less than an hour away.
I think it is mad that people have posted on here with uninformed opinions 'I think I read somewhere that.......' was a pretty much start to a comment.

*Same. I travelled from Tokyo right out to Hokkaido but saw nothing but concrete and rice paddy fields. Very bleak Soviet style architecture.

Not every square inch is going to be amazing. It's not always sunflower fields going from Burnley to Bolton either, you know!

And if you're vegetarian and don't speak Japanese, you're basically fucked. Lovely people, so polite, but I nearly starved to death in the ten days I was there.

Why didn't you use the Happy Cow app or even Google maps asking for ' vegetarian restaurants near me' Apart from translate it was probably the most used app!!
In the main cities of Japan there are plenty of international restaurants for people who don't fancy Japanese food.

People on this thread have metioned suicide rates being high in Japan. While sadly there are suicides, Japan isnt in the top15 world wide for suicide per 100,000 of population. Many of the countries that have a higher suicide rate are European.

In summary, it's great to be a tourist. I wouldn't want to live there but that said, I'm not always happy with the UK.'s way of doing things either.
However both countries have some amazing qualities.

TanteRose · 11/09/2024 13:20

THANK YOU @notacooldad

i was thinking of how to put it, but you nailed it!
apart from the “wouldn’t want to live here”!
I love living here, it’s a really great place to live Smile

TanteRose · 11/09/2024 13:24

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 12:30

Haha, he's funny. What about not real tv shows though? Or is it all just real and the drama's are all just on streaming services?
I can understand a teeny bit and I love hearing spoken Japanese, but I really need eigo subtitles😂.

@ChishiyaBat they have drama series on regular TV - police dramas, hospital dramas, love stories, historical ones… there is a morning drama series etc
I used to practice my Japanese by watching TV drama shows Smile

notacooldad · 11/09/2024 13:25

@TanteRose
*i was thinking of how to put it, but you nailed it!
apart from the “wouldn’t want to live here”!
I love living here, it’s a really great place to live

I said that because Im at that sandwich filling age. I've got elderly parents and young adults and I'm the bit in the middle! My life is settled but I'm going back to japan next year!

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 13:29

TanteRose · 11/09/2024 13:24

@ChishiyaBat they have drama series on regular TV - police dramas, hospital dramas, love stories, historical ones… there is a morning drama series etc
I used to practice my Japanese by watching TV drama shows Smile

So it's not all bad then😁. I'm currently watching 2 hospital ones on netflix. It's a good way to get used to hearing the language, even my 2 year old granddaugher can say 大丈夫

TanteRose · 11/09/2024 13:31

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 13:29

So it's not all bad then😁. I'm currently watching 2 hospital ones on netflix. It's a good way to get used to hearing the language, even my 2 year old granddaugher can say 大丈夫

Brilliant! Or should I say すごい Grin

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 13:50

TanteRose · 11/09/2024 13:31

Brilliant! Or should I say すごい Grin

My daughter thinks it's hilarious, she doesn't speak much at all, so the fact that she comes out with Japanese is indeed すごい!

TanteRose · 11/09/2024 13:54

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 13:50

My daughter thinks it's hilarious, she doesn't speak much at all, so the fact that she comes out with Japanese is indeed すごい!

Love it!

CrowleyKitten · 11/09/2024 13:55

like any country, there are good and bad aspects. that said, it's a place I'd love to visit, as it seems like it's so incredibly culturally different, and it would be a real experience.
also, I love Japanese food.

