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Keir Starmer "not naming my children"

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Misthios · 08/09/2024 09:35

Respect his stance not to allow pictures of his kids, fair enough, that is the decision he and his wife have made.

But the whole "i'm not publicly naming them" - you'd think as a former lawyer he'd know birth records are public record and anyone can find out in 30 seconds? So not the big secret he thinks it is?

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saraclara · 08/09/2024 11:03

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Don't do that. Using people with stomas to childishly insult a politician is pathetic.

CormorantStrikesBack · 08/09/2024 11:05

I used to feel sorry for the Blair kids, reports in the media about which school they were off to, being drunk in the gutter, being a nepo kid millionaire.

imagine you are Euan Blair, I bet when he introduces himself to people a lot will immediately ask if he’s Tony Blair kid. Even now, decades later. Whereas if his name hadn’t been in the press so much people wouldn’t put 2+2 together. Blair is a common surname.

i wouldn’t like to spend my life being known as X’s kid no matter who that person is.

Misthios · 08/09/2024 11:05

RichardsGear · 08/09/2024 11:02

I don't think it's all that easy? It's not like typing in the names of the parents on a page on gov.uk and up pops the names of their offspring?

Well no, but it's really not difficult.

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Boniwa · 08/09/2024 11:06

saraclara · 08/09/2024 11:03

Don't do that. Using people with stomas to childishly insult a politician is pathetic.

I have a stoma and that just made me laugh out loud 🤣

You don't talk for everyone.

That's his name now in my house

DrSavaage · 08/09/2024 11:06

Misthios · 08/09/2024 10:57

It's not "privileged knowledge" though, it's public record, not some secret squirrel website which you have to be invited to access, or need to pass an exam to use. This sort of information is as readily available as finding out where your nearest MOT station is, or where to book your driving test, or how to apply for a passport.

I don't have "deeper access" to anything.

I am not sure why you're so invested OP. Kier Starmer seems like a decent chap with a moral compass and a history of public service at senior level.

Great, I didn't vote Labour but I am pleased they won the GE.

As for his wife and kids, they are not public property. Not trotting the kids out for the press and public in their formative years is a very good thing imo. I hope the kids have a smooth ride in life and are happy, well adjusted and healthy, which is all I wish for anyone.

BunnyLake · 08/09/2024 11:06

I couldn’t care less what his children are called, I have never given it a single second of thought about any PM’s children. The last PM whose children’s names I was aware of was Mark and Carole Thatcher.

NorthernKitty · 08/09/2024 11:07

I’m sure I could find it out if I want to, but I don’t want to. I wasn’t interested in other PM’s children either, but if I was introduced to a Leo Blair I would immediately wonder if it was Tony’s son, likewise Wilf Johnson or Florence Cameron, Mark Thatcher etc.

So at least it gives his kids a fighting chance at future anonymity.

Kitkat1523 · 08/09/2024 11:08

OpalSquid · 08/09/2024 09:38

He does know, obviously, however he is relying on the inherent laziness of the general population. I certainly don’t care enough to go and look it up, do you?

This
i don’t care enough to Google it…..neither would most people I wouldn’t think

CurlewKate · 08/09/2024 11:08

@ErniesGhostlyGoldTops "This. I have things growing on my shower curtain that I have more interest in than Keith Stoma"

But you have enough interest to come on here and be offensive. Right then.

Demonhunter · 08/09/2024 11:09

Why does it matter? His kids aren't in charge of the country or his decision making. Unless his kids are having an impact on my life, I have no need to know who they are.

saraclara · 08/09/2024 11:09

Boniwa · 08/09/2024 11:06

I have a stoma and that just made me laugh out loud 🤣

You don't talk for everyone.

That's his name now in my house

So did my late husband, and I DO mind, as he would have done. I'm glad you don't, but you don't speak for everyone either.

In general it's perceived as tasteless to use disabilities and medical conditions as insults. And yes, name tweaking is childish humour anyway.

