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Keir Starmer "not naming my children"

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Misthios · 08/09/2024 09:35

Respect his stance not to allow pictures of his kids, fair enough, that is the decision he and his wife have made.

But the whole "i'm not publicly naming them" - you'd think as a former lawyer he'd know birth records are public record and anyone can find out in 30 seconds? So not the big secret he thinks it is?

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spicysugar · 08/09/2024 10:10

CelestialNexus · 08/09/2024 09:42

And this affects you how?

This.

So weird to care.

I can't see how not knowing his children's names or what they do in life affects me in any way.

Also people who complain about this non-issue would also say he uses his children for political purposes if he did happen to mention them.

I also remember all the stick the Blair children got. Awful.

CautiousLurker · 08/09/2024 10:10

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SonicTheHodgeheg · 08/09/2024 10:11

Iirc the only time that names have been made public is when babies are born while their dad is PM or once they are adults (I saw something about a start up and Euan Blair)

I bet that it would be easy to find their names online.

Cluborange666 · 08/09/2024 10:11

At least we know how many kids he has…

myrtleWilson · 08/09/2024 10:12

The Sunaks' children were pictured at Downing Street.

LemonyCoughSyrup · 08/09/2024 10:13

Misthios · 08/09/2024 09:59

As I have said before I had never heard that before, so no.

It was more the "we keep that private" which jarred with me, I was thinking well no, you choose not to disclose and that's not the same thing. Many people are shocked just how easy it is to find details of marriage/birth/death with full names, order up certificates should you wish to do so.

Just because it’s easy to do doesn’t mean everyone will go and search for his kids birth certificates. Yours is a bizarre position to take on it. The general consensus is that attempting some privacy for his children is good.

And yes, people are free to research this stuff. But printing their names in the press is very different.

Having some semblance of privacy is the best we can get in the current internet world.

Hallamlass · 08/09/2024 10:13

Misthios · 08/09/2024 10:07

I also think it is fair play that he and his wife are taking a different approach to someone like Blair, who regualrly wheeled out the kids for photo ops. In recent years PMs have been less willing to use kids in this way. Carrie Johnson did post pictures of her kids without their faces visible, I don't remember ever seeing pictures of the Sunak children. This is also probably a security thing, we all know how many crazies there are out there and with the attacks on MPs and threats to them and their families it must be a real worry.

Everyone who is at school with the Starmer children will know exactly who they are.

Of course they do. I think you're missing the point.

CurlewKate · 08/09/2024 10:13

He's making it very clear that if they are named publicly it's not with permission. Which seems to me a very sensible and lawyerish thing to do.

HRTQueen · 08/09/2024 10:14

I can understand why he has done this it’s trying to protect them he knows he can’t not fully prevent their names being found out

His children are being raised Jewish so to some shall be a target, as were Sunaks children targets for disgusting racists

DuncinToffee · 08/09/2024 10:14

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And naming his children would squash these rumours?

Rumours

ClairDeLaLune · 08/09/2024 10:14

BarbaraHoward · 08/09/2024 09:46

We never did for Boris either. Grin

Slightly different circumstances, grant you...

Did Boris even know?

pizzaHeart · 08/09/2024 10:14

Redcrayons · 08/09/2024 09:49

Who would have thought Boris was leading the way 😂

🤣🤣🤣

TheAlchemy · 08/09/2024 10:14

Why does anybody care about his children? There are many threads on this website berating parents who exploit their kids on social media etc for publicity. One of the most public people in the country is drawing a clear boundary that his children are not for public consumption. Is that not a good thing?

tennissquare · 08/09/2024 10:14

I heard on a politics podcast that if he doesn't name them / speak about them it's harder for "friends" / school staff to sell stories to the press about them as there is no appetite for it.

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Hallamlass · 08/09/2024 10:15

LemonyCoughSyrup · 08/09/2024 10:13

Just because it’s easy to do doesn’t mean everyone will go and search for his kids birth certificates. Yours is a bizarre position to take on it. The general consensus is that attempting some privacy for his children is good.

And yes, people are free to research this stuff. But printing their names in the press is very different.

Having some semblance of privacy is the best we can get in the current internet world.

I agree. KS is well aware that it won't make them invisible, and people like the OP will probably do some digging, but mostly they won't be on people's radar.

PandoraSox · 08/09/2024 10:15

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Stop it. Just stop it. Speculating about his kids like this is ghoulish.

ClairDeLaLune · 08/09/2024 10:16

CurlewKate · 08/09/2024 10:13

He's making it very clear that if they are named publicly it's not with permission. Which seems to me a very sensible and lawyerish thing to do.

Yes and it would be a GDPR breach, so the UK press won’t do it. Sensible of him.

Flatulence · 08/09/2024 10:16

I'm glad he's setting a precedent by not using their names when speaking to journalists/the public and asking the press to do the same. Of course he knows that it'd be easy enough to find out if someone really wanted to. But I respect people who choose to keep their children out of the public eye. I wish more people followed suit.

Mamma283828 · 08/09/2024 10:17

Yes you can look the names up but most people won't be bothered so most don't know. As soon as he discloses names he's effectively giving permission for the media to name them (however trivially or inconsequentially) and everyone will know them whether interested or not.

It's another layer of privacy. I think it's very sensible.

Misthios · 08/09/2024 10:18

CurlewKate · 08/09/2024 10:13

He's making it very clear that if they are named publicly it's not with permission. Which seems to me a very sensible and lawyerish thing to do.

Agree, but also a senior lawyer he should be aware that "we keep that private" isn't really accurate.

And the statement was of interest to me as I spend a good part of my working life looking up these sorts of records and ordering copies, and regualrly come across people who are surprised that it is so easy to do that. Also why using your mother's maiden surname as a password or identity key is so stupid.

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pizzaHeart · 08/09/2024 10:18

Am I the only one who is more interested in names and pictures of his pets?

HelpMeGetThrough · 08/09/2024 10:18
  • We never did for Boris either.

Slightly different circumstances, grant you...*

Nor did he.

Hallamlass · 08/09/2024 10:18

@PandoraSox - I agree. It's horrible posting salacious gossip about children.

StuckOnTheCeiling · 08/09/2024 10:18

There’s a difference between private and secret. He’s keeping it private, he knows it’s not secret.

All politicians have human dimensions. Complaining that if his kid is trans he will be influenced by that is like complaining that he’ll be influenced by his wife being Jewish, or complaining that he’ll be influenced by having children at all. Maybe one of his kids is trans, all I know about that is that it is none of our business.