Aintgointogoa · 11/09/2024 14:55

It has been a very interesting thread as PP said !
I read somewhere before I went for the first time that visiting Japan is like travelling to a different planet, without leaving Earth. It might have been Anthony Bourdain, who had very similar insights after the first time he went to Japan / Tokyo.
I was lucky to have Japanese friends in the city which certainly eased me in, but I was on my own a lot during the day, roaming around, I found the tube system surprisingly easy to use after the initial shock, def second getting the app that has the exits ! On one occasion tho' I did the thing I had been warned to be careful NOT to do - that is switch between metro system and get on a commuter train (which you usually have to walk up to access but can switch on the same level at some points) zooming out of the city at spectacular speed, with very few stops, to get everyone home throughout the huge urban area.....I had a sinking feeling when I realised I was looking at Tokyo bay receding in the distance and it was all overground. When I finally got off, and called my worried waiting friend he said "ah. You are very far" Understatement !
I absolutely was enchanted during the three times I was lucky enough to go. Went in early October each time, which is a beautiful season. Visited Kyoto twice, and Hokkaido - which is stunning (took the night train from Tokyo Ueno, a fantastic way to go. Not a Shinkansen, but a lovely train called Cassiopeia, which has been retired since. A perfectly spotless and comfortable sleeper cabin, shower stalls (also spotless), restaurant car etc....) plus some road/train trips closer to Tokyo including a huge fun fair with jaw dropping rides and a view of Fuji in the background !
Am not unaware of the issues raised here and more but we couldn't be more different culturally in every conceivable way. Our cultures did not evolve on parallel lines. One friend, who has lived in London and Sydney, is funny and smart, absolutely defends to the end their right to hunt and eat whales for example, The reason for the lines of mirrors at each end of tube stops is apparently to give 'jumpers' pause, from seeing themselves reflected back.
It is the most developed technological society imaginable, but still in little quiet shrines tucked around even the busiest thoroughfares people leave fresh food and flowers for the dedicated deities there (esp the fox) So many contrasts. So much to discover. So much to eat !
I would go back in a heart beat.

TanteRose · 12/09/2024 02:05

about Racism in Japan - please read this article (by Karen Hill Anton on Medium - archived)
https://archive.is/t9mTi

Mama81 · 12/09/2024 12:20

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 09/09/2024 00:15

There is so much that's great and to be admired about Japan, but the widespread open acceptance/condoning of sexualising underage girls is seriously nasty.

Also the work ethic seems well off. It's good to be proud of working hard, but there has to be a balance. Any country that has a single word for 'working yourself to death' (karoshi) makes me seriously wonder about how well they strike that balance in their culture.

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Id say young girls are openly sexualised in the west too... bikinis for toddlers springs to mind.

CrowleyKitten · 12/09/2024 20:50

Mama81 · 12/09/2024 12:20

Id say young girls are openly sexualised in the west too... bikinis for toddlers springs to mind.

I agree. bikinis on children far before puberty is so creepy.
I used to wear swimming trunks to swim until I was about 8, because, guess what! I didn't have breasts to cover!

asdfgasdfg · 12/09/2024 21:56

Visited twice for several months when DH worked for an American bank. That was back in the 90s when there was little foreign tourism. It's the only country I'd like to retire to.

soberholic · 20/09/2024 12:13

ChishiyaBat · 11/09/2024 12:30

Haha, he's funny. What about not real tv shows though? Or is it all just real and the drama's are all just on streaming services?
I can understand a teeny bit and I love hearing spoken Japanese, but I really need eigo subtitles😂.

Mainly streaming services, yes. The image of Japan and the reality are way off

soberholic · 20/09/2024 12:24

TanteRose · 12/09/2024 02:05

about Racism in Japan - please read this article (by Karen Hill Anton on Medium - archived)
https://archive.is/t9mTi

Thanks for this, the experience of black people is very different. Yeah the bloody cutting weeds thing, twice a year or a 1000 円 penalty. We didn't do it this year because my husband was at a meditation course on the other side of the country, and I was looking after a newborn baby completely alone. They've not come knocking for the money but the obligatory green tea they delivered after they'd finished had a proper snarky note about weeds around our home.

Mercurial123 · 20/09/2024 13:12

Crazyllah is a black woman living in Japan. It's interesting to see Japan from her life there

notacooldad · 23/09/2024 16:14

Crazyllah is a black woman living in Japan. It's interesting to see Japan from her life there
I've been following her for a while and like her posts.
Also on instagram I really like Matcha_Samurai.He's a Japanese in his late 20s who has a mad laugh. I think he lives in London but spends time with his family in Japan. His laugh gers me everytime!

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