OrdsallChord · 08/09/2024 11:10

It's incredibly obvious why he's doing this. Trying to keep them off limits. Yeah, everyone in the press will know their names, and probably much more. But this will make it harder for them to use any of that information. And it's perfectly reasonable.

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 08/09/2024 11:10

Boniwa · 08/09/2024 11:06

I have a stoma and that just made me laugh out loud 🤣

You don't talk for everyone.

That's his name now in my house

Thanks. This is what my phone defaults his name to and it's sort of stuck.

Wouldhavebeenproficient · 08/09/2024 11:10

He knows they could easily be out in the public domain but he's not going to make it any easier. Fair enough.

Hurrayforfridays · 08/09/2024 11:14

As PP have said he's establishing a clear boundary and won't be sharing his children's names so he is keeping them private. He's not saying it's a secret, just that he won't be sharing them. Your issue seems to be that you don't think this is a valid definition of 'private', but it is...

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 08/09/2024 11:15

It's a smart move anyway, he's very publicly said that he's not naming his children. Any of the so-called journalists who do with just look like the arseholes they are.

The children play no part in their father's political life, they're irrelevant, so why shouldn't they be kept distant from it?

Misthios · 08/09/2024 11:15

I think it's different when a baby is born to a serving PM, I remember there was a lot of speculation over what Cherie Blair would call her (4th?) child, and same for Carrie Johnson, and Sam Cam when she gave birth on a family holiday in Cornwall. People are interested in new babies, anyone in the public eye who has a baby some people will be interested. Or magazines/websites like OK wouldn't exist.

I do think there has been a general shift in the last 10-15 years over many privacy issues, not just politicians but many other people choosing not to involve children or show their faces.

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BorisJohnsonsPhysique · 08/09/2024 11:15

saraclara · 08/09/2024 11:09

So did my late husband, and I DO mind, as he would have done. I'm glad you don't, but you don't speak for everyone either.

In general it's perceived as tasteless to use disabilities and medical conditions as insults. And yes, name tweaking is childish humour anyway.

I don’t know. Tony B Liar will never ever stop being hillllarious. 🙄

LynetteScavo · 08/09/2024 11:16

Good for him. Of course we could find out if we wanted to and he k owe that perfectly well. I'm the nosiest person ever, and even I respect his families privacy enough not to bother finding out. His children haven chosen their father's career.

AderynBach · 08/09/2024 11:17

Misthios · 08/09/2024 10:18

Agree, but also a senior lawyer he should be aware that "we keep that private" isn't really accurate.

And the statement was of interest to me as I spend a good part of my working life looking up these sorts of records and ordering copies, and regualrly come across people who are surprised that it is so easy to do that. Also why using your mother's maiden surname as a password or identity key is so stupid.

This thread makes me wonder if you should be in the kind of job that involves looking up people's records. Why on earth are you on here telling everyone how easy it is to find out personal information?

Fluufer · 08/09/2024 11:19

This is a really odd thread OP

Misthios · 08/09/2024 11:20

Fluufer · 08/09/2024 11:19

This is a really odd thread OP

If you say so.... that could probably be said for a good percentage of threads on here, to be fair.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 08/09/2024 11:21

No OP, not everyone is interested in the babies either. It's a certain segment of women who are. I'm not. I don't know of any men who actively wanted to know either?

We don't need to know this information. What I want from our politicians is competent and honest hard work from them. I don't care about their personal lives, up to and including affairs. I want them to do their jobs and that's it.

Thebaguette · 08/09/2024 11:23

Misthios · 08/09/2024 09:40

I wouldn't say I care enough, but it's what I do for a living and know it takes seconds. Especially with a relatively unusual surname. So it's not "we're keeping it private", it's "we're relying on the goodwill of the press not to disclose".

It takes a second? Then you must know their names.

Getmeahobnobstat · 08/09/2024 11:24

cryinglaughing · 08/09/2024 09:41

Of all the things he has done/is doing, this is the least of our worries 😩

Too true.

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